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Dad's wife answering his messages pretending to be him

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BeatieBourke · 20/05/2021 20:55

Bare with me, this is convoluted and sounds a bit weird. Which it is.

My mum died, very suddenly and unexpectedly, 10 years ago. She and my Dad met when they were teens and had been married 39 years. He was understandably completely bereft and dealt with it very badly. He's still traumatised by it, still cries most days, and has been a shadow of the man he was ever since. My siblings and I have all tried all sorts over the years, but he's sort of "stuck".

Despite this, and to the surprise of everyone, he got married again a few years ago. His wife is very nice, but is twenty years his junior and from a very different background. They met on holiday (she isn't from this country), got married very quickly and she now lives in this country with him. She has a very successful career in a job that requires a great deal of dedication and years of training and qualifications. She has plenty of her own money (my dad is basically skint). They obviously love each other but the relationship is quite strange. I can't really explain it.

Dad has been depressed for years. Covid hasn't helped. He recently had a health scare, related to his total lack of self care, which has made his mental state worse still.

A few days ago his dog died. It was actually my mum's dog, but they were very attached to each other. My Dad had to have her put down and it completely shattered him. I think it has retraumatised him about my mums death (we had to turn the life support machine off). I know losing a dog is awful - I adore my dog! But the level of distress he is showing is not normal. I think its not really about the dog.

He is refusing to see or speak to anyone. He says he wants to be left alone. We're all worried. Among other things, his wife has to go away to sit some exams next week and he will be alone. We're all very concerned that he won't eat/sleep/wash (a pattern we've had before) or worse.

So, I've been messaging him each day, just to say "I know you don't want to see anyone, I'm just letting you know we love you, if you find you don't want to be alone you're always welcome here" etc.

I got a reply last night which reads like it's from him, but it doesn't sound like him at all. I've asked my siblings and we all agree his wife wrote it. It doesn't say "Hi this is X as dad isn't up to replying to messages atm", she is just straight up pretending to be him.

Am I wrong to think this is just fucking weird??! I don't know what to make of it. It's making an already very difficult and worrying situation worse. Now I feel like I can't contact my dad because I won't know if it's him I'm speaking to or not! I just can't get my head around it.

For info, I live at the other end of the country and have had most of this information relayed by a sibling. Young children etc means I can't just drop things and go to his, and I don't know if he'd want me there anyway.

I'm at a loss as to how to deal with this.

OP posts:
Thewinterofdiscontent · 20/05/2021 22:44

Just say is it “whoever” this doesn’t sound like you dad.

Brainwave89 · 20/05/2021 22:44

Hi OP, had a cousin who for a while suffered quite badly from depression. One of the manifestations was to panic about communicating with anyone who called or texted. She felt overwhelmed by responding and anxious about not responding for fear of offending. It became obvious after a while that her partner was at her request responding. Could this be what is happening here?

RhubarbCustardy · 20/05/2021 22:50

Must be hard for his new wife living with him for all that time with depression. Maybe he's asked her to reply or she's suggested that she reply on his behalf as maybe he's not motivated due to his mental state. I think I'd ring to speak to her about your concerns. She might be glad to hear from you esp if you maybe show understanding of how it must be for her. Sorry that you're going through this being so far away.

rach2713 · 20/05/2021 22:58

Could you not set up a group chat with all of you in it that way your dad doesn't feell like he's getting the same message more than once and his wife can be in it as well so you would know she write a reply..

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 20/05/2021 23:06

@PinkSatinMoon

Trust your instincts ALWAYS..

if something feels off then something is off...

Go round there... or have the GP or social work to do a visit.

🌸

Social workers and GPs are not going to visit because a man's wife answered one text message for him, FFS.
PinkSatinMoon · 20/05/2021 23:34

Social workers and GPs are not going to visit because a man's wife answered one text message for him, FFS.

If OP has a genuine concern about the well being of her Father, she most certainly can phone his GP or Social Services... or the Police.

BeatieBourke · 20/05/2021 23:34

Just for the record:

I don't think there's any I'll intent on anyone's part, I just think it's...odd.

I like my stepmother and have no problem with the fact my dad married her. I'm really glad he has someone in his.lofe and isn't alone. Do I get how their relationship works? No. Is that any of my business? Also no.

And to the person who thinks I have 'invented' that he's never dealt with my mums death and is still devastated by it, thank you for your insight but you are wrong. I'd rather he was happy with his new life. He has told me, numerous time and recently, that he still thinks about mum and cries every day. We are close and I know him quite well. And I'm not selfish enough to want him to be miserable to suit my own ends.

OP posts:
PinkSatinMoon · 20/05/2021 23:41

@BeatieBourke

Just for the record:

I don't think there's any I'll intent on anyone's part, I just think it's...odd.

I like my stepmother and have no problem with the fact my dad married her. I'm really glad he has someone in his.lofe and isn't alone. Do I get how their relationship works? No. Is that any of my business? Also no.

And to the person who thinks I have 'invented' that he's never dealt with my mums death and is still devastated by it, thank you for your insight but you are wrong. I'd rather he was happy with his new life. He has told me, numerous time and recently, that he still thinks about mum and cries every day. We are close and I know him quite well. And I'm not selfish enough to want him to be miserable to suit my own ends.

you sound a very kind loyal and decent person OP. 🌸

EmeraldShamrock · 20/05/2021 23:42

siblings has spoken to her and been through this, so I feel like I'd be asking her to repeat herself to each of us. We have a little plan between us all.
If siblings have spoken to her, why do you need too? You know he doesn't want to communicate personally I don't see the big deal with her replying.
What's the plan? Some flowers and chocolates a bit of respite for the woman dealing with his depression daily.
If you suspect something sinister visit or help, most in the home carer abuse is a result of stressful circumstances.

Summerfun54321 · 20/05/2021 23:44

Being blunt it sounds like you’re panicking. He’s lucky that he has met someone despite his depression and even if she replies to his messages, the fact she’s there with him takes a huge caring burden off of the rest of your family. If you start accusing her of things you could cause more harm than good to her and your dad. Unless you can visit face to face and see him and talk to her to work out what’s going on, there’s not much you can do.

Giantrooster · 20/05/2021 23:50

I think instead of thinking this is weird and making cunning plans with your siblings, you should count yourselves lucky she is picking up your df. It doesn't sound like a walk in the park. If it wasn't for her and her care, you and your siblings would perhaps be the ones having to be there for him all day every day.

And so what if she answered for him? My bet is he said 'sod my dc needing contact, I don't want to, cba' and from the perspective of being kind, she answered you, to reassure you, to make you feel better. Perhaps she should have stated it was on behalf of your df, perhaps it's different where she comes from, but she is probably stressed and worried sick about him too, being the one there and the one caring for him.

Actually i think it is odd this is what you care about given the circumstances. Care about you df or offer to help her.

BeatieBourke · 20/05/2021 23:56

Hey Giantrooster. 👋 Maybe read the thread? I am very aware of all you've said.

OP posts:
ThursdayWeld · 20/05/2021 23:58

We, as a small family, were absolutely shattered and bereft when our dog died. Nothing to do with anybody else's death.

Leave him alone to grieve as he wants. Stop hassling him, and her.

Giantrooster · 21/05/2021 00:10

@BeatieBourke

Hey Giantrooster. 👋 Maybe read the thread? I am very aware of all you've said.
And I have. But still this is the problem you present.
Faevern · 21/05/2021 06:46

What @Giantrooster said, if you’re well aware then why the thread?

Yes she could have said it’s me here, but she is bearing the burden of supporting your father, and you make him sound extremely difficult, so perhaps she’s a bit stressed and is doing what she can. Why not just communicate with his wife instead of making it all about one text?

TheWitchersWife · 21/05/2021 07:28

My husband has severe depression, sometimes worse than others, it's up and downs but never not there.
He constantly talks about suicide, occasionally self harms and generally plans to not be here in the next 5 years.
It is heartbreaking and he shows this side to me more than anyone else.
He has family that text him and he just hasn't got the energy to text them back, but doesn't want to reveal the extent of his depression so will ask me to respond for him. Which I do, as its what he's asked of me and his feelings are my priority.
I have to do all life admin including all correspondes to family on both sides.
So while it might look weird from the outside, he just would not reply to other people's messages at all if it was up to him.
It's an extra job on my plate that I do to keep everyone happy, but I don't want to have to say, to every single text he gets "hi, this is witchers wife, DH is having a bad day again. Sorry".
Because its been a while since there was a good day and then he'd feel even worse about worrying people who care about him, and he doesn't need any more self guilt and hate right now.

BeatieBourke · 21/05/2021 09:18

TheWitchersWife, thank you for describing your situation and I'm sorry to hear that life is so difficult at the moment. This sounds very similar to my dad's situation and I can see more clearly how this might have come about.

I guess, as another poster said, I was panicking a bit. I can't visit, didn't want to call and appear to be bothering him, so a couple of "just to say, I love you" texts seemed the best way to let him know that we are here for him, and just do something.

I think I just felt that I couldn't have a true idea of how good or bad things were if, thinking inwas speaking to him, I was actually speaking to her. It was quite emotional stuff, and I replied to the text I think she wrote before it clicked that it was probably her that wrote it, and then I just felt weird that I thought I was having this heart to heart with my dad, but it turned out I wasn't.

He's got in touch this.morning and sounds a bit more like himself, which is reassuring. I'm going to send a card to his wife to say thank you for taking such good care of our dad, and good luck in her exams. And then I guess I have to acknowledge there's not much else I can do right now.

Thanks again.

OP posts:
Chillychili · 21/05/2021 09:25

I am always texting/writing emails for my partner. This includes texting his mum. I agree with other PP he has asked for space which you aren’t giving him.

I recently has a baby, everyday my mum text ‘hope you had a settled night’ it upset me because I haven’t had more than 3 hours sleep in 8 months and it just reminded me. So although your texts are nice and well meaning they may be upsetting him more.

Nopenopenopenooooo · 21/05/2021 09:35

I’ve replied for my DH when he’s asked me to, usually though it’s if he’s driving or in the middle of toddler wrangling. Just go see him.

Nopenopenopenooooo · 21/05/2021 09:37

Ah sorry didn’t see update, glad he’s sounding a bit better!

shivawn · 21/05/2021 09:40

Yeah bit weird. When my husband is driving he sometimes asks me to check and reply to his messages though, just something basic like "on the way" or "driving now, I'll call you later". Maybe he just asked her to reply if he didn't feel up to it.

gulliblestravels · 21/05/2021 09:55

I feel OP that you yourself are still grieving the loss of your mother, and feeling that your dad is too somehow brings some comfort. But there is something of not letting go, or moving on in terms of ‘family units’ which is evident in your writing and the use of possessive terms like when you mention your SM joining ‘our family’, and looking after ‘our dad’, and ‘we have a plan’: you are positioning her as an outsider. Perhaps it is because of your perception of her this way that has upset you, regarding the text exchange, that a ‘stranger’ has intercepted an intimate message, but even here you contradict yourself, as you’d first said it was a simple ‘hope you are ok, I love you’ text, but go on to describe your dismay at corresponding with her in a ‘heart-to-heart’.

I feel for you, and your feelings of what sounds like abandonment and loss, and it is completely understandable that you feel as you do.

greenlynx · 21/05/2021 10:07

Glad your Dad was in touch. My Dad cried when their dog died and was very upset and he’s very tough and non emotional. It’s getting different with age.
By the way I often txt and email on behalf of DH. Sometimes he’s doing something and it’s quicker for me because my phone is better. I send MIL photos of DD with a bit of text pretending to be him, it’s just simpler.

You’ve mentioned that his wife is very different and from different country so it might be a bit of cultural problem. She tried to be helpful and did what she presumed was the best from her point of view.

BeatieBourke · 21/05/2021 10:10

Ouch. Yeah, there's probably some truth in that.

Believe me, I'd really rather my dad was happy as Larry rather than the way he is. I'm not constructing his grief as a comfort in my own.

But, I do feel a bit intruded upon, and I suppose I do think of her as outside our family unit. It's not intentional, it's just how I feel. We were a family, my mum was at the centre of it, then we all went through this harrowing experience and supported each other through it. And that's part of our identity as a family now. So while I have no desire to make her feel like an outsider, I don't think she'll ever really feel part of our family unit either, because it's so defined by the loss of our mum, which she never experienced.

Maybe we're all a bit "stuck". No great surprise, perhaps, given the sudden and traumatic nature of mums death. But what you've said has given me pause for thought. I think I need to work on the relationship with my dad's wife.

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Thatisnotwhatisaid · 21/05/2021 10:17

Perhaps she knew he wouldn’t respond so did it for him out of kindness towards you? She didn’t want you to feel ignored so pretended to be him so you’d feel slightly better about the situation. I’m not sure, you say you don’t dislike her and she isn’t a bad person so it doesn’t sound like she had sinister intentions.