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Critical bloody thinking!!

112 replies

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 21/05/2021 13:26

I am so sick of this phrase being thrown about whenever posters are discussing rules not applying to them. That’s all it translates as: I don’t want to follow that rule and I am far superior to all you sheep blindly following the rules!

Every time I see it, I get irrationally cross. I know IABU to get so annoyed about it.

Anyone else get annoyed at this or another constantly used MN phrase?

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Sparklingbrook · 21/05/2021 14:18

Oh yes I got told to do some critical thinking on here last week. It was quite funny, can’t remember my crime.

Another Covid one is ‘modelling’ but not in the Kate Moss sense. Hmm

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 21/05/2021 14:19

@AnotherOneFightsTheRust

Do you think it's OK to think critically if you don't say that's what you're doing? - I guess that's what I'm asking.
Think critically by all means. Tell the world that’s what you’re doing if you like. I’ll just sit here and grumble about how smug it comes across.
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BeingATwatItsABingThing · 21/05/2021 14:21

@Sparklingbrook

‘Model’ just makes me think of work. I’m a teacher so ‘model’ the learning all the time. I’d rather not think about work at home though.

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AnotherOneFightsTheRust · 21/05/2021 14:22

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DioneTheDiabolist · 21/05/2021 14:23

Critical Thinking is brilliant. However most posters here use it to be patronising or to confirm an already held bias.Confused

Sparklingbrook · 21/05/2021 14:23

[quote BeingATwatItsABingThing]@Sparklingbrook

‘Model’ just makes me think of work. I’m a teacher so ‘model’ the learning all the time. I’d rather not think about work at home though.[/quote]
Ah the Covid modelling is all about studying graphs I think. Grin

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 21/05/2021 14:23

@AnotherOneFightsTheRust

But if you found out that someone had made a decision via critical thinking techniques (but hadn't said a word about it to anyone) - would you consider them 'smug'?
Nope. The not feeling the need to tell everyone about it means they’re not smug.
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Sparklingbrook · 21/05/2021 14:24

Haven’t seen ‘under thinking’ on here for a while. As an insult.

j712adrian · 21/05/2021 14:24

@Reallybadidea

'Do your own research'. Annoying yet also handy for identifying tin-foil hat conspiracy theorists/armchair experts.
THIS

where "research" means looking at the Mail or Express websites

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 21/05/2021 14:25

Ah the Covid modelling is all about studying graphs I think.

Oh god! Snooze fest!!! I’ll leave someone else to study the graphs and tell me, succinctly, what they show. Wink

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babbaloushka · 21/05/2021 14:26

Yes, quite. I am also capable of critical thinking and have employed those skills when accepting my vaccine appointment. They're not special for having watched one YouTube video and read a FaceBook status. I would hope that my Masters in BioChem would have equipped me with the skills necessary to make an informed decision, but of course not, I'm just another sheep indoctrinated by the liberal Universities...

babbaloushka · 21/05/2021 14:27

@Sparklingbrook

Oh yes I got told to do some critical thinking on here last week. It was quite funny, can’t remember my crime.

Another Covid one is ‘modelling’ but not in the Kate Moss sense. Hmm

Grin
BeingATwatItsABingThing · 21/05/2021 14:29

@babbaloushka

Yes, quite. I am also capable of critical thinking and have employed those skills when accepting my vaccine appointment. They're not special for having watched one YouTube video and read a FaceBook status. I would hope that my Masters in BioChem would have equipped me with the skills necessary to make an informed decision, but of course not, I'm just another sheep indoctrinated by the liberal Universities...
I’m glad you’ve realised that @babbaloushka Wink
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ScrollingLeaves · 21/05/2021 14:34

@Seriouslymole
“And, finally, the very passive, aggressive HTH at the end of a post.”

What is HTH, please?

btwwhichonespink · 21/05/2021 14:35

I agree, but in reverse. It is used on anyone who doesn't want to have the vaccine, for example. They are accused of lack of education and critical thinking skills, when in my experience, the very opposite is true.

I don't say it out loud, but I think people going blindly along with everything, and worse, believing everything they see on the telly (terrifying new variants, for example) are at the very least not exercising critical thinking skills, if they have any.

babbaloushka · 21/05/2021 14:36

@Reallybadidea

'Do your own research'. Annoying yet also handy for identifying tin-foil hat conspiracy theorists/armchair experts.
God I hate this. I find it invalidates the credibility of actual research, because they don't mean write a fully referenced, accredited research paper, they mean read an article about how COVID swabs cause cancer to affirm their own biases. It took me 6 months of lab work, data analysis and statistical modelling to do my uni diss, and that's small fry in the pharmaceutical world.

On a separate but humorous note, my DD had a course mate tell her that it was wrong to "gatekeep" research as it was "elitist" and a sign of her privilege, apparently all research is valid Hmm

HeyDemonsItsYaGirl · 21/05/2021 14:36

"I wouldn't dream of..."

Fuck off, smug twat.

DynamoKev · 21/05/2021 14:37

I started a thread about this phrase a while back as I feel it means very different things to different people, and it seems mainly to be used to sneer at people who don't agree with someone else's opinion.

HeyDemonsItsYaGirl · 21/05/2021 14:37

What is HTH, please?

Hope that helps.

Thymeout · 21/05/2021 14:37

Well I've used my powers of critical thinking to self-impose stricter rules than the Govt was proposing at least twice - in the Autumn, when the Kent variant arrived and, specifically, in the run-up to Xmas. When BJ was saying it would be inhumane to cancel Xmas, I was telling my family that I was sorry but it would be better if I stayed home and they celebrated without me.

I doubt if I was the only one. What does that make us?

btwwhichonespink · 21/05/2021 14:37

@babbaloushka

Yes, quite. I am also capable of critical thinking and have employed those skills when accepting my vaccine appointment. They're not special for having watched one YouTube video and read a FaceBook status. I would hope that my Masters in BioChem would have equipped me with the skills necessary to make an informed decision, but of course not, I'm just another sheep indoctrinated by the liberal Universities...
As long as you don't criticise those who don't reach the same conclusion as you or think they are unqualified to make that personal decision because they don't have a 'Masters in BioChem' then there is no problem.
DynamoKev · 21/05/2021 14:38

[quote ScrollingLeaves]@Seriouslymole
“And, finally, the very passive, aggressive HTH at the end of a post.”

What is HTH, please?[/quote]
HTH

  • Hope this helps
babbaloushka · 21/05/2021 14:39

@btwwhichonespink

I agree, but in reverse. It is used on anyone who doesn't want to have the vaccine, for example. They are accused of lack of education and critical thinking skills, when in my experience, the very opposite is true.

I don't say it out loud, but I think people going blindly along with everything, and worse, believing everything they see on the telly (terrifying new variants, for example) are at the very least not exercising critical thinking skills, if they have any.

I found this very interesting when considering vaccine refusal, I think compliance with guidelines is confused with blind submission, when I really don't think that is the case. Part of it seems to stem from a humility in understanding that your "opinion" is inferior to that of the experts, due to the absolute disparity in understanding and experience in the field.

news.usc.edu/182848/education-covid-19-vaccine-safety-risks-usc-study/

DynamoKev · 21/05/2021 14:41

@btwwhichonespink

I agree, but in reverse. It is used on anyone who doesn't want to have the vaccine, for example. They are accused of lack of education and critical thinking skills, when in my experience, the very opposite is true.

I don't say it out loud, but I think people going blindly along with everything, and worse, believing everything they see on the telly (terrifying new variants, for example) are at the very least not exercising critical thinking skills, if they have any.

Its not just the vaccine - on MN anyone who voted leave apparently did so due to inferior education and "critical thinking skills", as anyone with a good education and critical thinking skills would obviously have voted remain.
ScrollingLeaves · 21/05/2021 14:41

“DynamoKev“
Thanking for explaining HTH.