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To think this is absolutely insane?

59 replies

tinkyywinky · 06/05/2021 16:54

www.facebook.com/6149699161/posts/10160022358664162/

She's 4 years old, for Christ's sake!!

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Ozgirl75 · 07/05/2021 02:56

When my son was 3 he liked to dress as a firefighter but I didn’t send him off into a burning building, I just let him pretend.
Now when he plays football he narrates as if he’s playing for Arsenal but I’m not knocking on the dressing room door demanding they let an 8 year old out on the field to play.
Fgs. What is it about the trans ideology that sends some people so utterly batshit crazy?

Torvean · 07/05/2021 04:37

A 3 year old who know the term non-binary. And 2 stupid parents who can't differentiate between biological sex and gender. If she did not like dresses and pretty shoes let her wear legging or shorts and t-shirts with plain shoes or trainers. Girls can wear football strips too.

The fact they've already contacted the Tavistock another red light.

Nothing mentioned is signs of body dysphoria. She didn't like the clothes.
Next month she might want to be a horse. She's 3 they do that.

Wandawomble · 07/05/2021 07:33

@Ozgirl75

When my son was 3 he liked to dress as a firefighter but I didn’t send him off into a burning building, I just let him pretend. Now when he plays football he narrates as if he’s playing for Arsenal but I’m not knocking on the dressing room door demanding they let an 8 year old out on the field to play. Fgs. What is it about the trans ideology that sends some people so utterly batshit crazy?
I’ve lived and worked on the alternative scene for years and known many transsexuals, most of whom were lovely gay men who became women after years of counselling and thoughtful consideration.

What is happening now to children is something else entirely. And even the transsexuals I know are shocked by this.
What has happened is a wholesale persuasion and rhetoric that has sprung up in schools and in the media that to be kind to everyone we must remove the idea of biological sex and replace it with gender so therefore anyone can say they feel like they are something and that now means that is what they are. So now violent sexual predatory men in prisons can say they are women and be moved to the women’s estate! Be kind! And four year old children say they feel like they are the opposite sex and we instantly start applauding and calling them the opposite sex and get them to the Tavistock for hormones, amputations and a lifetime of surgical and medical operations. Be kind!!!!

I think people’s brains have fallen out and the result will be so many harms enacted on children’s bodies and on vulnerable women that this will be a dark age.

But unless ordinary people actually do something about it and get educated on the issues rather than shouting BE KIND constantly - our children will be collateral to this ridiculous and regressive way of thinking. I will not sacrifice my daughter’s body and sanity to an ideology based on gender stereotypes. She is heartbroken that many of her female friends are now saying they are trans.

Everyone thinks it’s someone else’s child this is happening to. Nope. It’s happening in our children’s schools right now.

Wandawomble · 07/05/2021 08:18

@FightingtheFoo

“Google Jazz Jennings. Jazz was a little boy who apparently wanted to be a girl at the age of 2. Jazz's crazy stage mum saw a cash cow and ran with it. First TV appearance at 4 years old followed by cross sex hormones and more chat show appearances which eventually turned into a 6-season TV series. (Recently cancelled I believe).

Jazz is now 20, with a binge eating disorder, believed to have never experienced an orgasm or a real romantic relationship, no job, too depressed to go to university and has at least 4 genital surgeries under their belt - that we know of - because their "gender affirmation surgery" went so badly wrong“

This is so appalling isn’t it? And yet no one is learning from it, instead law is being changed and words are being mangled to have no meaning. Who does this to children?

AnUnoriginalUsername · 07/05/2021 08:33

They're just letting him live as he feels. Not like they're giving him hormone treatment or chopping bits off or adding bits. I think it's better to let kids explore who they are. So long as they don't make anything permanent it's just a kid learning themself

ScrollingLeaves · 07/05/2021 09:06

“AnUnoriginalUsername

They're just letting him live as he feels“

They are issuing a public statement to the world that their 4 year old daughter is a boy.
They have talked about a referral to the Tavistock Clinic for hormone treatment when it is allowed therefore this is already their plan.

They are setting the child to live as they feel.
They have been sure to get themselves attention in the process..

The toddler most likely wanted to have the same clothes as her twin brother rather than the uncomfortable pink stuff her parents had put her in. This is perfectly typical for a young child.

Ozgirl75 · 07/05/2021 09:34

@Wandawomble I totally agree. I see boys at my sons’ school and some of them, who are clearly quite effeminate, will possibly be gay in the future and I do fear for them that instead they will feel that they are somehow wrong to be an effeminate boy, and instead have to be a girl.
Interestingly the most vehemently anti trans agenda person I have spoken to is my hairdresser, who is a gay man. Says he finds the whole thing really unpleasant, homophobic and not his “scene” at all.
I just find it so utterly bizarre when parents of tiny Pre school children are like “they’re rejecting gender roles” and it’s like “you’re the ones who have introduced the gender roles you absolute spanner”.

TheWeeDonkey · 07/05/2021 11:43

It makes me wonder where the adults are in all of this. I know some parents who live vicariously through their children and it disturbs me but thi is on another level. Poor kids

LeftyLou · 07/05/2021 11:54

@OneCalamerra

My 4 year old is a trans dinosaur. I am very proud. He is so brave and stunning. I am fully supportive of him living as a dinosaur to live his authentic true life.
LOVE this!!

That poor child. So much for gender stereotyping.

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