To ask if anyone had the vaccine in pregnancy and has now given birth to a healthy baby?

[Namechangeme1]

I haven't met anyone IRL that had vaccine whilst TTC or pregnant that has now given birth and it's making me really worried to get the vaccine.

Thalidomide scandal makes me more worried as does the conflicting advice it there - and I'm just extremely worried about this.

I'm booked in This week for my vaccine and also TTC

Has anyone had the vaccine and a safe delivery?

I had AstraZeneca at 3 or 4 weeks pregnant (I didn't know) and miscarried at 10 weeks. No idea if there was a connection.

I know I’ll get shot down for saying this but I don’t care - I wouldn’t. There is no reliable data on how safe the vaccine is in pregnancy/for the unborn child, how can there be when it hasn’t even been available for nine months? I would also worry about future fertility/pregnancy. However, this is MY opinion and everyone has to do their own risk assessment and decide what risks they are comfortable taking.

@Caffeinatedmonstergirl

I know I’ll get shot down for saying this but I don’t care - I wouldn’t. There is no reliable data on how safe the vaccine is in pregnancy/for the unborn child, how can there be when it hasn’t even been available for nine months? I would also worry about future fertility/pregnancy. However, this is MY opinion and everyone has to do their own risk assessment and decide what risks they are comfortable taking.

I agree and everyone I have spoken to in real life has as well.

@huuuuunnnndderrricks how long would you wait post vaccine? I'm 35 so feel like I really don't have time to waste

I really don't know what to do for the best

Tricky to answer but if it were me I would have a baby then get the vaccine . Have you started trying yet?

@huuuuunnnndderrricks yes though currently on my period first two cycles were unsuccessful

There’s quite a lot of cross people on here when women express reticence. As someone who is 30 weeks PG I’ve been following the RCOG guidance for PG women on vaccine for 6 months and they only changed it 3 weeks ago from ‘not recommended’ to ‘recommended for higher risk women’ to ‘you can get it if you want it. Discuss with your healthcare practitioner.’

It’s hard to make the shift in your head from being told it’s not advised to then think it’s all fine let’s go for it in the space of a few weeks when it’s not just your own health your responsible for. That’s just me anyway. I’ll probably get it once I’ve had a chat with a healthcare professional that gives it to me straight and doesn’t sit on the fence (which was my experience the last time it came up with MW).

I had the Pfizer vaccine (1st dose) at the end of January whilst TTC. I was unsure at first but I would rather be protected to some extent than risk Covid. I am also an NHS frontline worker so I have potential exposure to Covid every day.

I am now 9 weeks pregnant and deliberating having my 2nd dose (the dose was due to be given the week after I found out I was pregnant so I cancelled) if I do have it I will wait until I am over 12 weeks as a minimum and after discussion with my midwife and GP.

Obviously the vaccine did not affect my fertility. We also didn’t stop TTC after I was vaccinated as this guidance had changed and there is no need to wait.

@adreamofspring

There’s quite a lot of cross people on here when women express reticence. As someone who is 30 weeks PG I’ve been following the RCOG guidance for PG women on vaccine for 6 months and they only changed it 3 weeks ago from ‘not recommended’ to ‘recommended for higher risk women’ to ‘you can get it if you want it. Discuss with your healthcare practitioner.’

It’s hard to make the shift in your head from being told it’s not advised to then think it’s all fine let’s go for it in the space of a few weeks when it’s not just your own health your responsible for. That’s just me anyway. I’ll probably get it once I’ve had a chat with a healthcare professional that gives it to me straight and doesn’t sit on the fence (which was my experience the last time it came up with MW).

Exactly this is how I feel. Agree completely

@Angeldust2810

I had first dose of Moderna yesterday. Nurse asked if I was pregnant which I’m not but she said would have been refused it if I was.

That was incredibly unprofessional of her!

I had my second dose of AZ last week and was asked if TTC (I had a baby last year so I'm not), and I was told to hold off for a bit if we were planning on TTC, but not sure if that advice is just for AZ with the blood clot risk.

@FlowerTink

I had my second dose of AZ last week and was asked if TTC (I had a baby last year so I'm not), and I was told to hold off for a bit if we were planning on TTC, but not sure if that advice is just for AZ with the blood clot risk.

See why is there so much conflicting advice. The whole thing is ridiculous

@Namechangeme1

I'm perhaps being irrational but can't help it!

There's obviously some urgency in your desire to conceive. But could it really not wait for four weeks so you can have your first vaccination and then the second when you feel you're past the initial 'limb and organ forming' stage?

The resulting protection would save you potentially being in the situation of Grace Victory where she eventually (and considering just how desperately ill she was, miraculously) woke up to a three month old baby. Or any of the women who have died after contracting Covid during pregnancy.

I've had mine.

I can't recommend this enough. Stella Creasy MP hosted a live webinar with Pregnant then Screwed in April after the rules changed on vaccination in pregnancy. They had a panel of experts from the RCOG. If you can find it then you can see what they have to say and make an informed choice. I attended and they specifically talked about the false comparison to the thalidomide tragedy.

I had mine this week at 28/29 weeks pregnant. When you book through the online link the system asks if you are pregnant and will only provide the option to select appointments at vaccination centre that offer the pregnancy recommended jabs.

@Caffeinatedmonstergirl

I know I’ll get shot down for saying this but I don’t care - I wouldn’t. There is no reliable data on how safe the vaccine is in pregnancy/for the unborn child, how can there be when it hasn’t even been available for nine months? I would also worry about future fertility/pregnancy. However, this is MY opinion and everyone has to do their own risk assessment and decide what risks they are comfortable taking.

@Caffeinatedmonstergirl I’m interested as to how you did a risk assessment on your future fertility via taking vaccine? Exactly through what mechanised do you expect the vaccine to cause severe DOR?

My friend has. She had a private c-section (not in the UK) and her surgeon required her to have both jabs before her c-section. She had a healthy baby.

I work in infectious diseases research (some of my colleagues involved in the AZ trials). The reality is that we don't know what the long-term effects of any vaccine will be. The COVID one is no different than any other. No vaccines are tested on pregnant women in development trials as a matter of course. We only find out really how they impact on pregnancy through community use. COVID is no different than the MMR or the Tdap or the flu jab in that sense, so no less risky than any of those. We do know though that there can be long-term effects from COVID acquired in pregnancy. So on the balance of risk, it's sensible to have the jab. An unknown risk is probably better than a known one. I'm not pregnant, but if I was, I would be running, not walking, to get my jab personally, if that's at all reassuring.

@ForeverAintEnough12

Look up Dr Charles Hoffe online - he has some interesting observations both on Covid vaccine safety generally as well as potential links between the vaccine and future miscarriage. I wouldn’t chance it, personally. As I said, this is MY opinion which I believe I am still allowed to have. Obviously it won’t be a popular one as it doesn’t fit the rhetoric of the vaccine being perfectly safe. Remember that a few weeks ago AZ was still being touted as safe for all age groups, yet now it is no longer recommended for under 40s.

Yes please do look up Charles Hoffe online. A simple google will do.

I really do wonder how hard people have to search to find medical professionals like that online spouting rubbish (proven) and take that as gospel while ignoring all of the actual evidence and facts and figures which totally obliterate any argument they have.

Oh well now some random GP has written a letter (about impacts of the vaccination on people in general so not even specifically to do with pregnancy, or long term effects on babies) I'll obviously ignore all the data that's been collate run order to change national guidelines. Because obviously the NHS and RCOG want to run the risk of massive lawsuits in future just on the off chance.

When he's got a peer reviewed published study about it I might be a bit more interested.

People need to make their own choice to deviate from national guidance, yes, but at least either do it from the heart ("i don't know why, but") or from accredited evidence, not some vaguely relate random which is just irresponsible to post on a public forum where people are actually looking for good quality information to help them make what could be a difficult decision.

@Caffeinatedmonstergirl has dr Charles hoffe established the trade off between potential miscarriage due to the vaccine and actual still births occurring from women who get covid? I couldn’t see any analysis of this in his letter. Why are you taking the views of a man who maintains vaccines are more dangerous than actual covid?

I sincerely hope you have a safe pregnancy and are not one of those poor women whose babies died due to covid in the mother but it’s very remiss of you to take the word of a man whose views have been debunked as fake over safeguarding your future child.

[quote ForeverAintEnough12]**@Caffeinatedmonstergirl* has dr Charles hoffe established the trade off between potential miscarriage due to the vaccine and actual* still births occurring from women who get covid? I couldn’t see any analysis of this in his letter. Why are you taking the views of a man who maintains vaccines are more dangerous than actual covid?

I sincerely hope you have a safe pregnancy and are not one of those poor women whose babies died due to covid in the mother but it’s very remiss of you to take the word of a man whose views have been debunked as fake over safeguarding your future child.[/quote]
He is not saying vaccines are more dangerous than Covid generally, he is talking about how they have affected his local community disproportionately compared to Covid which has barely touched them.

I don’t know where I inferred I am pregnant in my posts, I am not. I did struggle to conceive my daughter though and have also had a late first trimester miscarriage, so I think I can be forgiven for wanting to avoid anything that could jeopardise my chances of future pregnancy.

It is worth noting that I am now aware of MANY people - friends/colleagues/clients of friends, local mums - who have had an adverse reaction to the AZ vaccine. One local mum had a blood clot within 24 hours. As far as I am concerned these vaccines are poison and I would never take the risk of having one whilst pregnant. If vaccines such as AZ and Moderna can cause a blood clot in an adult then what effect could they have on a developing foetus, even longer-term and not necessarily evident immediately through miscarriage.

Why would anyone risk it?

I think there is a big difference between having the jab at the end of a pregnancy and at the beginning on a developing foetus . My son had a gentic condition which happened when the egg splits in early pregnancy . No one knows why , just one of those things but I def wouldn't have the vaccine whilst pregnant and I've had both of mine so I'm not anti per se .