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Secret Ceremony okay or should we have had a Public Holiday?

82 replies

Nothingyet · 30/05/2021 04:25

I'm sure we all wish the lovely young couple every happiness in life whatever they choose to do, and hope they will be able to afford to move up to a house soon. But should we have had a bit of a national holiday on their wedding or was a secret ceremony the right thing to do?

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MaMelon · 30/05/2021 09:45

I’d have preferred a public holiday - it could have been called Backhander Monday, or Corrupt Monday, something like that. The Tories missed a trick there.

the80sweregreat · 30/05/2021 10:02

@3peassuit

I’m surprised he didn’t burst into flames when he entered the cathedral.
😀
TwoAndAnOnion · 30/05/2021 10:04

@Toddlerteaplease

No. Who cares. I'm wondering how they managed to have a Catholic ceremony though.
Because they're both catholic and his two previous Anglican marriages don't count
CurryLover55 · 30/05/2021 10:04

ghostyslovesheets - a tiny rats wank?? Never heard that one before! 🤣

TwoAndAnOnion · 30/05/2021 10:08

@fiftiesmum

It doesn't say much for a church which says marriage is for life when he manages to get his first two marriages "annulled " shows that power and influence still count
His previous marriages weren't annulled, they were Anglican/civil hence he divorced.

As a returner to the catholic faith, these marriages wont count as they are not within the catholic faith

TwoAndAnOnion · 30/05/2021 10:13

[quote newnortherner111]@DeathStare his children who are older and/or adult would not attend, I expect.

They may have a larger celebration next year, party or something similar. Sadly, because Mr Johnson won't be facing the criminal charges I think he should face.[/quote]
His father, siblings and half-siblings from Stanleys second marriage were there, why would you assume Boris wouldn't invite his own adult children?

colouringindoors · 30/05/2021 10:13

I'm disgusted he was married in Westminster Cathedral.

MinesAPintOfTea · 30/05/2021 10:42

@TwoAndAnOnion it is widely claimed that Johnson is not in good terms with his adult children.

Streamside · 30/05/2021 11:13

It's probably all he can afford and he couldn't risk any more controversy. Interesting to note that non Catholic weddings are irrelevant to the Catholic church, very ecumenical of them. I now know why my ex brother in law who beat up his wife and left her with 4 children under 5 was able to have a huge Catholic wedding in a cathedral within a year of his divorce.

CynsterBitch · 30/05/2021 11:17

Is spousal privilege still a thing legally? I just assumed someone was hedging his bets Incase DC decides to actually reveal the criminal behavior they’ve both been up to (BJ & DC I mean)

QueenVikki · 30/05/2021 11:21

Just reading that as a Catholic his first two marriages are not recognised. I feel sorry for his ex-wives & children, he really is a low-life.

CatherineCawood · 30/05/2021 11:24

I'd rather go to work than celebrate that wankers wedding. I have way more respect for the owner of the company I work for than I do for him.

2beesornot2beesthatisthehoney · 30/05/2021 11:44

Not sure where people have got the isles that the first 2 marriages are not valid in the eyes of the church THEY ARE! They are not sacramental but they are valid ie in the eyes of the church he is still married unless he got the first 2 annulled. The rules for annulment were quite strict and if they haven’t changed then I can’t see how they could have been . Recent rule changes are in who makes the decision not the ground rules.

I too would like to know how they got married in a Catholic Church.

Freecuthbert · 30/05/2021 11:46

Is Boris really considered lovely and young or are you referring to someone else?

MadeOfStarStuff · 30/05/2021 11:57

Why on earth would anyone want to celebrate a man who doesn’t know how many kids he has marrying the mother of the latest one? It’ll last five minutes before he finds someone even younger to impregnate

oneglassandpuzzled · 30/05/2021 12:00

@BeingATwatItsABingThing

Maybe they chose a bank holiday weekend so we didn’t ask to be given an extra day. Not a wedding I care about but I didn’t care about the last wedding that got us a bank holiday.
Why would you have a public holiday for a PM’s third marriage? He’s not royalty.
oneglassandpuzzled · 30/05/2021 12:02

*Matt Chinery, an ecclesiastical and canon lawyer, told Times Radio on Sunday: "There is a requirement if you are a Roman Catholic that you must have your wedding overseen by a Roman Catholic priest or deacon."

He explained that any other form of marriage "is not valid unless you had previous permission from your bishop to marry outside of the Catholic church".

Boris Johnson was baptised as a Catholic, but was confirmed as an Anglican as a teenager.

Mr Chinery explained: "What I think has happened here is that the Catholic church has looked at Boris Johnson's first two marriages (and) seen that he's a Roman Catholic by baptism.

"They've looked at that, said 'you are a Catholic because you were baptised Catholic, your first two weddings weren't in a Catholic church overseen by a Catholic minister therefore the Roman Catholic church does not recognise those two marriages as valid'."*

FatCatThinCat · 30/05/2021 12:08

I'd rather go to work than have a public holiday to celebrate the third marriage of a morally bankrupt arsehole. And I don't even have a job.

TurquoiseLemur · 30/05/2021 12:42

@Hummingbirdblue

Has his divorce from the last one actually been finalised yet?!
It must have been. If it hasn't been, the marriage yesterday was illegal and has no validity in law.

It wouldn't be the first time he has violated the rules, though.

TurquoiseLemur · 30/05/2021 12:51

@oneglassandpuzzled

*Matt Chinery, an ecclesiastical and canon lawyer, told Times Radio on Sunday: "There is a requirement if you are a Roman Catholic that you must have your wedding overseen by a Roman Catholic priest or deacon."

He explained that any other form of marriage "is not valid unless you had previous permission from your bishop to marry outside of the Catholic church".

Boris Johnson was baptised as a Catholic, but was confirmed as an Anglican as a teenager.

Mr Chinery explained: "What I think has happened here is that the Catholic church has looked at Boris Johnson's first two marriages (and) seen that he's a Roman Catholic by baptism.

"They've looked at that, said 'you are a Catholic because you were baptised Catholic, your first two weddings weren't in a Catholic church overseen by a Catholic minister therefore the Roman Catholic church does not recognise those two marriages as valid'."*

This kind of sophistry is one of many reasons why I left the CC as a young adult. They insist on a position (in this case, "No wedding in a Catholic church if you have been divorced") and then, when it suits them, or suits someone very rich and powerful, they do some very complicated mental and verbal gymnastics and expect everyone else to see their new stance as reasonable.

I have known devout Catholics who have got divorced after years of appalling abuse, and these people definitely have NOT been permitted to get remarried in a Catholic church. But then they aren't very rich and powerful, unlike you-know-who.

Also, what an insulting attitude to take to Johnson's previous wives. ("Those marriages didn't really count.")

MinesAPintOfTea · 30/05/2021 14:08

I thought the divorce was what his attention was on last Feb/March. Just as well there was nothing important going in requiring government decision making at that point

Ihopeyourcakeisshit · 30/05/2021 14:13

@fiftiesmum

It doesn't say much for a church which says marriage is for life when he manages to get his first two marriages "annulled " shows that power and influence still count
My first marriage was annulled and I am a farty.
oneglassandpuzzled · 30/05/2021 16:04

Entirely agree, Sapphire.

oneglassandpuzzled · 30/05/2021 16:05

Sorry, Turquoise

itsgettingwierd · 30/05/2021 16:07

I think we should have one every time he gets married.

I could quite easily look forward to a few more extra days off Wink