Using God/Christ in negative threads

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Hi all, I’m a long time mumsnetter but finding it hard to read constant threads (as a Christian) that use phrases starting with ‘ for G*d’s sake ( insert some nasty phrase about something) . We don’t accept racist or phobic language so why is it okay to use God, Jesus, Christ etc in these contexts? It’s really uncomfortable to read constantly 🙁

[quote Tigertalk]@HappyHappyHippocampus I don’t understand? I’ve said I find people linking expletives to Christian words uncomfortable. I used the reference to homophobia and racism to illustrate that that rightly isn’t tolerated. Why can’t people generally just have awareness that saying certain things offend a group of people and try not to do those things. Some of the things written by pp on here are really awful and uncalled for .
There’s no need to mock others beliefs and make fun of them - some people are deliberately using the phrasing again to mock me/ others. Nothing short of bullying.
It wouldn’t be tolerated in the work place so why is it ok here?
If I’ve offended anyone it’s not my intention. I just wanted to bring this to light, in case people genuinely weren’t aware that this could be offensive[/quote]
Your really/faux ignorance is just astonishing. You’ve been told why you’ve been offensive. You just refuse to take it on board. This who “poor Christian me” thing is gross.

Btw, you have no idea what religion I am. Don’t assume I’m not Christian because I strongly object to the way you are behaving.

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I’m not new , I’ve been on here years. I’m sure flowers can post to me if she/ he wants to raise an issue

Why are you placing the onus on flowers to let you know you’ve been nasty? you know you’ve been nasty. Be an adult, a Christian, acknowledge it, apologise and ask forgiveness.

Why can’t people generally just have awareness that saying certain things offend a group of people and try not to do those things.

You know what really offends me? Systematic child abuse. Not only the abuse but the denying it, covering it up, pretending it was a few rougue perpetrators, excusing it and then STILL allowing it to happen.

@seashells11

See, this is why Christians have such a bad name and we all roll our eyes at this sort of fundamentalist need to take offence. They like to police everything and are so holier than thou and stifling.

What about other religions who take offence. I'd say Christians are far more tolerant than most other religions. Does Islam not have a bad name too, especially for being offended easily,?

What does Islam have to do with this? That's an irrelevant point because the discussion is Christianity.

I genuinely don’t want to be aware of how offended a person that doesn’t see the difference between words that are common place in the English language with hate words such as the N word or F word. I couldn’t care less about the feelings of a person as ignorant as that.

If that offends you mortally, so be it. Like they say, don’t dish it if you can’t take it.

Oh no no @Jimmynicholsbridie. That was a “mistake” (OPs own words)

I think in this instance you might have to try and understand that it's not meant to be offensive and try and live with it OP

It's an interesting point isn't it, given as said that religion's a protected characteristic too?

I'm interested in the principle here, and wonder why one "protected thing" is considered fair game, yet others are way beyond the "It's not meant to be offensove"

I think societally we have lost sight of the fact that words, in and of themselves, are not intrinsically offensive. Infliction, context and intention of the speaker/writer is vital to measure whether something is offensive or not.

@HappyHappyHippocampus I’ve explained myself several times , if you can’t articulate your issue then please stop
@UhtredRagnarson already apologised upthread. Although no apology for what flowers said to me.
Any way , i want to enjoy the sunshine now ☀️ it’s a beautiful day and this thread is full of animosity which is depressing and not what I expected tbh. Happy to debate things but people just being rude and bullying and offensive is just not on. Thanks to those of you who made some really interesting points about history, Christianity, culture etc and It’s helped. Have a good day everyone

You need to assume that someone who is blaspheming isn't Christian. Subsequently they're not referring your God.
My understanding is there are 3000+ Gods.

There are far, far, far more offensive things people do - pick your battles

CokeDrinker If ever Islam ever gets discussed Christianity ALWAYS comes into it. It's all to do with showing the inconsistencies (which are many) in the way it's consider fine to blaspheme/ criticise Christianity as against another main religion. Of course it should be mentioned. It's ok for one but not the other.

@amusedtodeath1

I think societally we have lost sight of the fact that words, in and of themselves, are not intrinsically offensive. Infliction, context and intention of the speaker/writer is vital to measure whether something is offensive or not.

This is a great way of framing things

I think Jesus in the cabbage van is perfectly acceptable. That’s not actually blasphemy, unless you happen to worship a rather nice Portuguese chap who works for Ocado. But I think that would scare him tbh.

Oh I’ve explained myself plenty. You’re just put out because you’ve been called out, not just by me but most of the other posters on this thread.

I wish I could move through life so blindly. I guess blissful ignorance really is a thing.

@Tigertalk ive never known life as a non Christian

I find that quite worrying in some way. It's almost like you were brainwashed from birth, so can't conceive of not being Christian? How can you not know or at least - not know that life is normal for non-Christians? If you've never not even considered being atheist, then to me it's like you never questioned and were brainwashed so if you were, how can you know for a fact you are Christian if you've never questioned yourself?

Yes I'm leaving too, not in the mood for goady comments such as "imaginary friend" etc, and also people who don't get the point that people will only ever dare insult Christians and know they'll get away with it. Anyway I'm off to enjoy the sun too.

Mumsnet is a godless place. It’s all about science here.

and also people who don't get the point that people will only ever dare insult Christians

How bizarre that this is the case when there are whole wars started against the Muslim faith.

Ignorant.

It maybe "godless" in your eyes, but it is not short of common sense, compassion, kindness and spirituality either

@speakout

But I dont expect non-Christians to behave as if they are a Christian. They cant anyway.

lightand can you explain this?

They wont know everything that is expected of them. Plus being a Christian is a process. We start off as baby Christians, drinking milk, as the Bible puts it. It is hard job, a lifetime, of learning and then putting things into practice.

OP - you are the one who is being offensive - trying to dictate how people on a forum speak, get a grip and realise a big world exists outside yours.

@seashells11 Why is it that someone always have to bring in Islam (usually racist people and/or Christians) into a discussion, as if to nullify some people by saying 'at least they/we are not Muslims', and then whinge about being goady. Maybe have a look at yourself and ask yourself why you are desperate to change the topic from Christianity to Islam? What are you trying to avoid or cover up?

You say that like science is a bad thing blank space?

(This should have been my first response lol)

I don’t think I was nasty I just said she/he sounded angry. I think flowers and I are just fine

And yet a few of us have read something passive aggressive about your response.

And then you state that some disagreeing with you are trolls.

And that Christians/god loves everyone (apologies - can’t remember exactly what was said)

The colleague who ruined my life for over 4 years and who destroyed my reputation with heinous rumours was a Christian taught to love everyone. He told me every day how rotten I was and how he was chosen.

After praying (because yes, I once had faith) never to wake up each morning because his behaviour was escalating so wildly and it not coming true, I prayed for him to stop.

Because that worked eh?

I have respect for all faiths but he killed mine because there was always some swipe about me going to hell, being damned, being worse than a murderer and that God would forsake me. I was at the mercy of that bastard for years because he was always so nice to others.

A more evil man you could never meet in my opinion.

It is the poking digs I don’t get. No one is expecting people to turn the other cheek but you can’t claim to be offended and then insult someone - overtly or not.

I am not saying that every Christian is the same. Of course not.

But he coloured my judgement and the first sight of a bit of snark and snideyness harkens me back.

I’m sure they didn’t teach that in the Kirk when I was younger.

’It’s all about science here.’

a damning indictment indeed