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To say that if you know your children have older siblings on their dad’s side who they don’t know, it’s really important to tell them.

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OnlyInYourDreams · 29/04/2021 11:42

Recently a family member has been researching their family on Ancestry and it turns out that they have younger siblings from their dad’s second marriage. This wasn’t really a surprise, the dad moved on when they were still young, in fact never really had much to do with them apart from to father several children with their mum. But it seems that when he did finally move on he remarried and had more children with his second wife.

Except it seems his first wife and children remained a secret, and now family member has contacted the younger sibling and they had no idea that their father was A, married before, and B, that they have several older siblings, and essentially a whole other family i.e. nieces nephews etc.

And because the parents are both dead, they will never have answers as to whether the mother knew and kept it from them, or whether the father just kept it a secret from all of them.

Family member isn’t necessarily seeking a relationship with this sibling, but wanted to know about their father which I think is fair enough.

But all too often we see posts on here from posters saying that their husband has children by a previous partner who he never sees and should the existing children be told.

In this day of technology, of ancestry and social media, I absolutely think it’s vital they be told, because I think that these things are impossible to keep a secret, and the fallout could be awful when the younger kids find out.

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OnlyInYourDreams · 29/04/2021 13:35

I wonder how these women can marry men who they know don’t see their children, some of who are adults by then so clearly nothing to do with the ex withholding contact, and then not only marry them, but go on to have more children with them which they surely must know that if the relationship breaks down their children will be the dirty little secrets in his next relationship and so on.

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freecuthbert · 29/04/2021 13:36

@piccalilliChilli why on earth have they made the topic of his eldest child such a taboo subject and hiding it from the youngest ones? I hope I'm not making assumptions here, but is it because the eldest isn't part of his "proper" family? Sad

FoxyTheFox · 29/04/2021 13:39

We had a similar situation in my family, my father was married before and had a son then met my mother and had me/my siblings. He didn't tell us until we were adults that we had a half-brother and, while he did pay maintenance, he had never actually met him as he serrated from his wife while she was still pregnant. He said that she told him she didn't want any contact and that he did consider going to court to get access but she was living with a new partner by then and the child was under the impression this man was his dad, he didn't want to upset the apple cart so stayed away. They still have never met and while I've met him, we don't particularly have a relationship beyond the occasional "how you getting on?" text message and the odd coffee here and there.

freecuthbert · 29/04/2021 13:40

And yes @OnlyInYourDreams that is my thoughts exactly! But I suppose these women must think they are special and the ex was a bitch and their new family is the "proper" one. Not that it's an excuse for not supporting your child from another relationship... and I really think a woman has to truly be dim to really believe they are oh so different to the ex. It's kinda like affair partners imo, they end up surprised when they get cheated on themselves by the same guy they cheated with! Hmm

FoxyTheFox · 29/04/2021 13:52

But I suppose these women must think they are special and the ex was a bitch and their new family is the "proper" one

A lot of the time though these women are fed a story from the man about how he is the victim of his psycho ex who won't let him see the kids even though they're his whole world and he loves them so much, not enough to actually try and see them or go to court to get a contact arrangement in place or (in a plenty of cases) to pay any maintenance. They're full of patter about how the new woman is special, that she's the one, that she brings out the good man in him, and so on. Its like they get handed a script to follow at their Deadbeat Dad meetings.

OnlyInYourDreams · 29/04/2021 13:59

But they still believe this crap.

I know the blokes tell them what they want to hear and if it’s just generally a relationship without kids then that’s one thing, but someone who never sees their kids ever would just ring alarm bells for most women, surely?

I remember a few years ago we got talking to a couple and she was saying that he had 4 kids who he did see, however they were by 3 different women, and she then went on to say that these women were all still in love with him, no doubt he’d told her that, Hmm and how hard that was sometimes. But then in the next breath she went on to talk about how he’d had such a hard time of his previous relationships and how he had told her how much his life had changed because of her. And all I could think was “bet you won’t still be together in 5 years.”

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Larryslockdownlunch · 29/04/2021 14:13

I did a DNA test and found a half sibling I didn't know about. She was born the year my parents got married. My dad passed away before I did my DNA and my new half sibling seems to think he didn't know she existed. Her birth mother put her up for adoption. My dad had 2 other older children that we knew about. Both adopted. Don't know why my mother thought it was a good idea to have children with him, he was a shit husband and shit father.

DontBeRidiculous · 29/04/2021 14:13

I can see how it might be awkward and uncomfortable to have to "reveal" your past to your children, especially if you behaved less than admirably, but that's why you shouldn't make it a secret to begin with. Children are very matter-of-fact and accepting of their individual realities.

I think everyone should be made aware of all their close relatives, unless there's a very good reason not to (something that could affect their safety). It can be valuable information to have, and at the very least, you deserve to know all your siblings/half-siblings.

FuckingFabulous · 29/04/2021 14:18

It depends, really. My older two children have no relationship with their bio dad at all. He has three other children. They know they exist but it's just like they don't count them as siblings, and I won't encourage them to either. Mine are 13 and 12 and his older three would be 27, 26 and 21 now. So my children could be an aunt or uncle, but I have no clue. I don't want to know either. I don't want them involved with any of them at all.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 29/04/2021 14:35

I'm the oldest sibling. My dad has 4 other children with 3 different women. I've never met the youngest one as I was NC with my dad before she was born and she was taken into care anyway.

I think it's fair to tell the younger siblings but personally I would hate to be contacted by any of mine. I'm not really interested in rehashing old wounds, it's been 20 years since I saw any of them and they don't feel like family to be perfectly honest.

Dobbyafreeelf · 29/04/2021 14:54

I have a friend whose DD is 11. Her father has numerous other children from various flings with at least 1 who is months younger and in same school year as her DD. The father has refused all contact, pays no maintenance. My friend hasn't told her DD about any of her half siblings. Next year she goes to secondary and could well end up in the same school and classes as them. My friend refuses to discuss the matter and is burying her head about it.

freecuthbert · 29/04/2021 14:57

@Dobbyafreeelf that is quite complicated though and I wouldn't begrudge her decision to keep quiet under these circumstances.

Dobbyafreeelf · 29/04/2021 15:04

[quote freecuthbert]@Dobbyafreeelf that is quite complicated though and I wouldn't begrudge her decision to keep quiet under these circumstances.[/quote]
Even though she has a brother who is likely to end up in the same school year at the same secondary school? They are both live in the same catchment area.

freecuthbert · 29/04/2021 15:14

I meant because they might end up in the same school it complicates things. So you tell the child that this person is their half sibling and then they have to face them at school every day? They know that's their sibling but they have to pretend not to know. It can complicate things. I can see both sides of telling and not telling in such a situation.

NurseButtercup · 29/04/2021 15:17

Genetic Sexual Attraction, in siblings who have not met until adulthood, is another very real reason why children should be told, imo.

This ^^

When I was 15 my dad died and I found out that he has five sons from his first marriage. I've never met any of them, but I had an irrational fear for a long time that I would accidentally end up in a relationship with one of my half brothers.

Opplesandbononos · 29/04/2021 15:36

My DD is nearly 9. She doesn't know she has 2 older half siblings.

OnlyInYourDreams · 29/04/2021 16:12

@ FuckingFabulous but the difference is that your children know these siblings exist. It’s so much different if they don’t know and Are then suddenly contacted out of nowhere.

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KizzyMoo · 29/04/2021 16:23

I know a guy with 5 kids, he only has contact with the 2 he lives with. The other 3 all have different mums, don't see him or each other and 2 are at the same school.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 29/04/2021 16:24

To those of you who have children that don't know their older siblings - did you not know about them either?

Only ask because I am the oldest sibling and I am NC with my dad and I really struggle to understand why someone would start a relationship with a man who has children he doesn't see.

KizzyMoo · 29/04/2021 16:28

Should have added the 2 at the same school know about each other. They are so alike teachers asked if they were siblings. The response was a no, but they know they are.

Eyevorbig0ne · 29/04/2021 16:30

It's important in case they ever meet. Relatives can be attracted so it's best that they know about each other.
Also, for inherited diseases it's good to know.

tracker222 · 29/04/2021 16:32

My DS has 4 half siblings. 3 by one mother and 1 with another. I doubt any of them know about my DS. He is only 8 so I've not told him about them either, but I will when he is old enough.

spittycup · 29/04/2021 16:37

I don't see any good reason not to tell kids

My DD has a half sister 6 weeks younger, they're now preschool. I'll tell her but I can't see it making any kind of difference to her as the dad didn't see/pay for either really. No shared connection there.

Its line me telling her she has a cousin in France.

Crabwoman · 29/04/2021 17:49

I have two younger half brothers, who are about 7 and 9 years youngest than me. I would love to meet them but I have never had anything do with my birth father and I don't know if they know anything about me.

I feel sad because I have recently found out they (my DB's) have kids the same age as mine and I would love them to meet. But I don't want be the one who destroys a family. Sad

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