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His ex is not allowing him to forget her

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Sos12345 · 03/06/2021 14:10

I'm at a loss with a man I really really like. I love him. He loves me. We met probably at a bad time for him. Although he claimed it was the exact perfect time to meet me. He had been in an awful place about 6 months before he met me. Suicidal and unhappy after moving out of the home he had lived in with his ex for the best part of a decade. They clearly had their problems. Argued alot. They started doing things seperately. Sounds like he had a fling after they split. Then he realised he wanted his ex. So he begged for her back. Obviously it didn't happen. So he moved out. Got really depressed. Tried to kill himself. Only survived as he was found by someone in the nick of time dying on the floor.

6 months later he is back working. He meets me through work. We got talking. We realised how much we liked eachother. We built up a really lovely friendship and eventually that turned into love. Which got to the stage of wow we could go further and eventually have it all.

Throughout this time his ex was popping in and out his life. Although at first he said it was just messages. They were friends. I remember he actually had a chat with her to say he was seeing someone and she said she was happy for him. But at that stage she seemed to get even more intense with him. He would tell me things she was telling him about her work or life. She would send him pictures of their old dogs. Plants. Tell him about family stuff.

He was sometimes nostalgic. Sometimes seemed cross. I remember him actually saying looking back he didn't like her very much at all. But then he would go so soft about her and say l, he just liked looking out for her now, she was like a friend.

It kind of ruined what we built up as it was becoming quite irritating for me. I was sick of her being mentioned. It felt like everything he liked was linked to her. The places they ate. The places they went.

Three months we ended up apart. In that time I struggled. I missed him terribly. We ended it on an angry note. We bumped into eachother last month. It was abit emotional. We didn't talk much. But after a week he suddenly ramped up the contact. We've talked out some of the things that happened. He wants us to meet and I would love to but he's not giving me the same sort of affection and love from before. He messages me like a friend. Rings me and we just chat. There have been conversations when he's talked about stuff he wants us to do. Like beaches. Zoos. He said he'd like to buy me a piece of jewellery and then explained he had done similar with his ex and got her charms for all the places they went. He hasn't bought me it yet. I'm realising he wants to go to places he took her. But that might not be all bad.

Anyway yesterday I told him my new sandals had torn my feet to shreds. He told me about a brand women wore when he lived in Germany. I googled them to see and it's the exact sandals his ex has on in half his pictures.

I have asked him about his feelings and he's very much no! Would never go back to her. But I truly feel she is the reason we can't progress.

It's been 3 years in December and they are still constantly in touch. It's very off putting.

I know full well they don't want to be together now. But they both clearly have not accepted to move on with other people they need to give the other alot more space than they are giving. It's definitely affecting him. He has an unhealthy obsession with her still I'd say.

I don't want to give him up as we do get on so well. But I fear that she's not going to move on anytime soon. She's 38 and he's 46. She's an attractive woman. So I cant see why she's still alone unless she wants to be.

I don't know what to do. I feel like her moving on is the only way he will let go.

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NoNobramma · 03/06/2021 14:15

Life is too short for him to keep her in his life and have you. He’s made his choice. Move on yourself and be relieved to be free.

Temp023 · 03/06/2021 14:15

Yep, you don’t need this much drama in your life, walk away and allow yourself to find the Man who deserves you.

User629202 · 03/06/2021 14:40

I’m so sorry but I think you’re setting yourself up for heartbreak. He doesn’t need his ex’s permission to move on; the fact that he hadn’t done so yet is because he isn’t ready and he doesn’t want to let go. He may really like you and may see you as someone he could be happy with, but he’s not willing to let go of his ex and that means you would always have an elephant in the room.

I think you deserve someone who doesn’t still have one foot in their last relationship. I don’t think this guy is going to give you the commitment you want and should have.

FeatheredHope · 03/06/2021 14:47

You deserve far more than this drama with someone who won’t actually choose you over their ex.

Sos12345 · 03/06/2021 14:47

I agree. I just never find that moment to walk. Hes just not putting the effort in to make me feel he's that fussed. It's making me feel sad as he knows how much I like him and I don't want to be back in this situation. I was silly to try again I guess but I hoped he had sorted his head.

If only I could turn my feelings off. I have tried so hard to understand. But I don't. She didn't want him anymore. Yet she knows exactly how to keep him from forgetting her. Plus he's also not prepared to see me as his top priority.

I wish I could say to him how he makes me feel but it will be a waste of breath. I get a horrible feeling he's in a bad place again mentally too. I wish I knew what he wanted from me.

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Aquamarine1029 · 03/06/2021 14:49

You are massively wasting your time here. You can see this surely? He has at least one foot planted firmly in the past. If he wanted to be done with his ex, he would be. He would have blocked her long ago.

5475878237NC · 03/06/2021 14:53

I think you need to stop wasting energy trying to figure him out and look at his actions. He hasn't grieved his 10 year relationship. Whilst they may know it didn't work that doesn't mean they both don't still wish it wasn't so and it sounds like they are struggling to let go.

That's really all you need to know. What you do about it is all you can control. You can't change how he feels about her.

BlueDucky · 03/06/2021 14:54

He's not over her. You deserve better, anyone deserves better. Once you leave you will get over him and can move on to find someone who wants you as much as you want them. There is no right time to do it, it's like ripping off a plaster.

BlueDucky · 03/06/2021 14:55

And you know far too much about his past relationship for it to be healthy.

forinborin · 03/06/2021 14:56

One advice, from someone who used to be in your exact position many years ago.
It is not her, it's him. He is making an active choice not to forget her. I know how easy it is to get into this fallacy and starting to treat her as an enemy who tries to invade into your world of two. But in fact it is him who invites her back through the open door, the door that he keeps open for a reason.

IEat · 03/06/2021 14:57

I would have blocked when relationship like that ended but for some reason he still feels he needs her on his life, perhaps because of the things he went through when the split up. Delta hard one but if you want to try again with him you have to trust him. Otherwise there’s no point in going there again. His friendship with with ex may diminish when he starts to feel stable with you and he may open up to you how he does with his ex

DeeCeeCherry · 03/06/2021 14:57

He's a ditherer, both towards you and his Ex. A Man like that is no use. Why put yourself through the drama? Cut contact go through the heartbreak then pick yourself up and move on. There are other men out there. This one was never really your partner and he never will be. Don't waste your years on people and situations that aren't worth it.

Sos12345 · 03/06/2021 14:58

Yes I see it. But I get lost in the happier bits. I don't know what to say to him. I don't want another row. I don't know whether to just go quiet. He does contact me each day. To be honest I feel like he's with holding affection until I meet him now. But I can't see me wanting too unless he makes me feel desired and important to him beforehand when he calls and messages. He used to send me really lovely messages. I don't get any now. Not even in love you. Yet he said it everyday before.

I tried to test the waters last week and text I love you on the end of a message. He was asleep so just apologised for being asleep.

I feel like I want him to say it back as that's the only way I know if he's wasting my time 100%. I don't know if I sound pathetic though saying it again? Would you say it again and explain that he needs to be clear with me about his ex too and how she is likely going to affect us? I am willing to tell him I want him to cut back on her if he loves me and that's the only way we will work. Then he can say no and it kind of leaves the ball in his court to end it or start to move on from her.

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5475878237NC · 03/06/2021 15:00

Oh dear. You're deep in the weeds. You can't reason with him. He isn't over his ex. Sounds like he'd like you in his life as he's lonely and missing her.

FeatheredHope · 03/06/2021 15:01

You shouldn’t be having to try and push him into a corner or giving him ultimatums or one last chance to say and do the right things.
He’s had plenty of time to do and say all that but in your own words He has an unhealthy obsession with her.

Stop torturing yourself ffs.

Standrewsschool · 03/06/2021 15:03

“ Yet she knows exactly how to keep him from forgetting her.”

You’re blaming her, but it sounds like he’s equally invested in the friendship. It doesn’t sound like full blown emotional affair with the ex, but they are still very much in each other thoughts.

I don’t think the sandals are a red flag. He probably didn’t even realise they were the brand she wore. He probably just thought they were a good brand.

Visiting the same places and similar jewellery could be one of two things. Either he is re-creating his relationship with his ex, or he’s not very imaginative!

Rumplestrumpet · 03/06/2021 15:07

You said I love you. He ignored it. You don't need to say it again you need to walk away.

RantyAnty · 03/06/2021 15:14

This man is just using you for attention, an emotional tampon about his ex, or when he's bored. Nothing good will ever come from this shituation with him.

Delete and block him.

HollowTalk · 03/06/2021 15:21

Oh god, just read your messages again, OP. There's so much drama coming from this man and now he's gone cold on you.

I assume you don't live together - I hope that's the case. I'd just say that you think he's not ready for a relationship - and that you will be the judge of that, not him - and let's call it a day. Then block him. The last thing you need is to have that carry on with him after ending it.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 03/06/2021 15:24

He is stuck in the habit of, or just enjoys, pining for relationships.
Theirs and yours when you split up. He is someone who always looks back instead of appreciating where he’s currently at and planning for the future.
I really couldn’t be arsed.

Aquamarine1029 · 03/06/2021 15:30

I don't know what to say to him. I don't want another row.

You say goodbye, that's it. Having any type of conversation is pointless. Then you block him.

Sos12345 · 03/06/2021 15:30

I'm definitely deep in the woods. It's been a really important relationship to me. If it wasn't for this issue we would be perfect and that's the painful thing. He's a wonderful bloke but he needs help.

I dont blame her. I blame them both equally. They both need to work through it before leading others into their lives.

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PurpleFlower1983 · 03/06/2021 15:32

YABU for wasting your time on all this romanticised crap. He is using you as therapy to try and get over the love of his life. Move on.

BlueDucky · 03/06/2021 15:32

The sooner you end it the sooner you can heal and move on

Ellie56 · 03/06/2021 15:33

He hasn't got over her. Just call it a day and block him.