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Who is BU, 1 or 2, lasagne building

326 replies

Stevearnottsbeard · 30/04/2021 10:06

Lighthearted but I'm intrigued as to how everyone else puts together their lasagna... Not the ingredients or cooking but the actual 'building' of it, me and my husband disagree.
So I've been making it the same way for years, husband has never complained about it and loves it but last night was surprised to find out how I constructed it, he said he would do it differently, so which way you would agree with:

  1. Meat, pasta, white sauce, repeat, cheese on top.
  2. Pasta, meat, repeat, white sauce on top only, cheese
OP posts:
poptartsarefood · 30/04/2021 11:15

We do three layers:
meat sauce, bechamel, parmesan, pasta
meat sauce, bechamel, parmesan, pasta
meat sauce, bechamel, parmesan

BrownEyedGirl80 · 30/04/2021 11:15

I do meat,cheese,pasta,white sauce,cheese,pasta and so on.
Cheese on every layer.

blobby10 · 30/04/2021 11:20

Mine is pasta, meat, white sauce, pasta, meat white sauce, pasta, white sauce. Cheese gets added separately as I can never remember who does and doesn't like cheese and/or cheese sauce so its easier!

Horehound · 30/04/2021 11:20

@Stevearnottsbeard

I have to admit I use a jar of lasagna white sauce so I'm not sure what it's classed as. I have tried making bechamel sauce on numerous occasions, I just can't get to grips with it so I cheat, but I make the ragu from scratch including veg such as carrots, peppers and mushrooms. I am 1. It never occurred to me before to make it any other way, but I do however take people's point about pasta on the bottom making it easier to serve so as I compromise next time I will do that, but I'm not cutting down on my white sauce!!! 😂 😂 😂 😂
I really recommend you make the sauce from Scratch, it's super easy!
ReviewingTheSituation · 30/04/2021 11:21

@Horehound - I can't remember the detail, and it wasn't rocket science, but it was to sweat down a pretty substantial amount of chopped veg (onion, carrot, celery - all chopped VERY finely), in a LOT of oil, then to add minced meat - beef and pork which we minced in the kitchen with her, but would be the equivalent of mince and chopped bacon/pancetta, to brown it, then there was a slow addition of stock (which was just carrot, celery, onion, bay, thyme, rosemary all simmering away with water in another pan on the hob) and tomatoes (can't remember whether they were tinned or fresh now - I imagine fresh). The liquid was all added a ladle at a time - she was quite insistent that the meat must not be boiled, so we were never allowed to submerge it in liquid, so it was added little and often, to gradually build up the flavour. There was a fairly copious amount of red wine too, which I guess must have been before the stock/tomatoes, because that was also added in stages and cooked down.

So the ingredients were no different from how I'd make a lasagne sauce, but the process was more involved. Interestingly though, by doing it her way, we didn't need to leave it to cook for ages - once she was happy with the way it tasted, we went straight to layering it up.
I did take proper notes at the time, so I do have the detail written down - maybe I'll dig them out and make it 'properly' at the weekend...

It did taste absolutely amazing.

We also made delicious stuffed pasta, tiramisu, a variant of tiramisu with Limoncello rather than coffee, a meatloaf, and something else which escapes me now.

'Mama' (who was in charge) didn't speak any english, so she had her lovely sons in the kitchen with her, to translate and pour the wine, and clear up behind us. It was the most enjoyable afternoon/evening, and thinking about it now is making me want to go on holiday and just be immersed in a different culture again...

starfish4 · 30/04/2021 11:21

I wouldn't care if someone else was cooking itGrin

Cocogreen · 30/04/2021 11:21

@FreezerBird

A combination I think:

Pasta, Ragu, bechamel, pasta, Ragu, bechamel, pasta, bechamel, cheese.

Yes this is how I make it but with about half a cup of white sauce spread roughly on the bottom of the dish to stop the pasta sticking.
Gobbeldegook · 30/04/2021 11:22

1

EventuallyDistracted · 30/04/2021 11:23

Neither.

Wipe the dish with olive oil then pasta, meat, white sauce, repeat about 6x then cheese on top. Holds its shape really well.

Horehound · 30/04/2021 11:24

Bechamel IS a white sauce. I don't know why people are being so pedantic about it. Confused

pinkyredrose · 30/04/2021 11:25
  1. Bechemel only goes on top
OnTheBrink1 · 30/04/2021 11:25

1 always 1.
You need the meat on the bottom to make the lowest layer of pasta soft.
The white sauce gets distributed on each layer to also help cook the pasta - if not it risks not having enough liquid to absorb and you get the dreaded undercooked lasagne sheets (this is if you are using dried sheets which I do)
Also I would have thought all white sauce on the too would be too much although a generous layer on top with cheese is delicious

Mistlewoeandwhine · 30/04/2021 11:25

1

Cocogreen · 30/04/2021 11:26

@TatianaBis

Lasagne bechamel has cheese and nutmeg. And sometimes bay.
Yes to 60g Parmesan cheese, nutmeg and a grind of pepper in the bechamel. I cook the meat sauce with a bay leaf in it.
Horehound · 30/04/2021 11:26

[quote ReviewingTheSituation]@Horehound - I can't remember the detail, and it wasn't rocket science, but it was to sweat down a pretty substantial amount of chopped veg (onion, carrot, celery - all chopped VERY finely), in a LOT of oil, then to add minced meat - beef and pork which we minced in the kitchen with her, but would be the equivalent of mince and chopped bacon/pancetta, to brown it, then there was a slow addition of stock (which was just carrot, celery, onion, bay, thyme, rosemary all simmering away with water in another pan on the hob) and tomatoes (can't remember whether they were tinned or fresh now - I imagine fresh). The liquid was all added a ladle at a time - she was quite insistent that the meat must not be boiled, so we were never allowed to submerge it in liquid, so it was added little and often, to gradually build up the flavour. There was a fairly copious amount of red wine too, which I guess must have been before the stock/tomatoes, because that was also added in stages and cooked down.

So the ingredients were no different from how I'd make a lasagne sauce, but the process was more involved. Interestingly though, by doing it her way, we didn't need to leave it to cook for ages - once she was happy with the way it tasted, we went straight to layering it up.
I did take proper notes at the time, so I do have the detail written down - maybe I'll dig them out and make it 'properly' at the weekend...

It did taste absolutely amazing.

We also made delicious stuffed pasta, tiramisu, a variant of tiramisu with Limoncello rather than coffee, a meatloaf, and something else which escapes me now.

'Mama' (who was in charge) didn't speak any english, so she had her lovely sons in the kitchen with her, to translate and pour the wine, and clear up behind us. It was the most enjoyable afternoon/evening, and thinking about it now is making me want to go on holiday and just be immersed in a different culture again...[/quote]
Omg sounds amazing! Was this a cooking school you went to?
I'm hungry reading about it!
The recipe I follow also uses half and half minced beef and pork sausage meat. Love it.

Horehound · 30/04/2021 11:27

And I cook my pasta sheets in water first!

OnTheBrink1 · 30/04/2021 11:29

@Horehound really? I find making bachemel sauce an absolute pain in the neck. Done it many times but it’s a massive pain as you have to keep stirring constantly so it doesn’t go lumpy. If you get distracted by kids or anything - the whole lot often has to go in the bin. Adding milk in a bit of a time of annoying too.

WeAllHaveWings · 30/04/2021 11:31

hmmm.....i don't put the béchamel and meat together....have a layer of pasta inbetween. Have I been doing it wrong?

top down

cheese
béchamel
----- pasta
meat
----- pasta
béchamel
----- pasta
meat
----- pasta
béchamel
----- pasta
meat

Bimblybomeyelash · 30/04/2021 11:31

I do meat, pasta, meat, pasta, white sauce, meat, pasta, meat, pasta, white sauce, cheese. I don't like too much white sauce.

How deep are all your pasta dishes??!!
I do sauce, pasta, white sauce. I’m a simple sort. With a shallow lasagna dish apparently.

LalalalalalaLand123 · 30/04/2021 11:32

I prefer #1. But I also put cheese with every layer of white sauce, and top with white sauce and cheese. So I guess I do a hybrid version!

iklboo · 30/04/2021 11:32

1 - I've just made one.

Horehound · 30/04/2021 11:34

[quote OnTheBrink1]@Horehound really? I find making bachemel sauce an absolute pain in the neck. Done it many times but it’s a massive pain as you have to keep stirring constantly so it doesn’t go lumpy. If you get distracted by kids or anything - the whole lot often has to go in the bin. Adding milk in a bit of a time of annoying too.[/quote]
Oh right I have to do that for a "standard" white sauce or mine goes lumpy so no difference! I once read a thing about heating the milk up first in a microwave as when you then add it to flour it is absorbed more easily

ReviewingTheSituation · 30/04/2021 11:34

@OnTheBrink1 - have you tried the 'all in one' method? Butter, flour and milk all in the pan together, over a gentle heat. As soon as the butter starts to melt, whisk it until it all comes together and then when it resembles a sauce, you're over the danger point and won't get lumps. Even if you do get lumps, whisking will sort them out. I always make white sauce with a whisk rather than a spoon - it's much more forgiving!

It only takes a couple of minutes. I honestly can't taste the difference between a sauce made that way and one where you cook the flour off first.

roguetomato · 30/04/2021 11:35

Never really thought about it, but I do put little sauce on the bottom then pasta, also I put cheese in between as well as on top.

me4real · 30/04/2021 11:35
  1. White sauce/maybe a little bit of cheese is its own layer each time, then a cheesier layer on the top.