Is this really news? Only Fans

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-57491149

On the BBC top read section. Should we really be encouraging this level of vacuousness and as a viable employment route - selling your body online for bored Middle Aged men? Appalled if I’m honest that the BBC seem to be promoting this.

that's really weird that their faces weren't flagged during the take your own picture part.
Of course could have been the grandparents account and the kids got on that way which makes more sense tbh.

@MolyHolyGuacamole

And it sends the message to easily influenced teenage girls, already under an insane amount of pressure to be 'perfect' for men, that this is ok as am employment choice.

If they are earning a living and can pay their bills, then it is ok as an employment choice. Reliable and long-lasting? Maybe not. But better than an MLM

Do you really think sex work is something that a teenage girl should be encouraged to do?

@Febo24 You’re assuming they will have kids or anyone will be able to identify them.

Surely making sex work taboo and wrong just feeds into the fetishization of young girls who do anything considered 'sexy'

Only Fans is apparently looking for new investors and plans to move away from adult content on its site regardless

@NekoShiro ^^ this

Let’s not forget that the internet started off as a tool to communicate and only took off when people started putting naked people on there.
Instagram was originally designed for average Joe to take photographs of their life, alter it with filters and share. Now it seems to predominantly being women jiggling their bits.
Only fans might be looking for investors but similarly it isn’t solely sex workers on there.

Selling images of cooking in your underwear is one thing.. but that is not what this site is largely aimed at.
The sheer pressure to get more followers, keep those followers and comply with their requests of what you should do is huge.
Girls go further and further to keep and gain followers to earn money. Doing more and more deprived things. It’s goes from empowering to absolute segregation, pressure and coercion.
Many girls are really too young on there to properly realise and also have the confidence to get out.
Awful slippery slope into things that you just don’t want to do but feel forced.
Many teenage girls are thinking this is an easy way to make money and get caught in the harder core photos and requests.
It’s an awful site

@ihatethefuckingmuffin

that's really weird that their faces weren't flagged during the take your own picture part. Of course could have been the grandparents account and the kids got on that way which makes more sense tbh.

No I think a 14 year old made an account for herself using her grandmother's passport. And the journalist who wrote the article made a fake account using someone else's Id. Some children using older siblings' Id as well.

@Fangsalot89 there is actually a line, would you not consider someone working for less than the minimum wage to be exploited?

If someone offered you 10p or 10 billion pounds to get naked on a camera there is no difference?

What a ridiculous argument…

These are predominantly young girls with no hope of making any considerable money, touching themselves for men in the hopes of making ends meet and you’re trying to make out this situation is empowering? Have a word with yourself.

[quote iBrows]@Fangsalot89 there is actually a line, would you not consider someone working for less than the minimum wage to be exploited?

If someone offered you 10p or 10 billion pounds to get naked on a camera there is no difference?

What a ridiculous argument…

These are predominantly young girls with no hope of making any considerable money, touching themselves for men in the hopes of making ends meet and you’re trying to make out this situation is empowering? Have a word with yourself.[/quote]
My DP is an artist and most of the time makes nothing of it.

He's definitely not exploited, that's on him not getting a better paying job. Not everything is exploitation and most people don't rely on OF to feed their kids- they have a day job unless it's really taken off

I have mentioned 2 local girls on here before the local rags to riches in other younger girls eyes.
They travel with their fancy handbags with their new reconstructed faces putting pics on SM.
I knew one of them as a DC it's disturbing thinking about their trips.
It's online until someone offers €10,000 for a home visit and they find themselves at a porta potty party or a weekend sex slave.

@iBrows The assumption that these people are only making money from this is astounding. If a woman chooses to supplement her income however little it may be via a site like OF then that’s on her. If she’s desperate enough to make top dollar and gets more and more on show, then again, that’s on her.
Not everything to do with the sex trade makes a woman a victim and to insinuate that is doing women a complete disservice.
Loosen the Pearl clutching for goodness sake.

@Fangsalot89 “only making money” - what else are they gaining?

Do you think teenage girls like dressing up and talking dirty to random old perverts online? Is there job satisfaction in making a strange man on the other side of a screen cum??

They are just desperate for the money, and normally won’t make much at all. It is sad that employment prospects are so bleak that this seems the only option for some.

Sex work does exploit women, but clearly many have been brainwashed into believing it is a positive life choice they’ve made and that is why I find this so sad.

It is hard to undo the damage but if we don’t acknowledge it, more and more women will suffer and we will always be seen as commodities.

[quote Fangsalot89]@ScreamingMeMe I mean women like porn, sure, I’m just almost certain it’s not consumed in the same quantities as it is by men because we aren’t inherently built that way.
Also, if you do take into account the treatment of women throughout history from men plus the seedy culture the sex industry is made out to have through and through, it isn’t a wonder most women swerve it inherently.[/quote]
Women don't consume porn at the same rate as men because "we aren't inherently built that way"?

Can you explain?

@BraxtonChic Theres been many studies carried out to confirm that men are inherently turned on by visual stimuli.
Women on the other hand often need a deeper connection but even if that’s not the case, it’s the other senses that come into play.
Porn predominantly plays up to one sense hence why men consume more porn than women on a whole.

I couldnt believe that article! It reads like the OnlyFans PR team wrote it for the BBC. Why does a public service publicly-funded broadcaster want to glowingly promote a commercial private company’s website that not that long ago the BBC news were reporting on for CHILDREN having sexually explicit accounts available for payment- ie child sexual abuse images?

www.bbc.com/news/uk-57255983
BBC News: The children selling explicit videos on OnlyFans

It’s totally inappropriate for the BBC to keep plugging this way of making precarious, stigmatised and increasingly pressured money (do they think the paying ‘fans’ don’t ask for more and more each time? And that the payments ‘fans’ are willing to send won’t drop as soon as the market is flooded, and expectations are desensitised, leaving women less and less in control of what they can do to make any money from putting permanently available and identifiable images of themselves out on the internet?).

How is it OK for the BBC to send out such a ludicrous sanitised version of what this kind of imagery can do to people’s lives whether child or adult? What does the BBC actually have to gain here?

Please please please complain to the BBC: this isn’t news and it isn’t objective or impartial. It’s sexist and irresponsible AF to promote online harms and to encourage girls and women everywhere to be denigrated as sexual objects existing only for for male sexual consumption.

The BBC don’t look ‘in touch’ or ‘non-judgemental’ whatever utter shite they think- it actually makes them look massively elitist and complacent, because sure as fuck becoming a paid seller of permanent, increasingly explicit and degrading images isn’t an issue that any of them will ever have to consider..

Also- please ask for some BBC news investigations to be done on the actual damage of this ‘work’ and difficulties of exiting this ‘work’. as a means of redressing the objective news balance of what they have already been promoting.

www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint/#/Complaint

It bothers people because it promotes the objectification and commodification of women’s bodies. It magnifies the impression in society that women are primarily for men to look at and act upon rather than, in fact, being thinking and feeling human beings who deserve respect and to be valued in their own right.
“My body, my choice” doesn’t exist in a vacuum, it exists as a “choice” in a quite deeply misogynistic society.

Yes yes yes. And a number of the comments on this thread smack of “any choice a woman makes is a feminist choice” when we know that to be palpably untrue.

It bothers people because it promotes the objectification and commodification of women’s bodies.

Women in general "stop sexualising women"

Women on Only Fans "9.99 a month to see suggestive pictures of my scantily-clad body"