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CSA debts written off

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ijustgiveup · 15/04/2021 12:39

Am I the only one wondering how a company can write debts off not owed to them?

My friend who has been fighting for years has called me devastated. She received a letter stating the CSA has written off the debt owed to her and her children to the tune of £24k!

I got my letter last year and mine was £7k.
How is this allowed? Both ex husbands are still not paying either

OP posts:
alphabetti · 15/04/2021 13:14

My case changed from CSA to CMS and although they are useless too I did receive a letter asking me to say if I wanted the debt to still stand or be written off. I chose to keep it on the basis of its my children’s money so why should their dad refuse to pay the minimum then it never be enforced, plus it’s on his record he still owes as refused to pay. I would make a complaint to CMS and contact your MP about it.

Happycat1212 · 15/04/2021 13:17

I had £1000 written off so nowhere near as much but that's because my ex only pays £7 per week yet they decided they would never get £1000 hardly a massive amount 🤦

User2938478 · 15/04/2021 13:21

Same thing happened me, the money being transferred over isn't the same @alphabetti they do that as standard asking you if you want it to be transferred over.
The writing off of debt is happening to alot of cases at the moment.
It's disgusting.

User2938478 · 15/04/2021 13:23

Oh and I am with CMS they wrote my debt off, claims should be transferred over to CMS by now.

Saladd0dger · 15/04/2021 13:23

This happened to my sister a couple years ago. I think once in my nieces life he paid £3 one week and that’s it. Disgusting this is happening.

Mumoftwoinprimary · 15/04/2021 13:28

I wonder how often the government writes off council tax, inland revenue debts and speeding fines?

AmandaHoldensLips · 15/04/2021 13:30

Avoiding child support payments should be made a criminal offence punishable by prison.

There is no way to make a parent pay for their child if they don't want to.

Justcallmebebes · 15/04/2021 13:34

I wonder how often the government writes off council tax, inland revenue debts and speeding fines?

^this. This country is a disgrace for the way in which they allow absent parents to fiddle the system and get out of paying any maintenance. I had the same with my ex. He never paid a penny and the state didn't care a jot.

We should adopt the American system of jail and taking away your driving licence for failure to pay

upthekyber · 15/04/2021 13:38

@AmandaHoldensLips

Avoiding child support payments should be made a criminal offence punishable by prison.

There is no way to make a parent pay for their child if they don't want to.

Totally agree and it should be removed from any benefits and attached to any earnings including dividend payments and pensions. Also there should be a minimum you pay per month employed or not which accrues when you are unable to pay as obviously people do lose jobs and get ill I am not a monster! But the idea one parent gets to walk off and start producing children elsewhere when they can't afford the ones they have is ridiculous and as a tax payer I am annoyed I have to contribute for their behaviour. I am not annoyed at the rp and their children because we need to look after the children regardless of feckless parents.

I would also make expenses like childcare and school uniform a joint parenting responsibility as it really an trap the RP in poverty not being able to work.

araiwa · 15/04/2021 13:38

Patriarchy innit

Dump kids on the women, men walk away

Time for default 50/50 custody to stop this happening and make men take responsibility

Happycat1212 · 15/04/2021 13:40

Time for default 50/50 custody to stop this happening and make men take responsibility

How does that work when the other parent is absent (through choice)

I'm cancelling the cm we receive anyway as it's an insult

Theunamedcat · 15/04/2021 13:48

Its very damaging to children to force non compliant fathers into there lives if they arnt going to pay for there mother to look after them they arnt going to pay to look after them in there own time either my ex classic example of "his rights" sees his kids won't feed them deliberately arranges to see them around meal times lies about his income so he only gets to pay £7 a week im shocked he hasn't denied paternity to get out of it

knittingaddict · 15/04/2021 14:00

@araiwa

Patriarchy innit

Dump kids on the women, men walk away

Time for default 50/50 custody to stop this happening and make men take responsibility

Don't be so daft. The last thing my grandchildren need is more exposure to their abusive dad. Not to mention the 2 hour distance.

He does pay child support, which is something I guess.

Making men take more care of children that they can't even be bothered to pay for would be potentially damaging to the children and it's them that come first.

Happycat1212 · 15/04/2021 14:03

I've seen the 50/50 thing said a lot but it's like these people don't realise that not everyone sees or wants to see their kids so how can you force them?

OverTheRubicon · 15/04/2021 14:14

@Mumoftwoinprimary

I wonder how often the government writes off council tax, inland revenue debts and speeding fines?
Exactly this.
MrsClatterbuck · 15/04/2021 14:15

@Mumoftwoinprimary

I wonder how often the government writes off council tax, inland revenue debts and speeding fines?
This
FireflyRainbow · 15/04/2021 14:16

They wrote to us when they changed company and we had to confirm we wanted them to take on the debt owed to us.

FireflyRainbow · 15/04/2021 14:17

I has to call to say yes, please take my debt on that the old company have against my ex.

QuestionableDanceMoves · 15/04/2021 14:23

The whole system is a disgrace and makes it far too easy for parents to walk away from their responsibilities
It’s also atrocious that the calculated amount gets reduced if the nrp has more children or moves in with someone who has children- the cost of raising the existing children doesn’t go down

Theunamedcat · 15/04/2021 14:34

My daughters dad owes £100 they wrote to me asking to write it off I said no they said but what if it shows up on his credit report I said tough its £100 he has had 7 years to pay it off SEVEN BLOODY YEARS (its longer now) he did say that I might need support with my "anger" (I didnt shout i was just clear) he left it on the system but I think its been wiped now

getyourfreakon · 15/04/2021 15:14

I had this letter about a month ago, they want to write off around £600. I filled in the form stating I do not want them to do this but there's no guarantee they won't just do it anyway. There's no right to appeal the decision either. It's disgusting.

Rukaya · 15/04/2021 15:29

Time for default 50/50 custody to stop this happening and make men take responsibility

Fuck that. Time to default to garnishing the bastards wages and jail men who fail to pay their debts to their children.

blueluce85 · 15/04/2021 16:25

OK... So i dont have cms issues (so one of the lucky ones... Although he is keen to tell me when it needs to go down.. When his contact went up but i haven't heard of any pay rises... But that's an aside...)
What the hell can we do about this? This is disgusting that this is allowed to happen. Is there anyone on here with experience that could advise on how this could be escalated en mass to make them stand up and listen???

FreedFromHomeSchooling · 15/04/2021 16:34

50:50 is definitely not the answer. Not for most people for various reasons. Direct payment taken from wages / prison for non-payment is what I’d like to see.

dignifiedfarewell · 15/04/2021 17:17

It should never be written off so when they die - you can charge their estates and at least the DCS get something they should have done from the amoral wankers

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