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AIBU to be furious that this isn’t illegal?

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YetAnotherHastyNameChange · 28/04/2021 13:20

During Covid myself and another few mums in my area have been visiting and delivering food parcels to elderly people whose families have been unable to visit. During this time I’ve made some really good friends with some of the old ladies and now the dc are back at school I’ve been still visiting a couple of them to help out and have a catch up and chat with them.

One particular lady is really lovely, absolutely hilarious but quite frail and her house really is a tip. Her family who live a distance away pay for a cleaner to go in weekly but as the lady is always there she never lets the cleaner actually do much other than the bathroom and all the books and stuff she’s hoarded for years is still piled up everywhere. A couple of weeks ago her family collected her and took her back to their house now restrictions have eased and booked the cleaner to go in as normal but hoping she could throw a few bits out - really not important things but there’s stacks of magazines from the 90’s, endless Tupperware that doesn’t match and the owner really won’t notice when she returns.

Anyway, cleaner goes in a discovers lots of things have been moved around so phones family to see if it’s them. It’s not them but they find out some internet blogger who visits ‘abandoned places’ has broken in somehow, dressed up in her clothes, sat on her bed, took loads of photos of all her possessions and posted it all online as a ‘time capsule house’. Family contact police who claim no laws have been broken as there’s no sign of a break in and he is claiming to have been invited in. Lady is now hugely embarrassed as everyone has seen what a mess she lives in and is refusing to come home again.

Having looked at this mans page he’s been going all round my local area and letting himself into people’s caravans, abandoned schools, loads of houses which he claims are abandoned but quite possibly just second homes that haven’t been visited for a while, taking photos in through people’s windows of houses that are clearly lived in, going into farms and photographing all the barns with animals, machinery that could be stolen, broke into a Victorian cinema that is currently being rebuilt by volunteers but is in a dodgy area so will now almost certainly just get trashed.

How is this not illegal? Why is he allowed to do this? So many people have complained on his page that he’s been in their barn/ photographing their dining room while they were out etc. and he just blocks them from the page.

He’s getting loads of views on these pages so more and more people are going to start doing this, surely? I find it outrageous behaviour and can’t believe the police won’t intervene.

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Am I being unreasonable?

1266 votes. Final results.

You are being unreasonable
You are NOT being unreasonable
WarwickHunt · 28/04/2021 23:41


As an American it's hard for me to fathom that if someone is on your property without permission that you can't just ring the police and have them removed.

You certainly can. The intruder is a trespasser. The rightful occupier can use reasonable force to remove them, and if the police are made aware they will usually attend to supervise and to make sure that the trespasser leaves peacefully.

But that's not what's happening here. The trespasser has already left peacefully without doing any damage. No crime has been committed and the police have no part to play.
Oshikundu · 28/04/2021 23:54

Targeting elderly, vulnerable, women like this, including the liar's claim that he was " invited in" based on the stereotype of "forgetful oldies" must surely constitute a hate crime based on age?
Especially as this poor woman is now scared, and fearful, because of his actions. It's elder abuse surely? She has been emotionally harmed, and put in fear by his action.

I'm so angry reading this thread. Get a bloody grip Devon police!
What a creepy, horrible, lowlife weasel he is.

DdraigGoch · 29/04/2021 00:10

Speak to a solicitor, it's a civil matter.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 29/04/2021 05:55


boomboomscousin he’s very definitely breaking in. He’s obviously not causing damage when he does so somehow but certainly the cinema that he photographed himself inside is like Fort Knox! I’m guessing he uses a ladder and gets in through an upstairs window or similar but certainly the cinema and the lady I knows property (and presumably the NT mansion) at least were securely locked.

He may have a set of lock-picks.

This would enable him to enter a property without causing any damage, and to lock it up again.

He must have some illegal means of entry - I can't believe that so many householders are remiss about securing their property.

The shock of someone nbeing in your home is tremendous. A neighbour was broken into, and she said that it wasn't what was stolen that upset her as much as the though that someone had rifled through their private things. She couldn't go into the house on her own, she was so upset. They also had to dump a bottle of whiskey, rum and sherry, in case someone had pee'd in them.

Even if he's not causing physical damage, he's stealing electricity (as someone pointed out upthread) and as he seems to be making himself a cuppa, the little sh*t, probably a teabag, too. All technicalities I suppose, but possibly something to proceed on in legal terms.
If people know who he is I'd be tempted to try to organise a gang of neighbours to do the same to him. Enter his home, use his stuff, take photos and puts them online.

(Course, Sod's Law means they'd get caught . . . )
LittleRa · 29/04/2021 06:26

Can’t believe he has the attached statement on his Facebook page- banging on about how using his images is illegal, when those very images have been taken by sneaking into vulnerable people’s homes, wtf?!

AIBU to be furious that this isn’t illegal?
SchadenfreudePersonified · 29/04/2021 06:29

He's a cheeky bastard, LittleRa

He needs his come-uppance!

lemmein · 29/04/2021 08:17

Haven't read the full thread but wouldn't this come under anti-social behaviour?

If there's no law covering this then there needs to be pronto. People (men 🙄) should not be allowed to terrorise vulnerable people like that.

The photo you posted OP would creep me out - it's quite threatening, especially if you're not aware it's a social media stunt. I didn't even know this was a thing - unbelievable.

Butchyrestingface · 29/04/2021 09:18

I watch quite a lot of the Urban Exploring videos on Youtube. But in 99% of cases, they are genuinely uninhabited buildings.

I've seen a few videos though where it's highly Hmm as to whether the property is actually abandoned, as opposed to perhaps the owner being away on holiday and the poster has been widely lambasted in the comments section for essentially trespassing on someone's actual home.

In one case, a group of explorers were challenged before they got anywhere near the actual property by the very upset and irate owner. Turns out his property had been listed on a local UE website as abandoned and 'good for a visit' when it was actually being lived in. He was now having to ward off attempts by multiple eager beavers to enter his home to explore it on a regular basis, poor man. Sad

CarmelBeach · 29/04/2021 09:22

Haven't caught up

OP there is a legal board you could post this

There must be a way this can be dealt with legally....

fuzzyduck1 · 29/04/2021 10:16

Take screenshots of the Facebook pages as evidence

YetAnotherHastyNameChange · 29/04/2021 11:10

The police are aware of his FB page fuzzyduck. It looks like he’s taken down the photos of the house of the lady I know, which is something at least I guess.

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YetAnotherHastyNameChange · 29/04/2021 11:14

His latest set of photos are from a house where 3 pensioners were murdered by a schizophrenic man less than 2 years ago. They were real people with family and friends and neighbours who were killed in awful circumstances and he’s rifling through all their belongings. It makes me want to scream.

AIBU to be furious that this isn’t illegal?
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Exhaustd · 29/04/2021 11:52

What a vulture he is.

StarCat2020 · 29/04/2021 12:03

This goes against everything that the urbex community stands for.

Urbex is about photographing empty derelict buildings in order to keep a record of them, for example derelict hospitals and asylums.

This twat is taking the piss and trying to make himself out to be part of something that he isn't just to try and legitimise his disgusting behaviour.

TheQueef · 29/04/2021 12:05

I don't normally agree with vigilantism but I make an exception for this cunt.
He needs his conscience readjusting.

What a scummy man.

NameChangedForThisFeb21 · 29/04/2021 13:08

Arghhhhh. This is making me so angry. What a vulture. I wish the Daily Mail would get hold of this - it’s absolutely disgusting.

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 29/04/2021 13:26

He makes my skin crawl. Nasty little parasite. That home where three pensioners were murdered, recently, he's loving it. Vile creepy little twat.

123becauseicouldntthinkofone · 29/04/2021 13:31


I commented on a similar face book video, that as there was no dust on the sufaces, even though the furniture, clothes and carpets were old fashioned, it was obviously cared for, and possibly lived in. I suggested they renamed the page 'Nosey young men breaking in and disrespecting peoples homes' however my comment was immediately deleted.

@queenMab99, tell us which site so we can all bombard the weirdos them with the same message :)
StarCat2020 · 29/04/2021 13:55

I wish the Daily Mail would get hold of this - it’s absolutely disgusting
Why not send them the story then?

[email protected]

RedcurrantPuff · 29/04/2021 13:57


His latest set of photos are from a house where 3 pensioners were murdered by a schizophrenic man less than 2 years ago. They were real people with family and friends and neighbours who were killed in awful circumstances and he’s rifling through all their belongings. It makes me want to scream.

Oh that’s vile :(
NameChangedForThisFeb21 · 29/04/2021 14:06


I wish the Daily Mail would get hold of this - it’s absolutely disgusting
Why not send them the story then?

[email protected]

I will if you will!
StarCat2020 · 29/04/2021 14:16

I will if you will!
I don't mind emailing them with a link to this thread but I don't want to upset anyone.

Do you think that this would be a good idea or not?

aiwblam · 29/04/2021 15:10

I’m no lawyer, however it seems in this case that his civil wrong of trespassing has resulted in the lady feeling unable to go home. That should be worthy of damages.

I’d publicise this on SM and see if you can get a someone to pick it up.

What a total piece of shit the guy is.

Elefant1 · 29/04/2021 15:32

That is crazy. My partner has been a victim of one of these urban explorers filming on his land. They claimed it was abandoned but climbed up a bank onto the land rather than going a bit further and walking through the gate as that is right by his house, so filming that would have made it rather obvious it was not abandoned. There are valuable items on the land and though they didn't state exactly where it was there were enough clues, partner is very worried he is now going to have issues with theft. Oh and they traveled from over 2 hours away in the middle of lockdown!

ImJustNotSure · 29/04/2021 15:41

Sent him a message.

He probably doesn't give a fuck.

Your poor friend OP. Hoping he'll get his karma.

It's a shame as I don't mind wondering around the old very much abandoned former factory.

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