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To ask anyone who voted for Brexit to pay my import duty

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Saddlesore · 17/05/2021 19:17

I ordered a household item online and paid no attention as to where it was coming from (because I never did before). It turned out it was being shipped from Germany and I have to pay import duty and fees to receive it. WTAF!
I’m just having a rant because I fail to see how our lives have improved after Brexit - and don’t get me started on what my relatives in NI are having to endure. And no, Brexit did not deliver a triumph to the UK on vaccines because we would have been just as free to negotiate their delivery to us within the EU.

So, for anyone who voted for Brexit, have your lives really improved and are you happy that UK consumers now have fewer choices and more expensive ones at that?

So, while this is rather tongue in cheek, here goes:

Yes - YABU to want Brexit voters to pay your import fees
No - YANBU to want Brexit voters to pay your import fees

OP posts:
SchrodingersImmigrant · 17/05/2021 22:39

@cuparfull

Buy British! It's about time we started supporting our own economy.
BRITAIN DOESN'T MAKE EVERYTHING

For those who keep missing that.

NotImpossible · 17/05/2021 22:40

Turnip is nice.

Was the rest of your post meant to be aimed at me @miljea ? I agree, but I'm not sure you quoted the correct post... ?

Miljea · 17/05/2021 22:41

@FOJN

And shipped from germany, if I am not mistaken...

Yes, at £19.95, a saving of £13.05 if I'm not mistaken........

I'm exiting this, now - but.... I used to pay £15ish for a glass chimney from Germany. No one, and, please understand, no one does this in the UK. So, for me to get this product, now costs me £33.

(I can't carve a turnip to replace the missing chimneys. Sorry.)

That's a more than 100% price increase.
Why is that so very hard to understand? How hard of thinking do you need to be to not see that as a loss?

Or, perhaps that should refer back to my previous post about coming to terms with the low level of public education in the UK, the deficit in critical thinking skills.

Miljea · 17/05/2021 22:49

@cuparfull

Buy British! It's about time we started supporting our own economy.
OK. Here's a challenge. Support British. Not as a stupid slogan, but as a real life exercise.

I need a glass chimney for an oil lamp. The base needs to be no less than 46mm wide, and no more than 48mm. Those are my tolerances.

Please find me a 'British company' who can meet that. Please, really! -do.

I used to be able to call upon the EU to meet that- along with 44-46mm. 41-43mm. Cost me £15 to import.

Bear in mind, it's a hobby cost, not a business.

They now cost at least £33.

You can go either way here: you can express or infer that you feel any 'British' hobby shouldn't have to involve importing ordinary stuff, therefore it's 'wanky' or whatever.

Or you can insist I can source what I need in the UK. Where? Or £90 'specialist'. Because I should be prepared to pay for British workmanship.

Or I can mangle turnips as a hobby.

Saddlesore · 17/05/2021 22:49

Ok, so what I’ve learned since starting this thread is this:

  1. Just because a website is co.uk that doesn’t mean that it’s necessarily shipping within UK and items might be subject to import duty. Trying to find this info will add about 2 hours a week to my online habit.
  1. A household item from a German designer can quickly morph into an €800 painting from Italy. Or Bulgaria.
  1. We should all eat more turnips.
OP posts:
Miljea · 17/05/2021 22:52

saddlesore now you're turning on the turnips! 😂

SchrodingersImmigrant · 17/05/2021 22:52

@Miljea weren't turnips originally used for lanterns before pumpkins?
They should hold up on the lamp for a bit then😂

HalzTangz · 17/05/2021 22:59

@Gymsmile21

This is the millionth post about it from you.

Grow up!

Maybe you should do a basic username search, this is first post she has made on the subject. Her item is from Germany not the Italian painting from another post by a completely different OP
YouBringLightInToADarkPlace · 17/05/2021 23:01

I mean, I voted remain but I can see how it would annoy you... that said, I managed to get some lovely Swedish kids' clothes in a sale and got free shipping BECAUSE we weren't in the E.U....
Life gives you lemons and all that 🤷‍♀️

Fuckingcrustybread · 17/05/2021 23:14

@Miljea
Or, perhaps that should refer back to my previous post about coming to terms with the low level of public education in the UK, the deficit in critical thinking skills
There are quite a few comments I would like to make but I'm not actually as offensive as you are.
Other Countries are available.

Pinchoftums · 17/05/2021 23:16

I want the dicks that voted for Brexit to work out how I can live in Greece once I retire as I was planning to for the last 25 years.

Rno3gfr · 17/05/2021 23:24

You’re peddling false information. There’s no custom duty because we have a free trade deal. It was probably import VAT. The only difference is now the VAT is added on after you buy the goods instead of before. There is no extra charge. Get off your ignorant high horse and check what you’re doing next time.

Grilledaubergines · 17/05/2021 23:25

@Menoismymate

I agree with you OP, but most the people here will tell you to stop buying foreign muck and buy British!!
No one says “foreign muck” except you apparently. So stop inciting your shite and shit stirring. Disgusting you should use such a term.
Thewinterofdiscontent · 17/05/2021 23:33

The price is now higher. Brexit , the price of oil, minimum wage, interest rates... prices go high and low all the time.

Lots of people pay over the odds for stuff because it has a designer name or green credentials or they pay less because it’s made in a sweat shop of China.
Just buy an alternative or buy less of something else to afford the charges.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 17/05/2021 23:43

@Rno3gfr

You’re peddling false information. There’s no custom duty because we have a free trade deal. It was probably import VAT. The only difference is now the VAT is added on after you buy the goods instead of before. There is no extra charge. Get off your ignorant high horse and check what you’re doing next time.
It is more than VAT with items iver certain value
ATieLikeRichardGere · 18/05/2021 00:08

Sorry about the fees but thank you for the lols!

EmeraldShamrock · 18/05/2021 00:26

Buy British! It's about time we started supporting our own economy.
I'm sure the majority have always bought local if it was available at a similar cost.
Echoing pp's there are things that you just can't get.
Unfortunately people outside Britain stopped buying British and supporting the British economy because of the added import tax and delivery delays, returns are a pain too.
I was an ebay.co.uk regular I haven't bought anything since January.
DP job got all their electrical products for sale from Britain they now source from Holland.

VictoriaLudorum · 18/05/2021 00:26

Just for balance, it works the other way, too.
Ordering items from the UK has turned into a minefield.
Some sites state that duties are already paid, fair enough; some state that you are liable, again fair enough; some do not mention anything at all so you get the "nice" surprise of an e-mail asking for an extra €xx customs' charges. Some businesses no longer deliver to Europe at all and do say so on their websites.
The cost of returning items has also increased significantly.

Blacktothepink · 18/05/2021 00:27

‘Buy British’! 😂

lolacola77 · 18/05/2021 00:34

Grow up!

Giantrooster · 18/05/2021 00:35

@Blacktothepink

‘Buy British’! 😂

Hell no, I'm in EU and have stopped buying from the uk. Don't want to end up in some duty trap, but am sad not to be able to buy from you.

EmeraldShamrock · 18/05/2021 00:37

Some businesses no longer deliver to Europe at all and do say so on their websites.
Yep this made me really sad when I logged on to a much loved website to see no longer trading in Ireland. Sad

ClareBlue · 18/05/2021 00:45

@Miljea

saddlesore.

I think it it time to 'get over it', and 'move on'.

You couldn't get more ' Remain' than me!

But, the last 4-5 years have, if you like, re-educated me. I admit that I have spent about half my adult life abroad, but have been back in the UK for the last 20 (I'm late 50s); but there was a whole pile of stuff I didn't understand, but now I do.

Think about what Remainers feel they've lost. Then ask yourself if that stuff even touched the lives, or experience, of many Leavers?

The ability to move freely around the EU? What if that experience was 10 days in Spain, every other year. Do you care about that? No.

The ability to trade without tariff with the EU? If you have no understanding of where your food and goods come from, then- no.

Your belief that your country should 'make its own laws' when you have no grasp of your country's ability to make and enforce its own laws, and has done throughout its EU membership? No.

Your anger at Eastern Europeans' -taking all the jobs (on less than NMW)/ being on benefits with having no understanding that your own government could have curtailed all these practices but chose not to? No.

Exactly how I feel. Never thought issues around freedom of university exchanges or freedom to work in Paris without a visa was the highest priority for voters in Salford council estates. Instead of trying to understand why the majority were not with the European Project they were labelled and insulted. The attempt to ignore them and belittle their life experiences of competing for jobs, housing, healthcare, and over turn their vote by an educated elite, was a disgrace to democracy. Thankfully they stood firm.

But at least we now know that our liberal elite have no respect for democracy or actual liberal values.
So I have absolutely no sympathy for people paying import duty. Buy it in UK, find a reasonable alternative in UK, don't buy it, or pay the duty. Plenty of choices there, unlike the teenager leaving a failing school on a sink estate surrounded by violence and poverty.

Sorka · 18/05/2021 00:51

My labour council have spent £1.5m of taxpayers’ money replacing good quality large black bins with small flimsy ones. I and many others are deeply unhappy. Can I insist that Labour voters stump up the money for the wasteful and useless new bins?

quizqueen · 18/05/2021 01:26

The UK government was happy to negotiate a reciprocal Free Trade Deal with the EU but they are not so keen to do so, so you should be blaming the EU for import taxes, not Brexiteers.

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