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To ask if a teacher can teach their child at school?

234 replies

Tylila · 27/06/2021 18:54

Do some schools/councils have policies against it?

How are situations handled when the child is involved and the teacher has to look at both sides without favouring?

Are there other considerations to be aware of?

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Tylila · 27/06/2021 19:45

When they asking for unqualified people to apply, get the job and then perform intimate care on my vulnerable child, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to think ‘actually I’m a fuck lot more qualified than whoever there going to end up hiring’.

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Lougle · 27/06/2021 19:47

@Tylila

I’m not disagreeing with anyone btw, I posted to get thoughts.

There is more to how my thought process went this way that relates to my issues with how the school are handling this situation currently. I haven’t just plucked it out of thin air.

But that makes it even worse. That's the whole point really - you currently have an opinion on how the school are dealing with your child's needs. Now you want to be the one who is paid to meet those needs. How can they manage someone who is related to the child in question. Are you honestly saying you wouldn't be offended if they say 'Actually, we want you to handle this situation in this way....' and that is completely at odds with how you'd manage it at home?
Tylila · 27/06/2021 19:48

Bloody typos.

They’re

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Wolfiefan · 27/06/2021 19:49

If I read that right then you have issues with how the school are handling the personal care at the moment. No way will they give you the job if you won’t act like a professional member of staff but rather like “that” parent with a bloody big grudge.
You also don’t seem to understand the nature of the job. It’s also about building an appropriate relationship within school. You already have a parent child relationship.
Step away from this one OP.

Lougle · 27/06/2021 19:50

"They are specifically looking for someone ( as in its in the job description that no experience is necessary) that doesn’t have the official training as it’s to be provided as it’s speciality training, including management of a medical device which is an unusual one and I would have to go into school and manage in the event of an issue anyway."

That doesn't mean that experience wouldn't be valued. They're just recognising that the training can be given to give the right person the skills to manage your child.

Musmerian · 27/06/2021 19:51

It’s generally avoided at secondary level where there’s a choice of teachers but it can happen in smaller subjects. I’ve had colleagues who have taught their own children although obviously it’s not ideal.

soapboxqueen · 27/06/2021 19:51

Generally speaking, schools don't set out to have parents teaching their own children. It just happens and they do their best to manage it. Some make sure children aren't in the same class or make other adjustments.

Many schools have policies about not even allowing parent volunteers to help in their own child's year (with reading and such) because they have experience of the issues which can arise.

Ranging from informing other parents about a child's behaviour they didn't like, looking through books to see who got the best marks and giving detailed criticism about where the teacher is going wrong.

The latter being foremost in their mind if they are going to employ a parent to support their own child.

Tbh unless a parent was literally the only candidate, I don't know any school that would touch that idea with a barge pole.

Tylila · 27/06/2021 19:52

In all honesty no, I already do things differently at home and things are done differently at school. It’s all in the EHCP and it’s all agreed by me. Of course it wouldn’t bother me if things were handled differently at school.

I get your point, but my only issues with the school relate to how they are approaching hiring the 1:1. My child won’t have even met them before their first day in a new school, nothing familiar at all, and my child will need intimate care from the start.

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Lougle · 27/06/2021 19:52

Honestly, having recruited a lot of SN assistants at a special school, attitude is 99% of what makes a good LSA. Experience can be gained as you go, but attitude towards the children and their needs can't be.

Musmerian · 27/06/2021 19:54

@Babymeanswashing - we get a 50% fee reduction so our children attended the school their father taught at. It was generally fine although as he’s deputy head of 6th form and exclusively a 6th form teacher that was sometimes a bit tricky. Swings and roundabouts as the state alternative was not great.

Rosebel · 27/06/2021 19:56

There's nothing to stop you applying but I don't think the school will allow it.
At my DDs primary school they moved teachers out of the year their child would be in (although they used to move the teachers around quite a bit anyway).
I can only remember one child at secondary school having a parent who taught there. He taught his daughter in Y7 and Y8 but don't remember there ever being a problem with it.

Babynames2 · 27/06/2021 19:57

That really wouldn’t be appropriate OP and I’m sure the school would find it inappropriate and odd of you to apply. For a start, you’d be being paid to look after your own child. And it could lead to a conflict between you and the class teacher, you say you’re okay with and have agreed that things are done differently there but it could be very different when you are there. Plus your child needs some time to be independent of you.

If your only issue is in the way they are hiring the staff member then talk to them about it, but this won’t be the first time the school have been in the position of needing to hire for this type of role, they will have experience in this and be following policy for recruitment of that type of role.

Tylila · 27/06/2021 19:57

I take on board everyone’s comments and obviously I’m looking at this the wrong way, but I will be taking this up with the school and hopefully they will work out a way to support my child better.

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MarjorieBouvier · 27/06/2021 20:00

Would you be able to follow the class teacher's instructions? Or would you argue that you know best as she's your dd?

That would be my concern.

Tylila · 27/06/2021 20:00

I should also point out that the school have not had a child with these needs attend hence the specific training required and why they are offering it rather than expecting candidates with it already.

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ancientgran · 27/06/2021 20:01

A relative of mine taught their child, it lasted about a term and she was so fed up of parents complaining about favoratism when she reckoned she was harder on her own child than any of the others. She said it was impossible to keep victimising her own child and still getting all the grief so she was swapped with another teacher. It was a small school and initially they said it was impossible to move her to another year but eventually it was obvious it wasn't going to work.

Tylila · 27/06/2021 20:04

My child’s current school can vouch for the fact that I have no issue deferring to those more qualified than me in matters relating to school. I have always kept home and school incredibly separate. I know perfectly well that’s easy to say in theory but I honestly don’t anticipate any ‘butting of heads’ as we have all had a plan in place for what we are aiming for for years. School and I have always been united and I’ve had any conflict around their judgement.

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Hankunamatata · 27/06/2021 20:04

What is your issue with the hiring process? The job advert? How its worded? Who they choose?

If they are only advertising now it could take a while to select a candidate, then there's the advanced checks. So person may not be in place until childs starts school.

IF they get someone earlier you could request they do a photo and some into writing about who they are. You could go in on the first week and help with intimate care process to ease the transition

Tylila · 27/06/2021 20:04

I’ve NEVER had.

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Hankunamatata · 27/06/2021 20:05

Could you request they put it in desirable criteria? Help with the training.

Tylila · 27/06/2021 20:09

@Hankunamatata

My issue very much is the lack of preparation and the fact they put in bold within the job description ‘no experience necessary’. The current 1:1 has a degree, but still was given the specific training.

They’ve left no time for transitioning and building up any relationship.

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Crazysheep · 27/06/2021 20:09

They are allowed in my school OP. I'm not a teacher but regularly work in my DC class. In fact I'm off on a trip with them tomorrow (DC requests that she is not in my group and this is normally honoured).

Tylila · 27/06/2021 20:11

All they have asked for in terms of qualifications are a level 2 in literacy or numeracy or a willingness to do a functional skills qualification in the probation period.

No mention of experience in Makaton or any of the resources used to access education in school.

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Crazysheep · 27/06/2021 20:11

Scrap that. Read the whole thread. Highly inappropriate OP.

Hankunamatata · 27/06/2021 20:12

My friend has a child who needs intimate care (catheristisation). She chose to go in on a lunch time herself rather than 1:1 do it as she said she felt more comfortable doing that. Then dc 1:1 looked after rest of his needs. She was lucky though and could wfh

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