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To think dark brown eyes aren’t common in white British people

329 replies

Runaway3444 · 16/05/2021 09:49

Ds1 has dark brown eyes and due to his skin tone people just assume he’s white British rather than having a Middle Eastern father. My other children have a darker skin tone so people believe them. Aibu to think most people with dark brown eyes are usually from minority ethics background.

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Selkie1961 · 16/05/2021 11:18

It depends where. As somebody said upthread, globally, most white people have brown eyes but not in a village in Ireland they don't.

CorianderBee · 16/05/2021 11:18

My dad and my boyfriend are both White British and both have dark brown eyes (even more surprising because my boyfriend is ginger).

tortoiselover100 · 16/05/2021 11:19

No white people have dark brown eyes

JemimaMuddledUp · 16/05/2021 11:19

YABU.

I'm Welsh. I have very dark brown eyes, so did my DF and so does my DS.

Namechange600 · 16/05/2021 11:19

Husbands family have history of dark brown eyes -almost black, dark hair and dark skin -they are Celtic origin! So yabu yes.

My family are all blue / green eyes
My kids are 2/3 dark brown and 1/3 green
Interesting all have lighter hair - dark blonde or light brown - than husbands dark brown hair even as they get older

MobyDicksTinyCanoe · 16/05/2021 11:19

My friends dd has almost black eyes..... Can't say I've taken much notice of eyes but have noticed on the kids school pictures that white kids with black hair are pretty rare. Most seem to be blonde or mousy brown, there's more gingers than black haired kids in my dds class

mumwon · 16/05/2021 11:19

Celts traditionally had blue eyes very white skin & blue eyes other groups Saxons & Angles may well have had red/blonde hair & blue or maybe green eyes
Historically (10 thousand years ago or so, apparently, the first Europeans had dark skin & blue eyes)
We are all thorough mixes by now - the ancient Romans often had legionnaires from all over the Empire & from memory, didn't we have some from Iberia (Spain et al)?
All the same race - human - now if we were discussing how much Neanderthal or Denisovan mix we had!

kowari · 16/05/2021 11:19

@Oblomov21

48%

While blue eyes used to be the least common colour and were seen as a rarity, 48% of the British population now have blue eyes. This is followed by green eyes at 30%, with a mere 22% of the British population having brown eyes.9 Jul 2019.

Well I never. Pictish is right.

Isn't this odd though?

That adds up to 100%, does hazel come under green or brown? Guessing green as I would not have thought green eyes were 30%!
JemimaMuddledUp · 16/05/2021 11:20

@JemimaMuddledUp

YABU.

I'm Welsh. I have very dark brown eyes, so did my DF and so does my DS.

Sorry should have said White Welsh (no assumption that Welsh people are white)
toffeebutterpopcorn · 16/05/2021 11:20

Black or very dark hair with white skin isn’t all that unusual in Scotland and Ireland.

lavenderandwisteria · 16/05/2021 11:20

I’m pretty sure I’m white!

To think dark brown eyes aren’t common in white British people
toffeebutterpopcorn · 16/05/2021 11:21

And my grandmother had wild jet black hair and very very blue eyes. We have some old photos of her (b&b obviously) as a small child and she had a very wild look about her (hair all over the place and a furious scowl).

BrumBoo · 16/05/2021 11:23

Just adding to the YABUs. I have mostly White British (Welsh) and Irish heritage, with some mix heritage on one side great-grandparents. I also have naturally very dark hair and eyes, and a parent who was often asked if mixed race. It's Celtic genes more than anything, they come through very strongly usually. Which is why I'm still confused at having one very blonde child Grin.

CatbearAmo · 16/05/2021 11:25

My dad and brother have several SE Asian features. Eye shape and color, tanned, and very tanned after spending time in the sun. My brother lived in Vietnam for a while and people would come up to him speaking Viatnamese and in several conversations with people, they had assumed he was half Vietnamese half Western.

Ive always been convinced that my father had some exotic routes somewhere along the line. We got him a DNA test kit a few years back and nope, he was mostly irish mixed with some Nordic blood.

Meanwhile, all my family have brown eyes and brown hair but i am very light skinned, ginger, blue eyes. We all look like each other still in different ways. And my Viatnamese looking brother has a beard that turns ginger in the sun.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 16/05/2021 11:34

Dad was pale but tanned very deeply in the sun so we always assume he had some blood from somewhere else in there. My sister had done some genealogy as far back as early 1700s and there was nothing that she could see.

He used to be approached when he went to Spain, Italy of France and spoken to as if he was a native.

Same happens to DH - a woman on a flight once got the huff because he would’ve speak Spanish to her (she was Spanish - he isn’t and doesn’t speak Spanish) and a mum at school was really grilling me over who ‘DSs real dad’ dad was because she has ‘seen him being DS to school’ she was adamant that he was Italian (like her). She assumed that my husband (she hasn’t seen us together) was someone else. In France he gets this too. He does speak good French and Italian though.

I’ve only ever been assumed to be Dutch or Jewish.

Maggiesgirl · 16/05/2021 11:36

No. Myself and 2 of my four brothers all have dark brown eyes. Did my DNA a few years ago. 81% Scottish 9% Irish 7%Scandinavian, 3% Iberian

Must admit I was a bit surprised as though we may have more Mediterranean.

1Hazel1 · 16/05/2021 11:37

Sorry OP what you have written in your OP is a bit ridiculous, I know more Brits with brown eyes than blue or green!

OwlBeThere · 16/05/2021 11:38

@Runaway3444

Sorry I didn’t realise how common it was but I definitely think people shouldn’t judge ethnicity solely by a persons skin tone.
You’re absolutely right they shouldnt, I started a thread about the same thing a little while ago as someone said I was white despite being half Japanese. My sister is white with dark dark brown eyes.
Hallyup6 · 16/05/2021 11:39

Nope, brown eyes are actually dominant in white people. Far more have brown than blue, green or grey.

MovingHouse21 · 16/05/2021 11:39

Two blue-eyed parents can only have blue-eyed children.

This is not true - my son has the darkest brown eyes and neither myself or his father have brown eyes.

Iamtheweedonkey · 16/05/2021 11:39

@Mrsfrumble

Apparently a lot of Welsh people have Iberian DNA, so the dark hair and eyes combination is common there. DH has Welsh heritage and has very dark (nearly black) hair and dark brown eyes, as does DD.
My dad is Welsh, both he and my nan were black hair, dark brown eyes, he has very olive skin tone, tans really easily. My siblings and myself are very fair, two of us with blonde and blue eyes and one with hazel eyes. My children all blue eyes with blonde, Auburn and brown hair. Not one of us takes after my dad.
NeverDropYourMoonCup · 16/05/2021 11:42

@tortoiselover100

No white people have dark brown eyes
I'll tell DP he's not white, then, shall I?

He might be little surprised to hear this, however.

MimiDaisy11 · 16/05/2021 11:45

@tortoiselover100

No white people have dark brown eyes
Did you miss out a comma?
toffeebutterpopcorn · 16/05/2021 11:45

When I was little I have very dark brown eyes (they went green later). They were like chocolate- very dark. I am very white.

Normando91 · 16/05/2021 11:46

Entire family (minus myself) have dark brown eyes and we are all White British.

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