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To think this is absolutely insane?

59 replies

tinkyywinky · 06/05/2021 16:54

www.facebook.com/6149699161/posts/10160022358664162/

She's 4 years old, for Christ's sake!!

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berryhead2013 · 06/05/2021 20:28

My friends wee girl and my daughters best friend has just come out as a boy he was three when he realised he didn't feel the same way as his body he was a miserable little girl now he is a boy he is a lot happier and not as mean or tantrummy
They have changed his name at school he uses the boys toilets they are in a waiting list for a gender clinic but won't be seen for two years
Things may or may not change in that time but for now he is not the tormented soul he was having to live as a girl

stressfuljune · 06/05/2021 20:30

But how are they 'living as a girl' at 3?
I just don't get it. All DC should be treated same at that age

berryhead2013 · 06/05/2021 20:37

@stressfuljune she used to just look at her body and cry it's sounds crazy but this wee soul knew she was a boy and the change in her/him is unbelievable

scrivette · 06/05/2021 20:39

It's ridiculous, all this week DC3 has identified as Hulk. I am not planning on painting her green for the rest of her life.

Why couldn't they just dress her in unisex clothes? I know of a few little girls who wouldn't wear pink, pretty dresses, dolls, played football etc when they were younger and they have remained female now they are adults.

SaltAndVinegarSandwiches · 06/05/2021 20:39

What does that even mean though? The child isn't having surgery are they? What difference does it make? I knew a trans girl in my eldest's preschool. He dressed in pink and would say he was a girl. His parents weren't comfortable with it but there was nothing they could do but let it happen. Nothing irreversible is going on.

AmyandPhilipfan · 06/05/2021 20:47

It is ridiculous at that age I agree. She has a twin brother and I imagine she liked the stuff he got given and wanted it too and somehow that has been translated into ‘she must actually be a boy.’ Well my almost 4 year old daughter consistently said, when she was 2-3, that she was a boy. She has two brothers. She probably had no concept really of what boy/girl means. I just consistently told her no, you’re a girl and, if she kept insisting I just ignored it as ultimately it didn’t matter. A lot of the time when she wasn’t saying she was a boy she was saying she was a dog/cat/monkey etc. It really didn’t matter. She doesn’t say it anymore. And it makes me so cross when people equate girls wanting short hair and to play football and have a blue bedroom to meaning that they must be a boy. No, it means they are girls who like having short hair, playing football and having a blue bedroom. And that is perfectly ok.

MadeOfStarStuff · 06/05/2021 21:19

YANBU

At four years old children should be reassured that they can still be a girl and not like pink sparkly things, they can do everything boys can do and are just as good as boys.

The trans ideology just reinforces gender stereotypes in a really damaging way. If a child doesn’t like the things stereotypically associated with their gender, rather than teaching them that they can like anything and do anything, they’re being taught that they must be the “wrong” gender and need to change it.

stressfuljune · 06/05/2021 21:22

@berryhead2013 I still don't get it. At 3 my DC wouldn't notice anything different about their bodies either than genitals when in bath. They never mentioned them at that age nor saw the significance.
My DD did however rebel over pink and dresses at that age. Totally normal. My DS liked to wear a dress up dress age 3.
I do also know a child age 11 that is currently living transgender but that evolved from age 6 and no massive deal is being made of it. The child may change their mind yet.

FightingtheFoo · 06/05/2021 21:37

[quote berryhead2013]@stressfuljune she used to just look at her body and cry it's sounds crazy but this wee soul knew she was a boy and the change in her/him is unbelievable [/quote]

We're there any other issues in the home? Divorce? Absent father? Abuse? Depression? Unstable domestic life?

FightingtheFoo · 06/05/2021 21:37

*Were

stressfuljune · 06/05/2021 21:46

@FightingtheFoo the child I know is in a very happy stable home, but this wasn't always the way. They dressed mainly in the clothes of the opposite sex etc and were often confused by others whether a girl or boy as a result. It was never an issue as there are millions of non stereotypical children. By 11 they asked to be treated as trans. But they may decide to stay as they are?!?! Who knows.
But it wasnt from age 2-3

MonkeyNotOrgangrinder · 06/05/2021 21:56

[quote berryhead2013]@stressfuljune she used to just look at her body and cry it's sounds crazy but this wee soul knew she was a boy and the change in her/him is unbelievable [/quote]
If a 3 year old is looking at their body and crying that could be indicative of some kind of deeper unhappiness, or, God forbid, some kind of abuse. What does it even mean to be in the wrong body? Even mermaids now say "in the wrong body" was not meant to be taken literally

FinnegansWhiskers · 06/05/2021 22:03

When I was growing up, that was called a tomboy and no one made a big deal about it. Poor kid

Yep.

My DD was a “tomboy” who hated pigtails, dresses and pretty shoes throughout her childhood. She is now a very proud mum of 3.

Thank God this lunacy wasn’t a thing when she was growing up

Theythinkitsalloveritisnow · 06/05/2021 22:17

Bloody hell, I'd heard of Jazz Jennings (well, on here) but not seen any of the videos, but that YouTube video is horrific. That poor child, surrounded by adults who should be putting her best interests at heart putting their narcissistic interests first and basically performing medical experiments on her. And it being made into a reality TV show? Truly truly fucked up. Her parents and those doctors should be in prison

Treemama · 06/05/2021 22:27

When my ds was about 3years old he didn't feel like a boy, he felt like Spiderman Hmm

Undersnatch · 06/05/2021 22:47

Yanbu Sad

Stompythedinosaur · 06/05/2021 23:33

My dds could tell me they knew they were a girls on the inside when they were four, so I don't see why a trans kid couldn't know they were a boy.

stressfuljune · 06/05/2021 23:50

@Stompythedinosaur interesting name considering the thread. I work with kids. I have my own. I have never heard of a 3-4 year old child discussing how it feels to be male or female. Ever. Nurseries do their job of encouraging kids to be themselves and play with who & what they like.
A preschool child talking like that is not the norm

SugarNyx · 06/05/2021 23:54

My 4 year old thinks he’s Spider-Man! Kids don’t understand this stuff! Utter nonsense

Thislittlefinger123 · 07/05/2021 00:03

That poor child Sad

ScrollingLeaves · 07/05/2021 00:03

There is an interesting thread about this on the Feminism board, “Britain’s Youngest Trans Child”.

SteveArnottsCodeine · 07/05/2021 00:11

My sister was adamant she wanted to be a boy from the age of about 3. Dressed in boys clothes, wanted a boys haircut, played with boys, insisted we call her by a boys name. We all did and let her get on with it but never actually referred to her as “he”. She grew out of it when puberty hit and is now a feminine, straight woman. Thank God she wasn’t a kid now, she would have been on hormone blockers before she was in junior school.

I’m also concerned about how often these kids seem to decide they’re the wrong sex following trauma. We’ve got friends who’ve got two sons and recently split up. The mum has always been very open (maybe too open) about how she wanted a girl but never got one. Following the split the family had a very bad year where the mum was unwell and ended up having to have a hysterectomy. She had a lot of mental health issues as a result, one of which was being very upset that she would “never get her daughter now”. Lo and behold within months her eldest is identifying as a girl. It’s so clear from an outsiders perspective that this is a reaction to a horrible family situation and trauma in the home but everyone’s facilitating it and it’s moving at a hundred miles an hour. The kid is already on hormones and receiving “gender counselling” to see if they’d be “suitable” for surgery. It’s fucked up.

WutheringTights · 07/05/2021 00:27

My four year old is currently living his best life as a robot. I'll just ring the GP and get his arms and legs replaced with artificial limbs then.

Wandawomble · 07/05/2021 01:04

@SaltAndVinegarSandwiches

What does that even mean though? The child isn't having surgery are they? What difference does it make? I knew a trans girl in my eldest's preschool. He dressed in pink and would say he was a girl. His parents weren't comfortable with it but there was nothing they could do but let it happen. Nothing irreversible is going on.
No surgery yet
Wandawomble · 07/05/2021 01:10

Roblox, TikTok, Reddit, Discord, all the switch Multiplayer games - my daughter says the Trans is being massively promoted across all of these platforms. The children all have pronouns and sexual descriptors in their names - including pansexual, polyamorous, animesexual.

Why is it that children are being encouraged to talk about sexuality and identity all the time? Children being told they are in the wrong body is bizarre and... quite frankly wrong.

Why is no one in authority doing anything about it?