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[ZacsGirl]

A friend of mine married her partner 3 year ago, at the time he was staying in England on a work Visa.

They married and applied for permanent stay for him but it was refused as he had overstayed his visa. He was deported back and she worked night and day to reapply for him to show that she was financially secure to support him. They were even told that having a child would help their case, which they tried, unsuccessfully. The paperwork was put through and he was allowed to come back on a permanent basis and now has British citizenship. They then had a child pretty much straight after he came back.

My friend has been on maternity leave for the past year and has now said that she will only go back a few weeks to pay off the maternity leave then leave work. She said her plan is to leave work and apply for benefits. She has on numerous occasions asked me for advice on how to claim as I have previously worked as an advisor in this field.

They have just brought a house, and are doing it up with money that have borrowed and taken out a loan too. It grates me that she genuinely thinks its acceptable to have this mindset. That others will pay for her and her family.

Aibu or should I just help her?

So the husband is going to be working all hours to support his family ...

Just like she did before he came...

Sounds fine to me - literally no idea what your problem is

I don't actually see what her husbands immigrant status and citizenship has to do with her bizarre choice to give up work for UC

But you do you

Goady AF

So she worked her arse off and now thinks she's needs a break to focus on her baby and he is employed? Fair play.

She won't even get much UC if he is employed

Is she having twins too?

@Marshmallow91

OH MA GUUUURD IMMIGRANTS AND BENEFIT SCROUNGERS?!?!?

OK now I've said it, please stop talking utter nonsense.

I bet her husband kills kittens for a living too.

And FYI benefits will only pay the interest on your mortgage, it won't pay any of the loan amount.

It won't even do that if there is any earned income.

@Hawkins001

Unless I'm mistaken, you cannot just quit then claim uc, ?

She can if she has a baby under one year old.

I am confused about where she brought the house from. Did he bring it with him from his home country?

May I throw some pedantry in?

*Bought. They bought a house.

Slopes back to pedants corner

In the unlikely event that any of this is real and not a load of old cods designed to get Daily Mail readers frothing, your ‘friend’ is going to get quite the wake-up call when she realises she won’t be able to claim, having voluntarily left a job, and that she’ll get no help towards her mortgage. I’m surprised someone who used to advise on benefits doesn’t know that.

Why don’t you do the same thing?
Is it because you have a moral obligation to work and pay tax or is it because there is no gold pot of benefits for people choosing not to work despite what daily mail and op want us to believe?

You're no friend

This is clearly utter bullshit.

1. He cannot have British citizenship on the timeline stated.
2. If he's low skilled and works cash in hand then he wasn't here on a work visa.
3. You cannot get a mortgage with the deposit being borrowed money too .

This is clearly an invented story.

OP it's clear how you feel so don't help her

I wouldn't

Some of these comments make me laugh.

So far removed from fucking reality that you think that the post is made up.

So it ok for him not to pay tax however it ok to recieve benefits. Reality of it is he cant do any more hours.

This doesn't add up at all and she wouldn't be entitled to benefits and would lose the house they've supposedly bought.

Are they also getting free yoga lessons on the NHS OP?

@ZacsGirl

Some of these comments make me laugh.

So far removed from fucking reality that you think that the post is made up.

So it ok for him not to pay tax however it ok to recieve benefits. Reality of it is he cant do any more hours.

Well, someone’s removed from reality. I don’t think it’s the respondents to this thread though…

Benefits will not pay enough for the life they have op.

Also, you missed the 'high needs' baby...will no body think of the high needs baby in all this?

They may not be able to get any benefits anyway, I'm afraid. Some people just aren't eligible. I'm not, despite my (not visible) disabilities, because I'm married to someone who works full time.

It's very sad, but sometimes you just can't do anything about it.

That's not how immigration and citizenship applications work - there's no way he's already a citizen. It also costs several thousands of pounds to get through all the applications. For example just to get him back it would have cost nearly 3000 pounds which includes a payment for using NHS services as the new immigrant is not entitled to free NHS treatment.

Then it's another 1-2 thousand to get through the citizenship application (after 3 years living in the UK) which then takes up to six months to adjudicate.

Just say you can't help her if you don't like her choices.

@cabingirl

Thank you for you response.
What you've said makes sense. She did mention to me about the whole living in the uk after 3 years thing, then it becomes permanent stay or something, so I may have got some details incorrect in the original post. She does go on a bit so I switch off.

I have occasionally said to her I dont know, when shes asked me something, but I think I just need to be totally frank with her and tell her I dont agree with her choices.

@AutistGoth
Sorry to hear this.

This is what I mean. Its frustrating to hear that people who need it are told their not eligible.

Benefits are there to assist those that need it most, not those that choose it as a lifestyle option.

If he was removed in the last 3 years and then came back as a spouse he won't have ILR yet let alone be a British citizen

So many holes in this