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DH got drunk and binned DS’s birthday balloon

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RealNameChanger · 12/06/2021 18:41

The short story: after an evening of drinking, husband popped DS’s perfectly decent 3 day old helium birthday balloon. He can’t remember doing it, but yet he can remember that apparently I told him to do it, so it’s my fault that DS was upset to find out his balloon was gone.

The rest of the details:

Two of our children have birthdays days apart. I got them both helium birthday number balloons this year, first time we’ve done this.

On the eve of the second birthday in the same week, once I’d put the soon to be birthday child to bed, I brought the balloon and presents out of their hiding place, ready for the morning.

DH made a comment that we should “Get rid of the other balloon so it doesn’t look like DD is turning 85 tomorrow”. I can’t remember exactly what I said in response, but I probably concurred with a “yes if you think so” because in my head I remember thinking “yes we could move it to a different room if we are that worried about causing confusion, but I don’t think it’s a big deal and neither child will be bothered either way”. I definitely did not at any point in this short exchange think that DH meant bin it, and definitely would not have agreed to that. Because it’s wasteful, and was a present for our DS that he had been enjoying - who pops a child’s balloon whilst it is still perfectly decent?!

As well as our three older children, we have a young baby. When he woke sometime around 10pm, I went up to settle him and then go to bed myself. I said goodnight to DH, eldest DS (11 years), and DHs two friends who were over for dinner, and left them finishing up the board game they had been playing. I asked DH to finish writing his bit in DDs birthday card from us and leave it with the balloon and presents for her.

DD had a lovely birthday the next day. Except her birthday card from us was missing and DH couldn’t remember what he had done with it, although he did remember finishing the card.

Fast forward to later in the afternoon, DS came to me in tears because his older brother had told him that him and his dad had popped his birthday balloon and put it in the bin. This sounded absurd to me, so I told him not to worry, of course no one would have binned his balloon, they would have just put it in another room.

DH said he couldn’t remember, so me and DS went on a hunt around the house for his balloon, but couldn’t find it. Older DS was adamant that he watched his dad pop the balloon and put it in the bin before they went to bed the night before. So I asked DH again about the balloon and he still couldn’t remember what he had done with it (it wasn’t in the bin, which was why I was sure it must be intact somewhere in the house) but then he said “You did tell me to get rid of it”. So he was admitting that he’d “got rid of it” despite not remembering how or where, and at the same time being able to remember that it was my fault. Cue a small debate in our kitchen whilst everyone was in the garden out of earshot about the dictionary definition of “get rid” and me being quite confused as to why someone would pop and bin a child’s birthday balloon without their consent that had only been bought a couple of days ago. He concluded that whatever happened it was my fault as I’d asked him to “get rid” (apparently now remembering that I had told him to get rid, not the other way round)

He asked me to stop going on about it, as we had family guests over for the birthday, and he “didn’t understand why I was making a big deal about it”. So I have an upset DS who has been told it’s my fault his balloon was binned, an older DS who is probably hugely confused after watching his dad bin the balloon and then outright not remember anything about it the next day, and yet it somehow all happened because of me but I don’t have the right to ask questions about what happened to lead to me getting the blame?

DH also showed no remorse and gave no apology to DS for binning his balloon, he just didn’t seem to care about it at all, but I suspect he was being blasé so as to brush it under the carpet before his family were aware of his actions (they were present at the house at the time).

We also have still not located the birthday card from us to DD. Two weeks later, after several full house cleans, it has not turned up. I suspect it probably accidentally ended up in the bin with the balloon as if it were in the house I think it would have turned up by now. It’s not a huge deal, just frustrating in a ‘you only had one job’ type situation, and the only cards I keep from birthdays are the ones DH and I write to the children, so it was of some importance to me even if DD couldn’t care less about cards at 5 years old.

His behaviour when drinking does bother me (lots of incidents of misremembering or compete memory blackouts of stupid things he’s done) But it’s been a long year and a half of lockdowns, life stresses, and a new baby - I feel like I’m doubting my confidence to know what is normal couple bickering / misunderstandings, and what is something a bit more than that. I also feel a bit silly writing this many words about a saga with a birthday balloon 🙄Although obviously, it’s more than that, and I feel either he genuinely can't remember, or that he is gaslighting me by telling me it's my fault and that I'm making a mountain out of a molehill.

Am I being unreasonable in making a big deal out of a simple miscommunication? Or is something a bit off with DH's actions here?

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HopeClearwater · 12/06/2021 19:31

He’s not dependant on alcohol. He just went 3 months teetotal because was on some fitness kick. He can choose not to drink. But when he chooses to be drunk he is a shitty drunk.

He’s still got an alcohol problem then. Loads of alcoholics can stop for months at a time. I know, I was married to one. He drank himself to death.

Wake up and smell the coffee. If he doesn’t stop, he will only get worse.

BeeCool · 12/06/2021 19:33

Convenient how he can remember it's your fault but can't actually remember what happened. Does he blame you a lot?

Blossomtoes · 12/06/2021 19:35

@Hoppinggreen

Well it’s not about a balloon or a card is it? It’s the fact that he obviously has an issue with alcahol and it impacts you and your children. If you continue to tolerate it you are setting them up for a life of shit birthdays
This. You’re making a massive fuss about a balloon while minimising the real issue which is his excessive drinking.
KingAlex · 12/06/2021 19:37

I think it's horrible for kids to see their parents drunk, your poor 11yo. DH is producing the next generation of people who abuse alcohol.

The fact he is blaming you and can't remember his actions all points to a problem with drinking.

RealNameChanger · 12/06/2021 19:41

@BeeCool yes, pretty much any grievance I have is my fault.

@Hankunamatata I’m annoyed at myself that I probably did overact about the balloon. Because it means he can always put the focus on my overreaction being the thing that is the problem, rather than his actions or drinking or any of it.

I agree that it is problem drinking, whether he can go without alcohol or not.

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godmum56 · 12/06/2021 19:43

[quote RealNameChanger]@BeeCool yes, pretty much any grievance I have is my fault.

@Hankunamatata I’m annoyed at myself that I probably did overact about the balloon. Because it means he can always put the focus on my overreaction being the thing that is the problem, rather than his actions or drinking or any of it.

I agree that it is problem drinking, whether he can go without alcohol or not.[/quote]
lets call it what it is....he is alcohol dependent.

YanTanTethera123 · 12/06/2021 19:44

He’s a (semi) functioning alcoholic and I certainly wouldn’t want him around my children. My BIL is like this, an abusive arse when he’s drinking and he doesn’t give a toss about anything.
Poor children, what a role model to live up to.

HopeClearwater · 12/06/2021 19:46

Because it means he can always put the focus on my overreaction being the thing that is the problem, rather than his actions or drinking or any of it

Sadly this is absolutely classic addict behaviour.

RealNameChanger · 12/06/2021 19:47

@Blossomtoes at the time I was scrambling to work out what the fuck happened to the balloon, it was very confusing. But I don’t even care about the balloon, it was his reaction that set me off into confusion and frustration. In that situation it was hard to call out the behaviour because I didn’t know the full extent of the situation and was trying to piece bits of info together. I agree that the real issue is definitely his drinking and his behaviour. The confusion at the time meant I didn’t have the presence of mind to put my finger on the real issue straight away. I regret this and am now stewing on it.

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pointythings · 12/06/2021 19:48

The alcohol is the real problem here. An alcoholic is not defined by the frequency with which they drink but by the extent to which their drinking affects their ability to function (so blackouts are a huge issue) and the extent to which their drinking has a negative effect on their family.

By those criteria, your husband has a big alcohol problem. Unfortunately you are powerless to do anything about it; only he can do that, and I don't see him acknowledging that he has a problem given his background and his tendency to gaslight you.

This means you have a choice: Stay and put up with many more years of this, or rescue yourself and your children. Growing up with an alcoholic for a parent has a massive negative impact on a child.

I stayed too long and my DDs are still affected.

ProbablyProbing · 12/06/2021 19:49

YABU about the balloon, he's BU about the drinking. Drunk or sober, "get rid" to any reasonable person means "throw away".

HopeClearwater · 12/06/2021 19:59

The confusion at the time meant I didn’t have the presence of mind to put my finger on the real issue straight away. I regret this and am now stewing on it.

You’ve got nothing to regret here. Unfortunately this is what happens when you are living with a person whose alcohol intake makes them unpredictable. It messes with your head.

EKGEMS · 12/06/2021 19:59

Unfortunately he is an alcoholic and his unwitting enabler is you,OP! You're around to pick up the pieces and keep the family functioning, and be his emotional punching bag! If I were you I'd take myself to Al-Anon and educate myself and start planning to end the marriage

Psychonabike · 12/06/2021 20:06

He might get away with drinking like this (in terms of his physical health) for many years....

...but I think you need to make him aware that it will spell a death of a thousand cuts for your relationship and family life.

It doesn't have to be a big thing, one big mistake. Make that clear to him. Because he will minimise and trivialise things like the balloon and card. He needs to understand that a happy and functioning relationship and family life depends on working as partners on all the little things. Not one person being the safety net, picking up the slack, while the other puts alcohol first. That way, it's death by a thousand (little) cuts.

I've attached a graph from an excellent scientific paper which measured the harms associated with alcohol and other drugs in the UK. The harms include things like broken families, job losses, health etc etc...very holistic...rather than simply deaths. Look where alcohol is on the chart, compared to heroin for example.

DH got drunk and binned DS’s birthday balloon
Psychonabike · 12/06/2021 20:08

The other key thing to note is how much harm alcohol inflicts on others, compared to the use of other drugs.

User52739 · 12/06/2021 20:13

This incident alone is a big storm in a teacup, but there’s clearly a big context of problematic drinking which changes things.

NewlyGranny · 12/06/2021 20:13

Just a thought, OP, does he routinely sabotage family events that don't centre him? Like Christmas and your birthday, and the children's? Or is this a one-off?

To me, it's not even the balloon and the card, it's the blame shifting and the deceit. It is deceit, because the card your child never even saw wasn't in the bin, so he's either hidden or destroyed it to avoid taking responsibility.

This won't get better on its own, will it?

elkiedee · 12/06/2021 20:21

I don't understand those who think OP is being unreasonable about the balloon. There's obviously a lot more than this to it but he's behaving in a horrible way to his kids and you, and blaming you over the balloon to the kids. Clearly your younger DS was upset and hurt and confused and it's out of order when you've done something that's upset your child to try and transfer the blame to the other parent.

And it sounds as if there's a problem both with his level of drinking and in the way he behaves when drunk.

InFiveMins · 12/06/2021 20:25

The entire thing sounds exhausting. Balloon incident aside, he clearly drinks far too much and its unacceptable.

tornadosequins · 12/06/2021 20:42

He's making a choice here to use alcohol as an excuse a) to be a dickhead and b) to gaslight you by lying and blaming alcohol for "not remembering". Like a get out of jail card. " oh it was the alcohol and I can't remember anyway so you can't blame me/hold me to account and I will carry on".

It's a common abusive tactic to pretend not to remember events because of alcohol. Some drink purely to use it as an excuse for things they planned to do whilst sober. Acting up how "drunk" they are and labouring the "it was because I was drunk" or "I don't remember doing that" to dodge accountability and make you doubt yourself.

His lack of memory is clearly very selective and self-serving. I do not buy for one moment that it's genuine.

thelegohooverer · 12/06/2021 20:44

I don’t think you have cause to regret anything OP.

If it were just a simple miscommunication, and he said the following morning that he had assumed “get rid” meant “bin it” and was concerned about ds’ upset, and you then wrote a long post on MN about a balloon, then you would have been over reacting.

What has happened here is that he has lied and gaslit you, sent you on a wild goose chase, put you in the frame, etc to deflect from the actual problem.

Please don’t think for one second that you over reacted. But you have been misdirected.

You don’t have to wait for the next incident, to somehow react appropriately and proportionately. There is no reason not to take the time to sort out your thoughts on this and then bring it up again. You haven’t wasted an opportunity to deal with this. You’ve just taken a while to gather all the relevant facts.

Of course that will make you a nag….misdirection
And you never let anything go …..misdirection

RealNameChanger · 12/06/2021 20:49

@NewlyGranny I wouldn’t say he usually sabotages events that aren’t centred around him. More that he uses celebration events as an excuse to drink under a jovial disguise.

The friends that were here that evening were here to see DD for her birthday, they couldn’t make the party the next day. DH arranged the visit, which I thought would be earlier in the day so they would actually get some time with DD before bedtime (and so we could get her last min bday bits sorted for the morning), but before I knew it DH had invited them for more of an evening thing with a late dinner, and from that point I knew it would get boozy and was a v convenient excuse for DH to drink a lot the night before her bday. He arranged that visit for himself, and the other adults involved, and not for the benefit of his child, nor at my convenience with a young baby Hmm

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RealNameChanger · 12/06/2021 20:51

@thelegohooverer

I don’t think you have cause to regret anything OP.

If it were just a simple miscommunication, and he said the following morning that he had assumed “get rid” meant “bin it” and was concerned about ds’ upset, and you then wrote a long post on MN about a balloon, then you would have been over reacting.

What has happened here is that he has lied and gaslit you, sent you on a wild goose chase, put you in the frame, etc to deflect from the actual problem.

Please don’t think for one second that you over reacted. But you have been misdirected.

You don’t have to wait for the next incident, to somehow react appropriately and proportionately. There is no reason not to take the time to sort out your thoughts on this and then bring it up again. You haven’t wasted an opportunity to deal with this. You’ve just taken a while to gather all the relevant facts.

Of course that will make you a nag….misdirection
And you never let anything go …..misdirection

Yes. I see this. If I choose to bring it up again I will be painted as a nag and petty.
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godmum56 · 12/06/2021 20:54

Are you able to leave?

VeganCheesePlease · 12/06/2021 20:56

Even if he's not dependent on alcohol, I agree that regularly getting black out drunk is not normal or OK. Don't get me wrong I enjoy a few glasses of wine, and like most of us of course I've had a bit too much at parties and events but I definitely wouldn't be putting up with this level. We can't keep blaming lockdown for poor decision making.