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To not understand the big deal about asking for money as a gift

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ChickenLittle27 · 25/06/2021 22:26

Firstly, I will just say that I don’t expect anything, whether that be money or gifts from anyone, however if people do ask me what I’d like for my birthday or Christmas I normally just say surprise me (who doesn’t love a surprise). This time it’s a bit different.

I’m currently in the process of applying for a mortgage and there is a strong chance I’ll be excepted. If that’s the case I will be putting an offer on a property within the next few weeks. I’m going at this alone so will be using all of my savings. It just so happens that my birthday is on Monday and again all family/friends have asked what I’d like. I’ve said money as it would be a huge help at this current time. Once I’ve spent all my savings on a deposit things will be slightly tight for a while so the extra money would massively help. My mums cousin has asked her what I’d like and I’ve gone back and said I really don’t expect anything, but if she insists then money would be great.

Mum has come back and said that it’s cheeky to ask people for money so she’s told her to buy me an Amazon voucher which I can sell later on. Obviously I am grateful for anything that I receive, but the more I think about it I really don’t see what the issue is about asking for money. IMO it’s exactly the same as asking for a voucher. I really don’t want or need anything from Amazon so it now means I have to go to the effort of selling it to someone (probably at a discounted price), as who would pay full whack for a voucher when they can just buy one from the shop for the same price.

I’ve never had an issue when people have asked for cash for their birthdays or Christmas as I appreciate most people want to choose things themselves or maybe use it towards something important, which in my case I think this is. I’m more than happy to be told I’m being unreasonable but I honestly can’t see what the big deal is or why it’s considered “cheeky”…..

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SchrodingersImmigrant · 26/06/2021 10:04

@Longestfewdaysupcoming

Yes I would. Because they would have taken the kettle with them. The house was rented and they moved out in about a year and I felt like the £200 I gave them was quite literally pissed up the walls.
It wasn't. It made them happy for a year.

Odd to spend taht on rented though

SchrodingersImmigrant · 26/06/2021 10:05

This brings me back to my point on the ither yhread though.

It's about control...

Longestfewdaysupcoming · 26/06/2021 10:05

Well it was from my point of view and I was hurt and upset - the money was a fortune to me and it felt really disrespectful.

I didn’t understand it either but that’s what they did. They bought after that so I don’t know why they didn’t keep my money for stuff for their house they bought but they didn’t.

Longestfewdaysupcoming · 26/06/2021 10:07

Not control.

Disrespect of me and the work and effort I put in to earn that money and they literally passed it up the walls. It felt so so disrespectful.

My relationship with them died very quickly after that as it was a pattern of behaviour and I grew a set and decided not to be the patsy any more.

NoSquirrels · 26/06/2021 10:07

@BarbaraofSeville

I don’t want to give cash I want to give pleasure. And you sticking it in savings doesn’t work for my end of the gift-giving equation

But giving a 'thing' often doesn't bring pleasure to the recipient, it brings them:

guilt that they don't like the thing or for the waste of money or resources

irritation that it's cluttering up their house or that they have to use/look at something that's not of their choosing

a chore - they have to donate or sell it

In a minority of cases you might actually give them something that they genuinely like, but that's probably only in a minority of cases and no-one knows anyway because obviously most people pretend to like the thing out of politeness.

You misunderstand me. I’m saying “I don’t want to give cash I want to give pleasure” doesn’t mean I’ll never give cash. I will, if I think it will bring pleasure - a contribution to a show they want to see, a holiday they’re saving up for, a thing they want to buy in future.

But in the OP’s example:
I’ve gone back and said I really don’t expect anything, but if she insists then money would be great.
The messaging is wrong. It’s just “I’ll accept money if you insist.” Without a purpose for that money to be spent on something specific.

It’s not wrong to give cash. And I wouldn’t give a ‘thing’ over cash just to be bloody-minded. But there are ways that the ‘cash, please’ response to a gift ideas request can be worded so that the gift-giving experience doesn’t feel soulless, and just like a transaction.

FizzyPink · 26/06/2021 10:09

I think it’s bad taste to ask for money. Surely you could think of something you’ll need for your new house that you could ask for instead? Or ask everyone for John Lewis vouchers so you can choose something once you’re settled?

We had an evening only wedding invite recently that came with the standard poem asking for a donation to their honeymoon. I was expecting things you could actually pay for that the couple wanted to do while on honeymoon. Maybe turtle watching - £50 etc. But no, it was just a link to make a contribution to their honeymoon which I think is incredibly crass. Especially when we’re not important enough to have a whole day invite!

Longestfewdaysupcoming · 26/06/2021 10:14

I wasn’t even invited to the wedding!! 😂😂😂

And I ran around like a sap picking guests up from airports and taking them to hotels

Fool me once and all that.

TheKeatingFive · 26/06/2021 10:19

Why on earth would you be upset about them spending it on paint? It’s practical, sensible, brings them happiness.

I can only put that down to a bizarre obsession with ‘stuff’ that most these days have moved on from.

Longestfewdaysupcoming · 26/06/2021 10:25

Because bad manners. 🤷🏼‍♀️ In my opinion.

It was a rented house. They moved. So they literally might as well have sat and burned the money.

It is disrespectful. In my opinion.

TheKeatingFive · 26/06/2021 10:30

You sounds both old fashioned and hard work.

BarbaraofSeville · 26/06/2021 10:31

If they'd have spent it on a cheap washing machine that broke after a year would you have been happy with that or not?

What's the difference?

Geniuinely trying to understand a point of view that makes no sense whatsoever to me. Putting conditions on the gift takes away the 'gift' aspect even though it really doesn't affect you what they do with it.

Longestfewdaysupcoming · 26/06/2021 10:32

Well I think it’s cheeky to start with to ask someone for a wedding present and give them a printed piece of paper with a shitty rhyme on it when they’re not invited to the wedding.

And it’s cheeky to ask someone to drop off and pick up people from the train and the airport and drop them to your wedding when you’ve not invited them to the wedding.

PurpleishDahlia · 26/06/2021 10:35

I come from a culture where money is always given instead of gifts. I was given money for birthdays and for Christmas growing up. People always give money to newlyweds, the couple doesn't have to specify - it goes without saying that's what a new couple needs.
I recently got married myself and we got lots of glasses, picture frames and yankee candles from my husband's side, vs nearly 5000 from my side which we used to put velux windows in the loft and buy a tumble dryer and some insulation. I think that when you're in a phase in your life where you need the support, it makes sense for your loved ones to support you in this way, without you having to ask.

However, if it's a normal birthday, or a token Christmas gift, and you're not going through anything life changing, it's so much more personal to pick something and offer it. On my last birthday, I received something so sweet from my mother in law, that even though ultimately it's useless tat it put a smile on my face.

In your case OP I find it very justified to ask for money.
But as a previous poster said, you don't want to just pass cash back and forth forever.
There was a line from Family Guy that made me chuckle: 'let's all sit around the Christmas tree and write each other cheques' :p

SchrodingersImmigrant · 26/06/2021 10:37

@Longestfewdaysupcoming

I wasn’t even invited to the wedding!! 😂😂😂

And I ran around like a sap picking guests up from airports and taking them to hotels

Fool me once and all that.

Yeah. I don't think the money as a gift was the actual issue in taht situation
BarbaraofSeville · 26/06/2021 10:37

Well that is cheeky, but I don't understand why you gave them money, and quite a large amount of it when you weren't invited to the wedding or did all the running around like that. I don't think I'd even buy a gift for someone who I obviously don't have that close a relationship with.

Still doesn't detract from the point that it's not worth getting annoyed about what they actually do with the money after you've given it to them, that's a completely separate point.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 26/06/2021 10:40

Anyhooooo.

Back to Op's situation which isn't a wedding.

In OP's situation when she plans on buying, money/vouchers as a gift are absolutely perfect. She will be moving, she will need lots of stuff including paint, for what I care if I was a gifter she could buy insurance with my gift. It's very practical, unless there is something non money/voucher the OP would like.

Longestfewdaysupcoming · 26/06/2021 10:47

I thought the person was my best friend. I was wrong.

TheKeatingFive · 26/06/2021 10:49

Well not being invited to the wedding would have been a big clue, no?

And yes, the paint thing is the least of your issues here.

Longestfewdaysupcoming · 26/06/2021 10:53

Well I was supposed to be invited but was asked to give up my place a week before the wedding so someone else could attend. At that point I’d already given them the money.

TheKeatingFive · 26/06/2021 10:56

That’s appalling behaviour on their part.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 26/06/2021 10:58

I am going to be harsh, but that's the most epic drip feed on some else's thread, I've seen.

And yes. It was them being dicks, it's nkt an issue if whether money are ok gift.

Longestfewdaysupcoming · 26/06/2021 11:06

Well I’m sorry you feel it was a drip feed but it’s the reason I don’t give cash as a gift any longer.

TheKeatingFive · 26/06/2021 11:10

You’re focusing on the wrong thing here. These people treated you appallingly, but spending the money on paint wasn’t the issue.

MilduraS · 26/06/2021 11:24

I had a Ex who hated when people wanted money for a gift. He always saw gifts as an excuse to treat someone to something they wanted but wouldn't buy for themselves. Whereas with money they'd go and spend it on something mundane that they would have bought anyway. He was a high earner so the concept of needing money didn't factor into it. To give him his dues, his gifts were always brilliant. I scrimped and saved to go on a safari tour by myself one year. When I got there I found out he'd paid for the add-on option of a hot air balloon ride over the Serengeti for an early birthday present. Still makes me smile 10 years later and yes, I did go and buy myself the hair straighteners I'd originally suggested.

massiveportion · 26/06/2021 11:29

How is giving vouchers better than just giving cash when it's pretty much the same thing?

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