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AIBU? It's a Sil and Mil with a massive backstory.

46 replies

WhatToDoAboutInLaws · 11/06/2021 16:16

Is it reasonable for Sil to expect to either visit on a Saturday or Wednesday to see dc. Then complain we are being unreasonable/ difficult to other family members because we did not get back to them in time with a reply (i.e. within a day) so she can no longer do Saturday. Then because its a week day and DH works from home on a wednesday expect to come at lunch time (think lunch is pretty much expected).

There is a massive backstory and I am having real problems with Sil and Mil. Basically we are quite busy at the moment and going through a very bad time. Dc is 3 and a half with a massive language delay and has some difficult behaviour. He is going through a diagnoses for autism at the moment. The whole process is slow and it is keeping me up at night wondering if I am doing the right things and getting the right help. We are still waiting for blood test results with pediatrician, and we have been on the Hanen more than words course. No other help with speech therapy other than that is being offered. My husband is on anti depressants because of this and I am half in a period of denial and almost mourning. I worry about the future. Will he ever make friends? What will happen when DH and I are gone. He is also getting stronger and last night he hit my noise so hard there was blood everywhere and I almost thought he broke it. I always have bruises on me because he will hit you if you tell him not to do something and now has started trying to hit his head to either get attention or because you told him no. I am losing sleep and weight with the worry.

With Sil it’s issues with making demands on our time (i.e. travelling 60 miles when we both can't drive to a clean Mil's rental property over Christmas. She of course was not going to clean anything) or massive boundary issues that is a one way street. She asked to attend dc's first appointment with the pediatrician for his autism diagnoses. In the appointment my medical history was discussed, but my medical history and privacy is not at all respected. But it is like I said a one way street, for example if we asked what happened with her last boyfriend she would be annoyed we even asked because that is private (I would not want to know but it is the principle really) but mine and my dc’s private medical matters deserve no privacy as far as Sil is concerned.

With Mil she has in the past basically insinuated its my parenting before we started on the process of getting the diagnoses. And complained about his behaviour – his running off as he has no sense of danger and his tantrums. As well as pointing out what my dc can't do in front of him (like not responding to being asked what his age is). And when we bring this up it is always turned around to be our fault – well how I am supposed to know you just don't share enough. But as mentioned there is a real problem with respecting privacy and boundaries with my in laws (Mil has in the past told me DH's cousin was in therapy for abandonment issues with her father – I doubt she would want me to know this so I know for a fact your medical privacy is not respected and shared with every family member). Then Mil complains she never sees him. But she visited at Christmas after not seeing him for months and spent the whole time talking to DH and practically ignoring dc. In addition to the complaining about his behaviour and insinuating its my bad parenting (asking if we are talking to him) it's just infuriating. I wish my dc’s language delay and behaviour (that ends up with massive noise bleeds and bruises all over me) was just due to me being a bad parent and not autism.

It is hard enough coping at the moment but with the way some of my in-laws are behaving it is making a difficult situation even harder than it needs to be.

I am tempted to email this thread to MIL and Sil but no doubt somehow they would turn it around to be my fault and them be the victim again! Because it always ends up with it being my fault because we just don’t see them enough and share enough or give into their demands (I could write a long post on just this!).

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WoMandalorian · 11/06/2021 16:25

Wow they sound charming! I wouldn't bother meeting with them at all tbh. They sound like the type of people who constantly overstep boundaries and are draining to be around. You have enough to worry about without worrying about their needs too. I hope you get some answers for your son soon 💐

30degreesandmeltinghere · 11/06/2021 16:30

Duplicate messages.
Hi sil, mil we are sorry you feel we aren't being hospitable /sociable /more suited to visits but we have a lot on right now. We are taking some time out from family occasions and drama as we feel we need to concentrate on dc and getting some post covid life normality.. We hope you are well and will contact you when things are better for us here..
We know you will understand..
Regards op.

30degreesandmeltinghere · 11/06/2021 16:30

Oh and if they don't understand tell them both you have no fucks to give...

30degreesandmeltinghere · 11/06/2021 16:31

And I remember your thread about the house clean...
They are still bonkers..

WhatToDoAboutInLaws · 11/06/2021 16:35

30degreesandmeltinghere that reply would just get turned around to me being the unreasonable one again, and not being accommodating enough. It would just go over their heads. Seems whatever I say I am in the wrong and they are the victim because I am just that terrible.

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Aquamarine1029 · 11/06/2021 16:38

I remember your other threads. Honestly, just stop talking to them. You are under no obligation to.

BluebirdHill · 11/06/2021 16:42

@WhatToDoAboutInLaws

30degreesandmeltinghere that reply would just get turned around to me being the unreasonable one again, and not being accommodating enough. It would just go over their heads. Seems whatever I say I am in the wrong and they are the victim because I am just that terrible.
You're going to be made out to be unreasonable whatever you do or say. So you may as well spare yourselves the grief of seeing them! Even if you put yourselves out massively, they'll never be happy, so why put yourself through it?

I agree with the pp. Send a message saying life is very hectic for you right now and you'll be in touch when things are better. You will be the bad guy regardless so don't indulge their nonsense.

Bonheurdupasse · 11/06/2021 16:42

Just literally ignore them.
Don’t answer

funnylittlefloozie · 11/06/2021 16:42

Even if they do "turn it round on you" and suggest you are the bad guy, who are they going to tell that actually cares? Noone, that's who.

I'm sorry to hear about everything you're going through with your DS. I hope things begin to get easier for you soon.

Lollypop701 · 11/06/2021 16:44

You can’t change them or their expectations. You can only change your behaviour and response . You either call mil/sil out every time they’re behaving like idiots. Or go lc

Howshouldibehave · 11/06/2021 16:45

I think you need to have far less to do with them. Don’t arrange Wednesday visits, don’t agree to travel 60 miles to clean someone else’s property.

3peassuit · 11/06/2021 16:45

I’ve seen your other threads. Go no contact, these people are not on your or your child’s side.

30degreesandmeltinghere · 11/06/2021 16:48

We are nc with ils. Definitely recommend it.
You and your dc Do not need such toxic people. Family or not...

Aquamarine1029 · 11/06/2021 16:50

To add to what I said above... I say this as gently as possible, but at this point, you are the maker of your own misery when it comes to your MIL and SIL.

You know who they are, and you know exactly how horrible, petty, and vindictive they are, so why do you keep subjecting yourself to their bullshit? Just stop it. Stop talking to them and stop seeing them. They are nothing but toxic.

Rexasaurus · 11/06/2021 16:55

I remember your previous thread. Are you telling me SIL actually came to your child’s autism appointment?

I think I’d go no contact to be honest op. I couldn’t manage their overbearing behaviour

cruisecrazy · 11/06/2021 16:56

I am so sorry you are having all these problems. These people are disgusting. My advice would be to go no contact with them, ignore all phone calls, texts etc. You just need to concentrate on your little boy and husband, these people are just toxic and have no respect for you or your family. Please do not let them rule your life. Flowers

youshallnotpass9 · 11/06/2021 16:59

You are there for their entertainment and to be able to have some gossip.

Tell them to fuck off (appropriatly) and stop giving them any head space

IMNOTSHOUTING · 11/06/2021 17:00

They're both mad and completely obnoxious!

intheenddoesitreallymatter · 11/06/2021 17:01

I think I remember your old threads, I’m sorry that things are no better.

You will never win OP and I think that is the greatest outcome you need to remedy with yourself. They will always be right and you will always be wrong. Once you come to terms with the fact they will never see things from your perspective it will all get easier. I would distance yourself and your son from them. Give them no information and give them no drama it will only fuel them.

I fully empathise with how difficult you and your husband must be finding his diagnosis journey. It is hellish and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. Be kind to yourself, especially if your in laws are not.

ellyeth · 11/06/2021 17:26

These people are bullying you. Do you think it might help to have some counselling/assertiveness training? You would be quite within your rights to challenge them re invasion of your privacy and unreasonable demands and cruel and ridiculous comments, but you appear very reluctant to do so. I think some counselling might help you.

What is your husband's view on all this? If it were me, I would be tempted to cut them off completely but you need to discuss all these issues with him and tell him how awful it is making you feel.

I hope you can get some support soon and that your life becomes less stressful.

Pinkylemons · 11/06/2021 17:38

I have an adult son with severe autism, diagnosed at around 3. It’s a depressing/worrying/daunting time. Your in laws sound awful. Why on earth did you SIL want to be at the appointment? They sound like a nasty pair. Try to distance yourself from them and don’t discuss everything that’s going on with your son, it’s none of their business.

BlankTimes · 11/06/2021 18:26

I remember your thread about SIL wanting to take part in your dc's first autism assessment meeting.

Did you manage to say no and keep her away?

Right now, you have two very large difficulties in your life to deal with.

the first and most important one is getting the correct assessments and then interventions for your son. This is the one you and your husband should be spending all of your time and energy on, so you as a family can cope with whatever challenges arise to help your son. It's not an easy task and will take several years, but you will reach a point where your lives are in a balance and you can cope.

Your second difficulty, MIL and SiL is a task that's so much easier to deal with. Take a deep breath, write and tell them to their faces you are going through a very difficult time with your son right now and in order to help him, you and your husband need to concentrate all of your time and energies into understanding his needs and putting all the necessary interventions into place without any input from anyone else.

Tell them that when you have achieved this, you'll be in touch with them, but until then, all of you will not have any more contact with them.

OP you really need to understand that dealing with MIL and SIL is not the same as dealing with normal human beings. They will never respect you and your boundaries, so you need to stop contact with them.

You have a choice in how this situation plays out.

Please choose to focus your and your husband's energies on your son and each other, to pull together.

WhatToDoAboutInLaws · 11/06/2021 19:03

ellyeth
When I bring up their behaviour about insinuating it's my bad parenting then they turn it around on me saying it's my fault for not sharing enough. When I complain about lack of privacy we are shutting them out and they just want to help . It's either my fault because I don't share enough, accommodate them enough and let them help (they don't acutally help) or its some emotional blackmail crap - whatever I say somehow its might fault.
What is your husband's view on all this? he thinks I have some fair points but he is a pushover when it comes to his family.

BlankTimes
Did you manage to say no and keep her away? Yeah I did thank fully. I still think she thinks we were being unreasonable by saying no. It baffles me how entitled some people are, you are right they are not normal human beings. I think Sil probably wanted evidence that it was just my bad parenting all along so she could report to Mil and they could gossip to everyone how right she was and how terrible I am.

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katy1213 · 11/06/2021 19:10

If they turn up on Wednesday, just walk right out the door and leave your husband to manage lunch/childcare/entertaining in the middle of his working day.
His family, his problem. No need for you to engage with them at all.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 11/06/2021 19:14

With all due respect, do you really care if they think you are unreasonable? And, if so, why do you care?

In your shoes, I would just say enough is enough.

Here is a tip - be offended first. It shuts up a lot of people very quickly. To be fair, if your MIL and SIL are as they sound in your ZoP, this probably won’t work on them. But again, who cares what they think?

They are ignoring your boundaries, social norms, social niceties and other people’s privacy. Tell them that they have massively offended you by gossiping and invading your privacy and being disrespectful to you and your child and that you want a time out from them. You hope that six months will be enough time for you to appreciate them again but they are not to contact you again and your DH will be in touch if he wants to see them alone/again/ever.

Figure out the block feature on your phone and email. It’s great!

They are ignoring