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Nightmare neighbours

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RainbowBriteUk · 25/04/2021 20:43

I have been in my current property, a rental, since October last year. It's been a tough year. Redundancy, cancer and a few breakdowns. I thought I was finally settled in life.

NDN's, a man and a woman in their mid-fifties are noisy fuckers. They don't think anything of turning their telly up and every nice day they play music in their back garden so it's been a fair few weeks now. Also lots of shouting, DIY and generally being loud. Difficult when I am WFH and I would love to sit in the garden without their shitty music. However, for the sake of a neighbourly relationship I say nothing. They get pissed in their garden which is fine but become very loud. I've said nothing so far.

Today, I was trying to work. I was irked that they'd had their music on fairly loud since 10am in the garden. They then turned it up. I calmly went out and asked the man to turn it down as I was working and on a work call and the music meant I couldn't hear properly and concentrate and thanked him. It went down for a few seconds and then he turned it mega loud, put the speaker by my back door (fence seperates) and it's still on now.

I have had a few difficult years in rentals so finally hoped I had found somewhere to settle :( I have emailed the agency to let them know what happened but I am scared this is going to be it for ever now. He's going to do stupid things in retaliation. The music has been on very loud for going up to two hours now. Surprised no other neighbours are going off their head.

I have also found out he's been in trouble with the law for carrying an offensive weapon so quite shook up now. What can I do?

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Notsoaccidentproneanymore · 30/04/2021 10:41

Your neighbors sound awful and I really feel for you.

mintybobs · 30/04/2021 16:52

Where I live, tenants are contractually entitled to reasonable peace, comfort, or privacy in the property and the LL is not allowed to permit a breach of this. It's also a standard term that neighbours have the same right against the tenant

People who own their own homes only have limited rights to stop excessive noise from neighbours. I'm not sure why you would think LL have this superpower to just magically make annoying neighbours disappear. They have the exact same rights as people who live in their own homes and if they HAVE complained to the council and the council do jack shit then just what exactly are you expecting the LL to do?- go round there with a baseball bat perhaps?

What will happen is the council will ask the tenants to keep a log of the noise and then after that they may give them sound recording equipment to record the nuisance noise. If it isnt deemed above a certain decibel or for prolonged periods of time, the council will do nothing and it makse zero difference if the house is owned by a LL. LL have no more superpowers to get rid of nuisance neighbours than anyone else.

murbblurb · 30/04/2021 17:43

England - landlords have no power over how tenants behave (and nor should they!). The only remedy for a bad tenant is eviction, always lengthy and currently impossible.

Scottish landlords are responsible for tenant behaviour although they still don't actually have any powers. Beyond having the property taken over by the council. (!!)

WornOutPaterfamilias · 30/04/2021 18:13

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user1471538283 · 02/05/2021 14:11

It is never just a couple of hours a week! With my ex neighbours a good day, not week, was 6 hours. Often it was 10 hours. Of soul shaking, loud shit music. With shouting over the top. And parties.

I'm still so distressed by my experience it has taken me months to even play music quietly in my car and if I hear music my anxiety starts.

osbertthesyrianhamster · 02/05/2021 15:55

@RainbowBriteUk

Is it really a couple of hours though? My neighbours can have theirs on in the garden for up to ten hours. It's a living nightmare. He also has it on whilst using his power tools so can't even hear it and also when they go out. I don't use the word often but cunts is the only woRd to describe them.

It never is. ANYONE who inflicts their music on other people is a straight up arse. It's a rude arse, inconsiderate thing to do ever. They all see 'it's just a couple of hours'. Bullshit. NO ONE wants to be subjected to your music. Ever.

Seymour5 · 02/05/2021 17:28

I agree osbert. Grass cutting, hedge trimming are necessary and not daily occurrences. There should be some legislation to restrict the behaviour of those entited, selfish, horrible people who inflict THEIR noise on the rest of us.

I grew up in a flat, 1950s, and we never wore outdoor shoes inside, we didn't run indoors and the radio was never loud. We had neighbours to consider. What has changed?

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RainbowBriteUk · 03/05/2021 12:06

Entitlement is what's changed. Same neighbour parks his van outside my back gate every night. What's wrong with parking outside his own? I need access soon for something that won't fit in through the front and I'm really anxious about it because after the tirade or ear numbing music in retaliation last week I'm imagining he won't be so forthcoming in moving his van when I need him to. It's a back alley behind our houses that we all use to wheel our bins out. Except for him. He uses it for his van and causes a bloody mess with his building materials.

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Jennifer2021 · 04/05/2021 12:33

Absolutely @RainbowBriteUk that's what we found here. It's the entitlement that's staggering.

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RainbowBriteUk · 10/05/2021 21:25

I have decided to move but i'm really stressed by it and very tearful. Silly, I know! I love my current house but the neighbours are literally 'noise' from 6am til 10pm ish and later. There's no respite.

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CoraPirbright · 10/05/2021 22:04

Def move OP. And, on moving day, post a turd through their letterbox.

osbertthesyrianhamster · 10/05/2021 22:18

We had a criminal and his girlfriend move in below us and we're going ot have to move, too, after 11 years in here. It's an HA flat and they just don't give a toss about all of us.

osbertthesyrianhamster · 10/05/2021 22:20

I am so sick of other people's fucking music I wish them all the worst in life. I really do.

Slippy78 · 10/05/2021 22:23

Have you found out when the fixed term of your tenancy ends yet? If you move out on or before that date then you don't need to give your LL any notice at all....
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Byllis · 10/05/2021 22:42

Making the decision to move is the first step to ending this. Try and visit potential new homes at different times of the day - if no blasting music, then even if the house or flat isn’t as nice or convenient as this one, I’m sure you’ll be happier.

Completely agree with pps that a lot of people are just more entitled now. I’m amazed at what some posters think is ‘normal household noise’ on these neighbour threads.

Goldieloxx · 10/05/2021 22:57

I would move but complain to your council before you do, if your neighbours rent then complain to their landlord too, also tell your landlord it's why he/she is losing a good tenant

ItsGotABitOfPink · 11/05/2021 07:37

Some people are such inconsiderate idiots.
I hope they get their comeuppance with whoever moves in when you leave.

I'm sorry you have to leave your home op. I hope you find somewhere where you are happy and can be settled.

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RainbowBriteUk · 11/05/2021 22:08

U really don't want to leave. It's making me incredibly sad. I love my home here and it's beautiful.

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RainbowBriteUk · 11/05/2021 22:20

I'm just tired of the neighbours winning. So very tired of it and of moving.

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RainbowBriteUk · 13/05/2021 09:16

I am concerned about them throwing things over the fence when they know I've left the property and the LL thinking it's me who has left stuff in the back yard. Is the best way to avoid this to take photos with the date on before I hand the property back over?

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osbertthesyrianhamster · 13/05/2021 10:08

@RainbowBriteUk

Yes! Date stamped photos and video of the entire property, do a walk-through. Do another with the letting agent.

I honestly feel that blasting music should be an offence.

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RainbowBriteUk · 13/05/2021 13:37

Thank you @osbertthesyrianhamster. I will do those things you've suggested.

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dameofdilemma · 13/05/2021 15:57

asktenants.co.uk/

You could also tell your landlord/agency that you'll be leaving an honest review here (and to anyone who comes to view the property) and they may find it difficult to re-let?

njg575 · 07/06/2021 11:16

I know what its like to hope for rain throughout the summer. Noise from neighbours can make you very ill indeed.

We had to go to the council as next door decided to rent it out by the room to unemployed losers with dj decks. Even though it was a pain having to record every occurence and then have the recording equipment everywhere, we did get a good result. A noise abatement order was put in the place and if they made noise again they would be fined. The tenents moved out pretty quickly after that. The landlord also said she doesn't want to go through that again.

Our other neighbours have 5 kids who make noise and BBQ but at least we can get away from it inside.

HYDE42117 · 09/07/2021 08:07

Hello, I'm looking to see if anyone has had any joy when they have put in a complaint about a problem neighbour to their local council? We have lived in our current home for almost 9 months. The house is amazing. But we have a neighbour from hell. He shouts and screams all day. I'm not in all the time as I work. But it's also throughout the night. He will suddenly start shouting, screaming, clapping and 3-4 in the morning.
I have found out that he doesn't suffer with mental health he's just an a*hole.
Has anyone actually put in a complaint and the council has actually done something about a neighbour like this?
I've looked into it and I know you have to keep a diary which I have started after trying to speak to him about the problem. - he's extremely rude.
And I've also read that you won't get much joy unless 3 or more neighbours complain.
We have a mortgage on our house and also found out that he also owns his house unfortunately.
Please can someone give some advice, the situation is starting to effect my mental health.

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