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To ask if a teacher can teach their child at school?

234 replies

Tylila · 27/06/2021 18:54

Do some schools/councils have policies against it?

How are situations handled when the child is involved and the teacher has to look at both sides without favouring?

Are there other considerations to be aware of?

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NoThankYouVeryMuch · 27/06/2021 21:52

Had a girl in my secondary school whose mum was the deputy head and responsible for the really naughty kids.
I did wonder what would have happened if her daughter had been one of the really naughty ones!

Hercisback · 27/06/2021 21:54

My expectations have been shaped by the primary school. I met both 1:1’s there before they worked with DC. I expect the same this time.

The whole environment is different at secondary. The day structure is different. It's the time in a child's life when they transition to more independence. What was appropriate at primary isn't appropriate now. I'd also be seriously thinking about whether mainstream secondary is the best environment for a non verbal child.

korawick12345 · 27/06/2021 21:55

@Tylila

The staff hiring the 1:1 have never met my child. All they have is the paper in front of them to judge if it’s a good fit. They have no personal experience on which to base their decision. I need to feel confident that D.C. is comfortable with the 1:1 before handing over the responsibilities of personal care.
That’s entirely reasonable - so you will need to make arrangements to be available to carry out the personal care for whatever transition period you need in September. The school will only be funded for this staff member when she is on roll so they cannot recruit prior to September as there would be no money to pay the wages
BasicallyBookish · 27/06/2021 21:56

@Tylila I’m disabled, I’ve had intimate care. My current care needs are unusual. And at school I had what you’re calling INA (thats a new term for me). I’m obviously in a very different situation to your DC. But I find that someone just trained tends to be better at meeting my needs than someone who has cared for someone else with the same needs. They come in with preconceived ideas about how to do it based on that and can get it wrong as a result.

Tylila · 27/06/2021 21:57

All relevant parties are satisfied it is and we have a long term plan in place to ensure the best possible chance at success.

The ECHP goals are transferring so the same support is deemed appropriate and will be provided in secondary.

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Tylila · 27/06/2021 21:58

I’m available at all times throughout the school day and school is 5 mins away so I can attend at any time.

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Queenie8 · 27/06/2021 21:58

I didn't meet any of my 121 children prior to being employed, nor the parents.

EHCP is there to show what needs your child has. Just because your primary has gone above and beyond, that isn't typical of most schools.

You may need to evaluate whether this school and mainstream school will be right for your child, this again depends on your child's EHCP.

But, try and work with the new school. Speak to SENCO about your worries and fears, you also have the option of a reduced timetable to allow for transition.

womaninatightspot · 27/06/2021 21:59

The nursery teacher taught her son for 2 years. No issues atall.

Hercisback · 27/06/2021 21:59

The same support is appropriate. But your level of involvement in that support needs to reflect the fact your child is growing up. You won't know all of their teachers either, or even the parents of their friends. Secondary is very very different and being less involved is part of that.

WrongWrhododendron · 27/06/2021 22:01

@Serin

Your post was fine, it's always good to reflect .. but you just came across as kind 👍🏻

Tylila · 27/06/2021 22:01

I’ve had no involvement in the support in primary and didn’t expect to in secondary. However I feel that the current arrangement is not suitable so will be involved until I feel DC is comfortable and then retreat.

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Hercisback · 27/06/2021 22:01

Why don't you suggest your child's current 1:1 applies for the job?

safclass · 27/06/2021 22:02

Theres nothing to stop a teacher teaching their own child, but most schools would be wary about doing so for exactly the reasons you mentioned.
My husband applied for a job at our sons school (yrs ago). He asked about teaching him and the HT said he would try and ensure it didnt happen. His wife taught at a small school with mixed aged classes. She taught their son and it caused probs for them when they got home - mam told me off etc. She felt she was 'over critical ' of him so that people couldnt accuse her of anything.

mag2305 · 27/06/2021 22:02

@Tylila

My expectations have been shaped by the primary school. I met both 1:1’s there before they worked with DC. I expect the same this time.
Totally understand that. Just be a bit pushy with the secondary school if needed over the next few weeks and hopefully they'll support you with what you need.
Hercisback · 27/06/2021 22:03

However I feel that the current arrangement is not suitable so will be involved until I feel DC is comfortable and then retreat.

How is it different? You said that you met the 1:1 at primary, that should be fine in September at secondary. What else do you want?

Tylila · 27/06/2021 22:03

Because she has already been allocated a child for next year who she is spending the day with to meet when my child has a transition at the new school. Quite how without a 1:1 I don’t know…….

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Hercisback · 27/06/2021 22:04

One of the current TAs will step in for the day. Also vv unusual to get a transition with covid. Is it a day for vulnerable children?

Tylila · 27/06/2021 22:05

Because a new 1:1, plus location, teachers and peers is a bit much to handle. In primary, there was a lot more familiar and the old 1:1 on standby. So yes, it’s different.

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Solidaritea · 27/06/2021 22:05

@Tylila

It doesn’t matter what the school do really but DC will not be handed over until both of us have met the 1:1 and personal care will be handed over when I feel confident in 1:1’s abilities.
Reasonable. You need to get in touch with the SENCO and explain this (well, first half... it's school nurse who should feel confident in 1:1s ability, not you - you are not the 1:1s employer). Ask about a phased start in September.
Hercisback · 27/06/2021 22:05

She could resign and get a new job...!

Leaving another dc without the 1:1 they expect but then school could recruit someone else.

You've been really really lucky so far with your experiences.

Tylila · 27/06/2021 22:06

Apparently they’re all going up. And no, I will have to attend as no one else can provide the personal care needed, so one of the TA’s can’t just step in.

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Hercisback · 27/06/2021 22:07

I actually don't think we'd be letting a parent into school to judge whether the 1:1 is ready or not. As a PP said, you aren't the employer.

They may do personal care 2:1 for safeguarding reasons.

ballsdeep · 27/06/2021 22:07

There is no one on this planet that fits their job role better than me and the official training is to be provided.

And this is why you shouldn't go for it

Hercisback · 27/06/2021 22:08

Watch and wait with transition day, most LAs have cancelled them.

Have you been in touch with the new school SENCO?

Tylila · 27/06/2021 22:08

I can see we have been lucky and perhaps I’m being to unreasonable to expect the same standard, but I do expect it and I will explain that to the school and work out a plan that reassures me that DC is comfortable.

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