Theresa May

[jgw1]

Am I being unreasonable to think that the reason Theresa May had to be got rid of as PM was because she was not prepared to give juicy backhanders to the right people?

Wouldn’t surprise me

Me neither

Makes you wonder...

Maybe
I honestly think they didn't want a woman in charge either
I can't see why but I get a sense that was an issue

I think it was several reasons, not least Johnson wanted the power. I think she lacked conviction over Brexit - historically a remainer and probably didn’t feel as comfortable lying consistently as the current lot.

She is also gauche and not innately charismatic.

I dislike her beliefs and policies, but I do believe that she was sincere in them and entered politics to serve. She is dutiful.

@Ostara212

Maybe I honestly think they didn't want a woman in charge either I can't see why but I get a sense that was an issue

Undoubtedly that she was a woman was an issue.

Teresa May resigned because of the repeated failures to get a Brexit deal through Parliament, plus growing public disapproval after Grenfell and Windrush. Good riddance.

I thought she was the fall guy, the sacrificial lamb for when Brexit goes sour, all along. Her job was to botch the negotiations because they were impossible to do well. Then BJ figured Brexit could still be milked for political points and went for it.

At the time she was the worst PM the UK had ever had. What was shocking was how long the Tories let her limp on.

Tbh anyone who took the job after Cameron jumped shipped was screwed. TM was never going to have the support for that reason alone. She wasn’t the worst but was not perfect or ideal either. Think the fact that was a woman annoyed the others and she wasn’t that bad, if she’d have been given a decent chance she might have been ok, but she had no support.

Theresa May was prepared to sack cabinet members who breached the ministerial code, include someone who had been a political ally and friend for many years.

@jgw1 I don't think Mr Johnson would have behaved towards a male Prime Minister in the way he sought to undermine Mrs May.

Depressing thing is that an intelligent person of integrity like May has no hope of succeeding as PM in UK because she is honest enough to refuse to offer easy solutions to complex problems. The same applies to Keir Starmer. Sadly voters seem to prefer three second, upbeat sound bites to an honest analysis of the issues we face.

So the fact she ran the worst election campaign in living memory and destroyed her own working majority by going to the country at the wrong time played no part in it?

You've been watching too many political thrillers OP.

She did make her own mistakes, but she was also utterly stabbed in the back and undermined by Johnson etc.

She came forward at a time when power was a poisoned chalice for anyone, rather naively I guess.

@Ostara212

Maybe I honestly think they didn't want a woman in charge either I can't see why but I get a sense that was an issue

Also, she couldn't dance for shit

FFS backhanders had nothing to do with it. She was useless because she was a Remainer and completely the wrong person to manage our withdrawal from the EU.

@FaceyRomford

So the fact she ran the worst election campaign in living memory and destroyed her own working majority by going to the country at the wrong time played no part in it?

You've been watching too many political thrillers OP.

Yes this.

She simply wasn't good enough.

She had one shining moment though. The sacking of George Osborne. That alone was perhaps worth her becoming PM.

They got rid of her because she was off the scale fucking useless. She made a chocolate teapot look effective.

She might have been off the old scale, but there's a new scale of political uselessness now and she would barely even register on it. Her job was impossible. She shouldn't have taken it, but it was impossible.

@donquixotedelamancha

At the time she was the worst PM the UK had ever had. What was shocking was how long the Tories let her limp on.

And now we have Boris who is most definitely the worst PM the UK has ever had and I am shocked on a daily basis how he is still there.

@Bloomsbury45

Depressing thing is that an intelligent person of integrity like May has no hope of succeeding as PM in UK because she is honest enough to refuse to offer easy solutions to complex problems. The same applies to Keir Starmer. Sadly voters seem to prefer three second, upbeat sound bites to an honest analysis of the issues we face.

Sadly I think this is so true.

I could never understand why she was talking about bringing back fox hunting in the manifesto that she really really needed a big majority to get anything done. Who on earth ever thought that would be a vote winner.

I don't think she was very good re: Brexit negotiations. However she is obviously a very decent person, unlike Boris, Hancock, Cummings etc.

And now we have Boris who is most definitely the worst PM the UK has ever had and I am shocked on a daily basis how he is still there.

Indeed, hence my past tense. I'd have bet money he couldn't have been as bad as her, bit I'd have been wrong.

Still, I'm not surprised he's not gone for three of reasons:

1. His cronyism and venality are not nearly as anathema to the Tories as weakness and inability to negotiate.
2. Brexit and then the pandemic have provided cover for his worst errors (even though the actual harm done is magnified).
3. The Labour party is in a worse state than even the early Corbyn years. They can't score against open goals.