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To ask if anyone had the vaccine in pregnancy and has now given birth to a healthy baby?

94 replies

Namechangeme1 · 21/05/2021 19:04

I haven't met anyone IRL that had vaccine whilst TTC or pregnant that has now given birth and it's making me really worried to get the vaccine.

Thalidomide scandal makes me more worried as does the conflicting advice it there - and I'm just extremely worried about this.

I'm booked in This week for my vaccine and also TTC

Has anyone had the vaccine and a safe delivery?

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CanofCant · 21/05/2021 19:06

I haven't so I'm no help there but why don't you hold off TTC for a while until you have had both jabs? Or are you in the middle of the 2ww?

8dpwoah · 21/05/2021 19:09

I know it's not what you asked OP but I saw this this morning so I'm glad I've just had my first dose.
www.bbc.com/news/health-57193361

Namechangeme1 · 21/05/2021 19:09

I was in the TWW and took a test it was negative so will be trying again week after next. I'm thinking to have it now before getting pregnant as I would not feel safe at all having it during pregnancy. But also if I get Covid it's worse during pregnancy so I don't know what to do for the best

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Namechangeme1 · 21/05/2021 19:10

Thanks@8dpwoah

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Oinkypig · 21/05/2021 19:12

There is advice somewhere about this but I can’t for the life of me remember where I saw it, possibly the royal college of obstetricians? Basically though there were women in the trials who got pregnant and there no reported issues. It wasn’t lots of numbers but it was reassuring.

alahwvaha · 21/05/2021 19:13

My friend is in her third trimester and had it last week. No complications so far.

TheMotherlode · 21/05/2021 19:13

They’ve been giving it to women in the US for months now so presumably any links to birth defects, etc would be apparent by this point. I haven’t seen anything making this connection, what I have seen is clear evidence to show that having covid doubles your risk of stillbirth and premature birth. For that reason I’ll be having the vaccine as soon as I can (20 weeks pregnant at the moment)

8dpwoah · 21/05/2021 19:14

And I was just looking up a number- it was 90,000 uncomplicated births in the US after the mRNA jabs that caused the guidance to be changed here.

The official guidance in the UK now via RCOG and NHS is that the Pfizer and Moderna have enough US data behind them to recommend that all pregnant have the option, not just frontline health workers and the CEV as it was before this big dataset was made available.

curcurbita · 21/05/2021 19:17

The vaccine has only been around since December in the UK so you will struggle to find anyone who was TTC/early pregnancy when they had it and has now given birth, unless they were in a vaccine trial or have a v premature baby.

I have had both doses of Pfizer in the first half of my pregnancy and all fine at 20 week scan.

As others have said the US data hasn't shown up any issues and our own regulator is now recommending it. One way to think about it is we do know there is a risk to pregnant women (and their babies) after 28 weeks; we don't 100% know the vaccine is safe but there's not yet any evidence that it isn't.

Angeldust2810 · 21/05/2021 19:37

I had first dose of Moderna yesterday. Nurse asked if I was pregnant which I’m not but she said would have been refused it if I was.

Namechangeme1 · 21/05/2021 19:38

@Angeldust2810 really? Where do you live if you don't mind me asking? And did she give reasons why she would refuse?

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adreamofspring · 21/05/2021 19:53

Royal college of gynaecologists changed their guidance in April to say ‘you can if you want to but the decision is yours’ kind of thing. It’s based on evidence of 900,000 PG women in USA who had either Pfizer or moderna. Antenatal clinic also say that you have to book through your GP. I’m 29 weeks PG and when I try and arrange a vaccine through my GO there is no way for me to tell whether it will be Pfizer or AZ. Im weighing things up but if anyone’s managed to navigate that particular lack of joined up ness hurdle then I’m thinking I might get it.

kneesbentarmsstretchedrararaaa · 21/05/2021 19:55

I'm TTC and I've booked my first jab for a week when I'm due to have my period. Even if I then get pregnant at least I'll have had the first dose which is better than nothing. However if I find out I am pregnant I am not sure if I'll have the jab. I share your concerns about the newness of the vaccine and public health scandals we have had in the past.

TheGoogleMum · 21/05/2021 19:57

There is a known risk with having covid and pregnancy. There is an unknown (but based on evidence so far, non existing) risk with the vaccine in pregnancy. Vaccines are very different to thalidomide, the technology is largely known. If I was in your position I would have the vaccine as it seems most logical to me, but I know others see it differently

8dpwoah · 21/05/2021 19:58

That's interesting @angeldust2810 when I went for mine last week I was asked if there was any chance of pregnancy, clearly my bump isn't as big as it feels 😂

When I said I was she asked if I wanted to speak to the doctor on duty and because I'd already spoken to the practice nurse AND the lady who booked me in double checked with a GP before doing so I was more than happy to go ahead.

There's no reason for a pregnant woman to be refused Pfizer or Moderna (obviously the patient can decline when offered a booking) but from reading a number of threads on here they do like you to have had a conversation with someone medical first. But the guidance from the NHS and RCOG is crystal clear and has been in place for a couple of weeks now.

Maybe the vaccination centre you went to was only offering AZ?

8dpwoah · 21/05/2021 20:00

@adreamofspring

Royal college of gynaecologists changed their guidance in April to say ‘you can if you want to but the decision is yours’ kind of thing. It’s based on evidence of 900,000 PG women in USA who had either Pfizer or moderna. Antenatal clinic also say that you have to book through your GP. I’m 29 weeks PG and when I try and arrange a vaccine through my GO there is no way for me to tell whether it will be Pfizer or AZ. Im weighing things up but if anyone’s managed to navigate that particular lack of joined up ness hurdle then I’m thinking I might get it.
If you are in UK (maybe just England? I'm not sure) and under 40 you should be offered an appointment for Pfizer or Moderna now, pregnant or not. I was worried about navigating that too but when they ruled out AZ for under 40s that solved it for me 🙂 I just had to wait to be called with my age bracket from the GP.
RefuseTheLies · 21/05/2021 20:11

I'm 3rd trimester and had first dose of Pfizer last week. I had no issues and am booked to have 2nd dose before my due date. There's plenty of data coming out of the US confirming its safe use in pregnancy.

mamamalt · 21/05/2021 20:12

I'm 21 weeks and got my invite from my GP last week. I didn't get it as had my whopping cough vaccine on Monday and didn't fancy a double whammy but I am booking in for next week.
My very wise friend sent me this www.rcog.org.uk/en/guidelines-research-services/coronavirus-covid-19-pregnancy-and-womens-health/covid-19-vaccines-and-pregnancy/covid-19-vaccines-pregnancy-and-breastfeeding/

Hilarias · 21/05/2021 21:05

Yep, my best friend had the vaccine when 7 months pregnant and has a healthy and beautiful 2 month old now.

Fuzzyspringroll · 21/05/2021 21:19

I'm ttc at the moment and having spoken to my doctor, she was absolutely fine with me getting the vaccine. Quite frankly, I'm too old to wait for studies and data.
I'm abroad, though, and pregnant women here generally do not get vaccinated at the moment. I wasn't pregnant when I had my first jab. I was, however, pregnant when I got my second. Now, the only reason they let me have it was because it was ectopic and I was going in to have it removed that week anyway. Both the doctors at the hospital and my gynaecologist had no issue with me getting the vaccine, though. The fertility clinic we have now been referred to have no issue with it. They seemed a lot happier about the idea of me being vaccinated, particularly if there was the chance of me having to stay at hospital.
(It being ectopic had nothing to do with the vaccine. It was my fourth ectopic pregnancy because one of my tubes was just knackered. I'm amazed the egg had made it as far as it did.)

If you are worried and young enough, you could just wait for a little bit. Either have the vaccine now and wait to ttc or ttc now and don't get vaccinated yet. I would still have gone in for my second jab, even if it had been a successful pregnancy. I probably would have waited until the end of the first trimester...but that's just me.

EdgeOfACoin · 21/05/2021 21:37

Thalidomide was not properly tested before it was released to the public. By that I mean it was never tested on animals. The moment it was given to pregnant rabbits, problems showed up straightaway.

It was never licensed for use in the US because of the lack of testing.

The covid vaccine has been released quicker than most, but from my understanding it isn't the testing part that has been short-circuited, it's the time that researchers normally spend getting funding etc.

I am 18 weeks pregnant and had the first Pfizer jab on Wednesday. To me, the known risk of contracting covid while pregnant outweighs the hypothetical risk of the vaccine to the baby.

It's a difficult decision to make and people will come to different conclusions. I just wanted to explain why it is different to the situation with thalidomide.

lilymty · 21/05/2021 21:47

I had it in pregnancy & my daughter is now 4 weeks old. No problems so far.

Angeldust2810 · 21/05/2021 22:08

I’m in Manchester and went to Sportscity.

Namechangeme1 · 21/05/2021 22:56

I understand the vaccine is different to Thalidomide but the concept remains the same - people were advised to take something supposed to help them and it ended badly.

The point is problems could show up many years into the future, babies could develop behavioural issues or anything we just cannot say for sure this vaccine is ok for unborn babies IMO

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Breakfastofmilk · 21/05/2021 23:10

You can't say that the mother getting COVID while pregnant is won't have long term effects on the baby so unless you're able to 100% quarantine at home for the entire pregnancy you need to choose between risk from the vaccine, risk from COVID or waiting to TTC until you feel safer.

Those are your choices, there is no secret magic option that guarantees your baby will never face any harm or illness ever in their life.

Thalidomide happened 60 years ago. At the time antibiotics were a recent discovery and oral contraceptives were only just becoming available. A massive amount had changed in medicine and the way trials are carried out since then, partly because of the lessons learned from thalidomide.

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