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AIBU to think Cressida Dick will be expected to shoulder the blame for 37 year cover up?

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longwayoff · 16/06/2021 09:04

Daniel Morgan was murdered 37 years ago. Various cover ups over the years involving the Met and the Murdoch press have ensured that nobody has been found guilty of the murder and everything is now so murky that a fair trial couldn't be held. Successive Commissioners have held sway throughout these years. Now the report on this has been issued, and the extent of Met police corruption made public, I won't be surprised to find a woman, Dame Cressida, being blamed for the whole messy caboodle. Will she be forced to resign?

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ChicChaos · 16/06/2021 11:02

I also made the teflon comment to DH about Cressida Dick last night when the news were reporting on this. Not making the Police Force look very good just now.

Bloodyfuckit · 16/06/2021 11:05

@DrManhattan

Being a woman has nothing to do with it. What has happened is disgusting and responsibility needs to be taken
Very naive of you to think her being a woman doesn't factor in all this.
kirinm · 16/06/2021 11:07

It has absolutely nothing to do with her being a woman and all to do with her being the Commissioner.

The deaths of Mark Duggan, Ian Tomlinson and Stephen Lawrence show you exactly what happens in the Met. They're institutionally racist and corrupt and it is happening on her watch.

She won't resign.

Bloodyfuckit · 16/06/2021 11:08

@seashells11

So because she's a woman she should take no blame? Confused
That's not what's being said. She should be held to the same standards as all the previous men before her.
kirinm · 16/06/2021 11:09

She personally obstructed the inquiry.

Ponoka7 · 16/06/2021 11:12

"She should be held to the same standards as all the previous men before her."

It'll be a farce if more happens to her than those involved in Hillsborough. Based on that she'll get to retire on full pension.

BirdsandBeesmakinghay · 16/06/2021 11:13

The whole thing is an eye opener. It’s appalling that corruption still flourishing unchallenged .

Blossomtoes · 16/06/2021 11:19

She will get to retire on full pension. Of course she will. The only question is when. Personally I’d like it to be today.

JosephineDeBeauharnais · 16/06/2021 11:32

@Bluntness100

She’s a tough old boot, she will just tell everyone to fuck off and stay put till she’s decided she’s had enough. She’s endured many calls to resign and seems to give not one fuck.
This. How she not only survived the tube shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes but has continued her upward trajectory unhindered is a mystery wrapped in a scandal.
markmichelle · 16/06/2021 11:35

The Police is out of control.
Not because they are corrupt but because the senior officers are not up to the jobs they are in.
They should have an "officer class" in the same way that the Armed Forces have.
All Armed Forces in the world recruit differently for officers. Because officers face different problems.
There is always the opportunity for good candidates from the ranks to be commissioned.

LesRosiers · 16/06/2021 11:42

We do women in senior positions a huge disservice if we always assume that they are being criticised merely as a result of their sex. The head of an organisation should be judged on the quality of what they do, and nothing else. Cressida Dick doesn't appear to be doing a good job, her sex should be irrelevant unless it is being used as a stick to beat her with. I see no evidence of that

suspiria777 · 16/06/2021 12:07

@longwayoff

Daniel Morgan was murdered 37 years ago. Various cover ups over the years involving the Met and the Murdoch press have ensured that nobody has been found guilty of the murder and everything is now so murky that a fair trial couldn't be held. Successive Commissioners have held sway throughout these years. Now the report on this has been issued, and the extent of Met police corruption made public, I won't be surprised to find a woman, Dame Cressida, being blamed for the whole messy caboodle. Will she be forced to resign?
YANBU - the "glass cliff" is a well known move for organisations who foresee trouble ahead: promote a woman to the helm, and let her be the sacrificial lamb when her predecessors' failures come to light.
DioneTheDiabolist · 16/06/2021 12:17

Cressida Dick is no wee sacrificial lamb. Her failures, incompetence and now corruption are hers.

Bloodyfuckit · 16/06/2021 12:29

@DioneTheDiabolist

Cressida Dick is no wee sacrificial lamb. Her failures, incompetence and now corruption are hers.
This may be so but until all the corrupt, incompetent, lying, failing men in leadership positions are held to account, I'm not going to vilify her above all else.
longwayoff · 16/06/2021 12:33

I agree, I hold no brief for the Dame who should have been booted out, at the least, for the utterly disgraceful de Menezes episode not to mention her other balls ups. Plenty of blame to attach to her. But will she pay for everything back to 1987? Nothing more to see here, move along please everything's her fault, it will never happen again. . . Or will others, including the Murdoch minions, be paying in some way too? I suspect not.

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knittingaddict · 16/06/2021 12:51

We were watching this on the news last night.

If my middle class, middle aged, law abiding, authority respecting husband thinks the police can't be trusted, then there is a real problem here. We police by consent in this country and need a decent police force in order to make that work. The authorities can't afford to ignore this or brush it under the carpet.

An encounter I had with a policeman years ago soured my opinion of them. Their response to our daughter's domestic abuse situation sealed the deal.

There are good police officers, but the ignorant, badly trained or useless ones are usually encountered at some point and nothing happens, yet again. It's frustrating.

Oblomov21 · 16/06/2021 13:09

Bet she won't get sacked. They never do, so they? Hmm

PotatoBasedSnacks · 16/06/2021 13:18

She and Ghislaine Maxwell both went to my old school, about a year apart I think, which I find quite odd.

DingleyDel · 16/06/2021 13:22

There’s another tread on this in news topic that’s interesting. She’s been personally named in a report for being obstructive the enquiry. That in itself is corrupt. I don’t see how she can cling on.

longwayoff · 16/06/2021 14:14

That's interesting potato, did you see C4 news the other day about total lack of police action regarding apparent lawbreaking in UK by Ms Maxwell and her man?

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PotatoBasedSnacks · 16/06/2021 17:52

No I didn't! How curious 🤔. I'm not really a conspiracy theorist about it though, was just thinking the school has produced more than its share of not that pleasant people! Blush

tornadosequins · 16/06/2021 18:00

Policing is all about protecting its own above all else. That's not a revelation.

One person leaving wouldn't change anything.

longwayoff · 16/06/2021 20:27

Agreed. Coincidence not conspiracy, probably, and also agree one person carrying the can for all won't change a thing. Hope Jed Mercurio is working on a script right now, thats likely to be the clearest picture we'll ever get of this. Oh god, it's so bloody depressing.

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donquixotedelamancha · 17/06/2021 00:22

She should be held to the same standards as all the previous men before her.

Why? At least some of the commissioners from the past seem to have got away with actual corruption (rather than just not asking questions). Given that she's been actively doing the same now why would we not take action now that what's been going on is public?

NiceGerbil · 17/06/2021 02:05

She is awful.

The met is awful.

The whole force needs to be totally reformed.

They haven't been fit for purpose for decades and have s list of appalling behaviour, corruption, cover ups etc as long as your arm.