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To wonder if this Zara model is a healthy size?

400 replies

MondayYogurt · 20/06/2021 21:34

Most models are tall and slim but something just made me stop and look at these pictures for longer, wondering.

Is it just photoshop?

To wonder if this Zara model is a healthy size?
To wonder if this Zara model is a healthy size?
OP posts:
DaisyDreaming · 21/06/2021 00:08

@callmeadoctor yes, sadly she’s clearly going to die and sick people pay her to do things on camera like struggle to move something heavy. Even worse she lives with her mum who are best enables her ED at worst encourages it.

Acousticroyal · 21/06/2021 00:10

I think she looks great.

Stop skinny shaming her you nasty lot.

Changechangychange · 21/06/2021 00:23

I don't look like the models as I'm more muscular

That is kind of beside the point though? If you had so little muscle or fat on your arms that your biceps were thinner than your wrists, you would be very ill. Your arms don’t look anything like that model’s arms, presumably because you are healthy (as I have said, I don’t think the model looks like that in real life, and am making no comment on her real-life health).

Posters have said that they themselves are far skinnier than the model, as she appears in that photo, and that being ‘much thinner’ than that photo is perfectly normal and not too thin at all. It is that people are disputing. Nobody is disputing that some people have slim arms.

Beannag · 21/06/2021 00:24

I'm not sure why people keep saying that fat shaming is seen as bad when it's extremely prevalent, both in 'real life' and in the media/entertainment. Of course any sort of shaming is actually bad, but its odd how people seem to suggest one doesn't exist as people always shut it down when that's not the case.

She might be naturally that slim, but doubt it. Yes it's a terrible image to be projecting to young girls, and anyone complicit in the photoshopping and peddling images like this should be ashamed. Yes some people are naturally extremely slim, but you can usually tell as they don't have veins protruding. Eugene cooney is so sad, genuinely don't know how she is still here, she is so poorly. The trouble is that her illness feeds off of comments of concern and saying how thin she is, and her mum seems to facilitate it rather than help her. For her own good and the good of young people she should be deplatformed, and yes I'd say that about someone who was extremely obese to the point they were likely to die imminently, as she sadly probably is.

Beannag · 21/06/2021 00:28

The super slim models are not there to sell clothes just for other women who are also super slim. It’s meant to be aspirational

Yes and that's the issue. For the vast majority of people it is unobtainable, therefore for it to be the standard aspirational image is quite worrying. Also interested in how many posters are actually that thin, its weird how the ratio of how many you see in real life vs how many people claim to be on threads like this is always really off.

WhoDidAndWhy · 21/06/2021 00:30

@stairway

It does seem irresponsible of Zara to either photoshop or use models this thin. While they might be healthy like that many young girls wouldn’t.
This.
ViciousJackdaw · 21/06/2021 00:57

Perhaps she's the shape she is due to genetics?
Maybe she has an illness, or takes medication that prevents her from being able to change her shape?

After all, that's why so many people on here are obese, isn't it?

In any case, it's absolutely fucking disgusting to pick at this woman's body. Or at any person's body.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 21/06/2021 01:02

@Acousticroyal

I think she looks great.

Stop skinny shaming her you nasty lot.

Of for god sake 🙄
ThumbWitchesAbroad · 21/06/2021 01:24

I've just looked at that Eugenia's youtube channel, her swimwear
vid.
Even the comments underneath are asking her, and youtube, to please stop - promotion of this level of thinness is harmful to impressionable teens, mostly (but not all) girls.

I think the ad in the OP is photoshopped but I agree in principle that photoshopping to this extent is something that should be stopped. Yes, there are some people who are naturally this thin and healthy and good for them! but it is not the norm, and to try and push this as the epitome of healthy, when for many it isn't, is harmful.

PawsQueen · 21/06/2021 01:25

Eugenia had treatment for an ED I think it was 2019 and looked a lot more healthy. There's been various rumours for years about her mum being controlling/taking her out of ED treatment early etc etc
I don't know obviously actually what's going on but she is basically slowly dying in front of the camera

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 21/06/2021 01:32

[.0]] - I guess this explains it better than I could!

SallySycamore · 21/06/2021 01:37

Eugenia looks like she'd snap in half if you were to give her a hug. Sad

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 21/06/2021 01:40

@LunaNorth

What’s ‘thinspo’?
"thinspo" is short for "thinspiration" apparently - thinspiration /θɪnspɪˈreɪʃ(ə)n/ noun (especially in the context of anorexia nervosa) used in reference to something or someone that serves as motivation for a person seeking to maintain a very low body weight. "these photos are providing dangerous thinspiration to young women (and men)"
Pinuporc · 21/06/2021 07:33

Also interested in how many posters are actually that thin, its weird how the ratio of how many you see in real life vs how many people claim to be on threads like this is always really off.

Yes I would think probably less than 5% of the female population naturally have this physique (possibly more like 1%) when healthy, but reading this thread youd think it was more like 30% of women looked like this. A good friend of mine had a bmi of 17 until she was in her 30s. She would be shorter than these models, she is very small framed, and naturally very lean but her thighs werent the same size as her ankles!

The same happened on a thread about how a disproportionate number of celebrities were extremely thin, maybe unhealthily so. Every other poster popped up saying they were super healthy, exercised, lifted weights, ate healthily etc etc and were naturally size 4 or 6.

SofiaMichelle · 21/06/2021 07:40

@Namechangeme1

But would you agree that when models this thin are used, it promotes this level of thinness as aspirational?

Isn't that the same as using plus size models though - it promotes being overweight as ok and aspirational when it isn't

I completely agree.

The 'plus size' Confused model trend needs to be reined back.

I was on the Lounge Underwear website yesterday and was shocked at some of what I saw.

Juststopasking · 21/06/2021 07:40

We are just used to seeing people getting fatter. Why when companies use fat models they are applauded for showing "normal" or "real" people but when they show the other end of a "normal" spectrum people are up in arms? I say that as a very fat person myself. It seems it's ok to body shame thin people but not fat ones.

sbhydrogen · 21/06/2021 07:40

What a boring thread.

ODFOx · 21/06/2021 07:45

She is a tall slim woman who has been over-photoshopped.
Her thigh gets narrower at the point it should be widening into her buttock. Her arms look as long as her legs in the car. The whole edit is odd.

PomegranateQueen · 21/06/2021 07:58

God imagine how this thread would have gone had the OP lifted a picture of a size 24+ model. Body positivity only seems to apply if you are obese. It's rare to have this model's body type, but women like this do exist and have feelings the same as everyone else.

Given that obesity related illness is one of the main causes of death in the UK, maybe we should shift our focus?

InpatientGardener · 21/06/2021 07:59

@juststopasking I entirely agree with you. As a naturally very slim person I have been picked on by other women since my teenage years, accused of being bulimic, anorexic, had my lunch at work scrutinised, told men don't find women with my physique attractive etc. Thank you for highlighting this.

SallyCinnabon · 21/06/2021 08:02

Ok, I used to be this size naturally until I was about …17/18? I had many a teacher, family member and stranger tell me I was too thin/ too skinny and ask about my eating (I ate plenty thank you) it was horrid and made me develop an eating disorder of sorts as I started secretly eating to try and put on weight, then felt guilty and starved myself by missing meals. Harder to do when living at home but then I went to Uni and it was easy. What happened is that I screwed my metabolism and went from a size 6 to a size 16 (and then was told I was too fat).

I’m in my late 30s now and a size 12 but can put weight in by looking at good because I’ve messed up my metabolism.

I guess I’m telling you this because I guess I found some of the comments here triggering, but also to say skinny people can be naturally skinny (I had that same honey wrist that has been commented on) and the words people say can have a devastating effect on people (especially younger girls/women).

Maybe that model is naturally skinny, maybe she isn’t but just remember you don’t know people’s stories and what you say can change people’s lives.

SallyCinnabon · 21/06/2021 08:03

Boney wrist*

User1110 · 21/06/2021 08:03

Nobody needs a to comment on another women’s weight. It is literally none of anyone’s business.

Lulalu · 21/06/2021 08:04

Why has someone posted a picture of their (very normal and not remotely photoshopped) arm? Grin

whatthejiggeries · 21/06/2021 08:05

I have legs like that I just can't put weight on them