The biggest conspiracy perpetrated by men

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Couldn't think what to name the thread.

Lots of threads on here talk about the split in household activities between men and women and although there are a few exceptions DIY seems to fall to the man and it is described in equivalence to housework or renewing the car insurance or doing the cooking.

Let me tell you IT IS NOT!

All this time men have been doing their share, doing the DIY - HAVING FUN!

My husband is away at the moment and i have had to take on some tasks that would otherwise have been done by him. (As an aside, I have always enjoyed flat packed furniture and just assumed it was specific to that) but it is not! I just completed some reasonably tricky bits of DIY and the sense of accomplishment was amazing. I had a real buzz from my achievements - it was enjoyable!!!!!
I do not feel this way about housework!

Massive make Conspiracy!

Disclaimer, my husband does fair share of housework also.

Next time the men of the house try to compare housework with DIY - it does not compare! No one ever gets a buzz from doing the vacuuming!

I often wonder in those threads how much diy, car and outdoor work there are that it adds up to cooking, cleaning, laundry etc. I mean I'm sure there are houses and yards with enough work but an average house in a cityish area.

Here's another one for you "Women can multitask"

That's perpetuated to ensure we do everything AND do it with a feeling of superiority.

Utter rubbish! How do men run armies and so on if they can't bloody multitask!? They CAN multitask!

Whenever anyone says that to me I always tell them it's nonsense.

Bollox, diy is a fucking chore as is gardening.

My wife finds cleaning relaxing, which is definitely cheating because then expecting me to do other chores is a scam.

She should do half the other chores too because the cleaning is essentially her hobby.

Biggest scam from on here that I've never seen in real life : women claiming sorting out insurance or even more laughably renewing passports as one of their household responsibilities 😂😂😂

I love DIY. Of course it’s more satisfying than housework because it’s not the same thing every day and you get a permanent result, unlike the dishes or laundry that just pile up again.

I’m single now, but even when I was with ex I always did all the diy because he was lazy and impractical. I have a fab collection of tools and hardware bits and bobs.

@FortunesFave

Here's another one for you "Women can multitask"

That's perpetuated to ensure we do everything AND do it with a feeling of superiority.

Utter rubbish! How do men run armies and so on if they can't bloody multitask!? They CAN multitask!

Whenever anyone says that to me I always tell them it's nonsense.

Yes this!!! It's also been proven to be a load of nonsense.

Also: "Men are just more visual".
Often used to excuse objectifying women, going to strip clubs, watching porn etc.

Load of old shite with no basis in neurological evidence.

Religion?

I love gardening and DIY but I have to be in the right frame of mind to get stuck in.

cleaning is essentially her hobby

Do you say that to her face? And are your balls still attached to your body?

@Mayorquimby2

Bollox, diy is a fucking chore as is gardening.

My wife finds cleaning relaxing, which is definitely cheating because then expecting me to do other chores is a scam.

She should do half the other chores too because the cleaning is essentially her hobby.

Biggest scam from on here that I've never seen in real life : women claiming sorting out insurance or even more laughably renewing passports as one of their household responsibilities 😂😂😂

I agree

Ooh I didn't read the hobby bit!

Cleaning is a doddle, as is ironing, clothes washing etc. My job sucks at the moment, and one of the few times i find peace is when I'm ironing, washing, or (especially) cooking. Productive, accomplishing something, but totally low stakes.

@PollyPepper

Also: "Men are just more visual". Often used to excuse objectifying women, going to strip clubs, watching porn etc.

Load of old shite with no basis in neurological evidence.

They are more visual until the excuse 'I don't notice the cleaning needs doing, I don't see mess the way you do, I'm just not as visual'

The biggest conspiracy theory is women taking their clothes off for mens tittilation and telling themselves its' 'empowering'

Greatest trick the patriarchy ever played IMHO. Especially these modern times, with Only Fans, 'sex work is work' diatribe etc.

I have to do everything. Housework,sort bills,DIY,absolutely everything. The only thing my husband does is cut the grass about once a month if he feels like it. In a way it’s good that I have so much to do as I rarely have time to think about what a shit situation it is!

I like the idea of DIY but actually the faff and the mess and dust I dislike. I like painting big walls with a roller and find that satisfying and relaxing but that’s about it. I’m just not fussed on the ‘detail’ and ‘finish’ but DP will fanny about with that shit for ages and tbf does a neat job, I just don’t have the patience. I don’t mind that he enjoys it, why shouldn’t he? I on the other hand do everything in the garden and can lose an entire day out there playing with dirt and love the entire process, weeding and pruning and mowing and all, which DP hates and finds deathly dull and doesn’t like getting mucky. Neither of us want to do any cleaning so pitch in together with just what is necessary to not live in a shithole and do it both as an act of self care and of caring for each other. Once we realised that and approached it like that it felt like less of a daily hassle.

I do have a female friend who absolutely adores cleaning, seriously, I find it fascinating but she genuinely really enjoys doing it. Fair play. She does a few cleaning jobs freelance as a “side hustle” and says it is really relaxing for her and she earns money! Wish I could make myself enjoy cleaning, wouldn’t that be great. Actually I have a male friend who similarly gets a kick out of cleaning things, he does extra cleaning at work that is not his job just because he wants to. I think they’re both outliers but never mind him cleaning up my workspace

Why is household admin being someone’s responsibility so funny though? Passports and insurances don’t sort themselves?

I hate all forms of DIY with a passion, people who like it must be sadists.

I mean, each to their own. I hate DIY and so does DH. When something needs doing we steel ourselves and do it together.

We each have our own set of other household chores, but DIY is something we both need the mutual support to get through. It's blech.

The biggest conspiracy theory is women taking their clothes off for mens tittilation and telling themselves its' 'empowering'

Yes! Magazines, music videos, adverts, films, etc. So empowering and nothing to do with anyone's gaze but theirs. I mean they can gaze at themselves in the mirror if they like it so much or must empowerment be done in public where they can get external validation?

Yes! Add bloody burlesque to that too. It's stripping, sometimes in underwear without taking it off. What's empowering about that?

The stripping off thing is such a mindfuck.

Being half-dressed and showing everyone your body is “empowering” because it’s “on your terms” and means you’re “proud” of your body whatever size it is blah blah.

And that works on people because the alternative to that is being ashamed of your body or thinking women should cover up like some kind of Victorian patriarch. Or that woman should be told what they can and can’t wear and that wouldn’t be feminist!

So that somehow leads to the more pornify and display yourself, the more empowered you are - especially if you get paid!

And yet men don’t seem to need to do this to end up with more actual power. In fact the reverse. And women with actual power aren’t known for their “empowered” stripping.

Meanwhile men get to gawp and half dressed pornified women all the time and reinforce their view that that’s what women are for.

I think it comes down to the fact that having a female body and being able to use it to gain approval/attract men/get money out of men is the one “power” women have always had. But at the cost of being reduced to a body and appearance.

I love DIY. So many of the 'boy jobs' like DIY or the bins are weekly or less often, and the 'girl jobs' like cleaning and cooking are daily, I think that's the big scam.

Also I don’t get this:

Biggest scam from on here that I've never seen in real life : women claiming sorting out insurance or even more laughably renewing passports as one of their household responsibilities

I was left with all this kind of stuff in my LTR and it took up a vast amount of time. Time my ex spent relaxing, furthering his career etc. Are you saying it’s not hard and shouldn’t count?

I remember sorting out passports for 2 dc was a fucking faff of epic proportions. Filling in massive forms, trips to get photos done correctly with toddlers, queuing in post office with toddlers, etc. If it was so easy why didn’t my ex do it in 5 mins hmmmmmmmmmmmm?

Not to mention keeping a system where the passports are safely hidden away but can be found easily, keeping them safe while travelling, knowing when they need renewing - all on me like a million other similar things. Wifework, mental load, exhausting.