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AIBU to think Cressida Dick will be expected to shoulder the blame for 37 year cover up?

52 replies

longwayoff · 16/06/2021 09:04

Daniel Morgan was murdered 37 years ago. Various cover ups over the years involving the Met and the Murdoch press have ensured that nobody has been found guilty of the murder and everything is now so murky that a fair trial couldn't be held. Successive Commissioners have held sway throughout these years. Now the report on this has been issued, and the extent of Met police corruption made public, I won't be surprised to find a woman, Dame Cressida, being blamed for the whole messy caboodle. Will she be forced to resign?

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DrManhattan · 16/06/2021 09:08

Being a woman has nothing to do with it.
What has happened is disgusting and responsibility needs to be taken

DysmalRadius · 16/06/2021 09:10

That case is the biggest mess and there are so many people involved that I suspect it will end up being buried again, for all the same reasons as before. The murdoch empire will never admit culpability and didn't it end up linking to officers that were involved in the Stephen Lawrence investigation? I don't think the real truth will out until everyone involved is long gone, possibly not even then...

BrightYellowDaffodil · 16/06/2021 09:13

I agree with @DrManhattan - Cressida Dick isn’t being blamed because she’s a woman, she’s being blamed because she’s in the top job and the buck stops with her. And, AFAIK, she was in a position of authority at least throughout the investigations (including the Met dragging their heels on allowing the investigators to access police information).

Will she have to resign? Possibly. But then I think she should have gone over the heavy handed policing of the Sarah Everard vigil and the subsequent closing-of-ranks.

BronwenFrideswide · 16/06/2021 09:27

Cressida Dick initially blocked the enquiry panel from having access to the HOLMES system which was necessary for them to properly investigate, delayed the release of files the last of which was only released in March this year. The panel had been expected to report within 12 months instead it took over eight years at a cost of £16 million, the delay largely due to the wrangles over releasing files and evidence caused by Cressida Dick's intransigence.

Cressida Dick should go not only for blocking the enquiry's attempts to investigate but also for the increase in costs to the tax payer her stance caused.

Unfortunately, Cressida Dick seems to be coated in Teflon or knows where the bodies are buried - the amount of fuck-ups she has made in her career and yet still she has been promoted.

Bluntness100 · 16/06/2021 09:29

She’s a tough old boot, she will just tell everyone to fuck off and stay put till she’s decided she’s had enough. She’s endured many calls to resign and seems to give not one fuck.

C130 · 16/06/2021 09:33

She also seems incapable of admitting that there is a problem with institutional racism within the police force. She should go.

jasjas1973 · 16/06/2021 09:43

An innocent man was murdered, the Police were likely to have been involved & the independent inquiry set up to try and find out what happened was blocked by Dick.

More importantly the panel found the Met is corrupt.

How can she stay?

PineappleWilson · 16/06/2021 09:46

She has been blamed for the stalling that happened in the past 8 years when the report group asked for data and weren't given it. Why would that be delayed when she knew the importance of the report?

SoMuchForSummerLove · 16/06/2021 09:48

She's been near or in the top job for years and doubtless could have used her power to make things very different for the family. But she didn't.

Don't make this a 'woman scapegoat' thing when it isn't.

endofthelinefinally · 16/06/2021 09:55

The thing is, it isn't just the met. It is absolutely rife everywhere. Look at West Yorkshire polie and Jimmy Saville, Rotheram and the abuse of underage girls, Scottish police and the persecution of women, city of London police and the corruption there.
Thise are just examples off the top of my head. I am sure there are many more. Where on earth do we begin?

Frownette · 16/06/2021 10:07

I hadn't heard of Daniel Morgan before, has everyone else? The whole case is quite frightening. The police should have cooperated fully

Willyoujustbequiet · 16/06/2021 10:08

She commanded the operation that resulted in the murder of Jean Charles de Menezes.

She clearly knows where the bodies are buried to be coated in Teflon this long.

seashells11 · 16/06/2021 10:17

So because she's a woman she should take no blame? Confused

SoMuchForSummerLove · 16/06/2021 10:19

@frownette there's a whole podcast about it by his brother, it's utterly fascinating, there's so much complexity in the story.

Theluggage15 · 16/06/2021 10:19

What’s being a woman got to do with anything? She was actually involved in the cover up. Of course she should go. She’s absolutely useless anyway.

DioneTheDiabolist · 16/06/2021 10:27

She should be fired, not "forced to resign".Angry Women are just as capable of corruption as men.

AOwlAOwlAOwl · 16/06/2021 10:29

I don't really care what happens to Cressida Dick tbh. Out of all the wrong doing these past 37 years you focus on her being scapegoated. Someone should be, the failure to cooperate with the independent panel all came from her.

If anyone is interested in the full background to all of this the Untold podcast is fascinating, agree with PP. Deep links to Leveson 2 which got cancelled by the government. They all have their hands dirty, government, media, police.

ScreamingMeMe · 16/06/2021 10:38

[quote SoMuchForSummerLove]@frownette there's a whole podcast about it by his brother, it's utterly fascinating, there's so much complexity in the story.[/quote]
Yes it's brilliant and horrifying in equal measure.

ilovesooty · 16/06/2021 10:49

@DioneTheDiabolist

She should be fired, not "forced to resign".Angry Women are just as capable of corruption as men.
Absolutely.
Frownette · 16/06/2021 10:52

Thanks for that @SoMuchForSummerLove, I will have a listen. I'm a bit gobsmacked Dick didn't cooperate

Daphnise · 16/06/2021 10:55

That woman also authorised the killing of Jean Charles de Menezes and was never held to account for that either.

It would not surprise me if she wriggles out if this too, and on retirement moves to some highly paid part time job, and further honours.

All the other useless Met bosses did the same, Blair, Hogan Howe etc.

MrsPaddyGrant · 16/06/2021 10:57

My understanding is that it isnt to do with the original cover up of the murder 37 years ago - but that the Met was still be obstructive and non co-operative with this enquiry. And they said that this direction came from Cressida Dick.

It isn't anything to do with her being a woman - its that she is still trying to protect the reputation of the Met police rather than admit the truth re corruption and doing something to address it.

Blossomtoes · 16/06/2021 10:58

@Willyoujustbequiet

She commanded the operation that resulted in the murder of Jean Charles de Menezes.

She clearly knows where the bodies are buried to be coated in Teflon this long.

This. Time for her to take her huge pension and bugger off. Such a shame that the first woman in the job is just as bad as the men who preceded her.
Sirzy · 16/06/2021 11:00

One of the things which the report highlighted was that the corruption is still an issue now, so yes she should take responsibility for the issues within the institution she is in charge of.

But she does seem to be Teflon, I can’t help but wonder if in this case it’s because she is a woman that she isn’t being forced out even with all the failings.

Velvian · 16/06/2021 11:01

The podcast is brilliant, it's call Untold and is available on Spotify. The institutional corruptions spreads over numerous institutions.