To ask what you consider “The North”?

[Hairbrush123]

Just a post about being a Northerner/Southerner which made me think - what do you consider as “The North”? I’ve never had a solid answer for this and just wanted to know the general census on this.

In the late medieval period it was anywhere north of the Trent. There lay The North.

SleepingStandingU
You don't have to tell me, I was born there.

Culture wise the midlands are def northern.

I grew up with Londerners on one side and Yorkshire folk on the other. In terms of England, many Londerners, anything north of Watford, (and for some outside the M25), is north. Whereas anything north of St Albans is 'Here be Dragons' territory...

For everyone else I've met, who've raised it, the North means anything north of Birmingham and Nottingham....

Above the Humber-Mersey line, give or take.

I think Game of Thrones would have been a better programme if it had contained an element of this debate.

@Looubylou

County Durham, Tyne and Wear, Tynside,Northumberland, and anything North of there.

So is Middlesbrough in the Midlands, then?

Why? What's wrong with the North?
Nothing, but the Midlands is the Midlands, not North or South

@NeverDropYourMoonCup

About ten minutes past Charing Cross should do it from where we are now, if we're talking about from DPland, it all gets a bit sketchy once you're seeing signs that say Bristol.

Scotland isn't The North, it's an entirely different country consisting of low bits,
the posh bit,
the holiday bit,
the high bit and
the fringes of the known world bit,

just before you get to the Islands bit (one bit to the top right with 'people', one bit to the left with 'We sold our London bedsit and now want to live from the land/our art with superfast internet for our Insta accounts of sheep and 497 photos of sun on the water, all taken on one particular day')

and the rocks in the middle of the ocean bits that you can only find on Google by zooming down to the territorial waters border marker level.

My father came from the holiday bit just above the posh bit when it was still a farming and fishing bit.

This!!!!!!

@SunnySpills

SleepingStandingU You don't have to tell me, I was born there.

Culture wise the midlands are def northern.

But if you're born here you know it isn't one or the other. The Midlands it's is own place. Yes more alike to North then South generally but it's own place. Do not let the non-Midlanders split the country into two

@looptheloopinahulahoop

I don't think anyone would consider Wiltshire as part of the Midlands

Central TV used to have a Central South I think, which covered Oxford etc so I guess would also cover the northern parts of Wiltshire.

And you get S4C in Devon sometimes instead of channel 4... That doesn’t mean Ilfracombe is in Wales.

@Meatshake

Anything above the M4

Ah, yes. The famous northern town of Henley-on-Thames...

@lockdownalli

Anything north of the Thames

Seriously - anything north of Milton Keynes is "Up North" to me. I live on South Coast

I'm in Barnard Castle and sometimes get the London local news instead of Tyne Tees news, I wonder why?

[quote KikiniBamalam]@SleepingStandingUp

I’m from the south, I live in the East Midlands, so to me, it’s very much the north.
That’s why I said, “In my book”[/quote]
Get a more accurate book. The clue is in the name - MIDlands.

@LST
Stoke is a liminal space that belongs fully to neither the north nor the midlands, an uncategorisable borderland...

However, if I must nail my colours to the mast, yes, it’s the midlands. I mean, it’s in Staffordshire, and I simply can’t and won’t accept that Staffordshire is North.

Here is the Stoke Sentinel on this weighty question: www.google.com/amp/s/www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/local-news/earth-we-stoke-trent-midlands-408670.amp

@SleepingStandingUp - completely agree the midlands is its own place. It’s not north or south, and why would it want to be? And it doesn’t start and end in Birmingham as some posters seem to think!

Cheshire and Yorkshire and anything above.

SleepingStandingUp
The op asked where people consider 'The North,' to be.
And I gave my opinion, duck.

I thought anything north of the m25 was considered the north by Londoners. That was my London relatives use to always saw to me.

For me anything South of Bedfordshire is the South. Between Bedfordshire and Cheshire/South Yorkshire is the Midlands. Anything North of there is the North. Scotland is not the North it’s Scotland a country in its own right, just like Wales.

Husband grew up in Cheshire and thinks of himself as northern. Went to a northern university, Sheffield. Immediately after graduation, got a job in London, met me, never went back. Proud northerner and potentially more so because he's darn sarth. He watched me type this!!

I'm on the Isle of Wight - you're ALL up North to me!

But thanks for reminding me to watch Kinky Boots again: "Tottenham Court Road is the Midlands."

@SunnySpills

SleepingStandingUp The op asked where people consider 'The North,' to be. And I gave my opinion, duck.

Yes I get that. I'm asking how you consider a completely separate area that you live(d) in to be in an area it isn't. I get that lots of N/Sers don't really get that there's a Midlands but it's like saying oh well I consider Wolverhampton to be in Birmingham and I consider Derby to be part of Nottingham. Erm, they're clearly different areas.

Winterfell

North of Barnet.

To me Scotland isnt north its Scotland iykwim. We always use terms for Scotland- the borders, lowlands and highlands

The wall upwards.