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Needy MIL?

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BroadBeer · 12/04/2021 16:05

Hey everyone. I just need a bit of advice...
long winded one I’m afraid.

my mother in law who I think for the most part is fab, is becoming more & more of a (hate to use the word) burden on my husband (her son)

My husband & I are in the middle of a home renovation, we both work all the hours god sends and we have two children under the age of 10.
Life like everyone’s is super hectic, but we manage for the most part.

My mother & father in law seem to have tunnel vision at times and I think are forgetting how manic life for younger families can be.

Recently they both moved into a new rented home, without selling their old one first. In their words they just “needed a new start”... problem is, the sale of that house has now fallen directly onto the shoulders of my husband. He’s been a champ & just dealt with it. The house was in a massive state, the garden was so over grown, and whilst they are only in their late 50s and with no real medical conditions, they said that “people with clean houses are dull people”, so have never really kept the house in a decent state.

My husband organised a estate agent, who said that if the place wasn’t cleared it would have a massive knock on in the sale price. So me & my husband spent weeks & weeks cutting back the garden, spent money on TWO skips, cleaned the house from top to bottom with zero help from the in laws. They didn’t even try and ask for help with childcare...

We asked if they could spare a day here or there to help with the cleaning and their reply was they just couldn’t manage it. Despite the fact they have built (themselves) in their new house, a huge shed, landscaped their new garden (like the old house is already looking like a jungle) & even put in a massive new pond in with all sorts of fish etc (they’ve managed that and loads more)

We finally managed to get it sold, and it’s been dragging due to some issues with the buyers buyers. My MIL is constantly on the phone to my husband, crying stressed that she has to pay two lots of council tax & rent along with mortgages (we have said they were daft to move before selling but as usual we get the company line “we need a change”)

Another thing now is, they own two other properties and the tenants of one has decided to leave. MIL & FIL asked my husband again to go down & sort any issues out (my husband has always had to take charge of these properties upkeep as they are just away with the fairies)

Now they want to sell this property, and has asked my husband to go down clear, clean, (it was left a state again) the place and pop it on the market for sale again.

My husband has an older brother, who has recently had a baby so hasn’t helped with anything. And a step brother who is as much use as a chocolate teaspoon.

In recent days I’ve found my husband to be more short tempted, withdrawn & basically running around like a headless chicken.

He works so many hours a week, we have our kitchen going in, and other works going on, two children who he doesn’t have time for presently (he’s an incredible father) and I am just worried.

She’s on the phone with him constantly & whilst I’d never ever begrudge helping them, I personally feel they are taking liberties now.

Even though I really get along with them, on reflection I’ve noticed that anytime there is an issue, crises or problem they instantly put forward my husband to help.

I’ve talked to him about this & whilst he is annoyed at them for constantly making work for him, he says that they are his parents so has too.

Should I A) respect what my husband is saying and watch his health decline or B) have a word with the in laws.
I really don’t want to rock the boat, but they just don’t seem to have any sense of what pressure they are putting on him.

Any advice would be great. Thank you.

OP posts:
FoggyDay58 · 12/04/2021 16:10

YANBU they sound quite literally like hard work.

BroadBeer · 12/04/2021 16:12

They are both 😭

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Mary46 · 12/04/2021 16:15

They do sound hard work. I think the more you do the demands get extra.. not sure how approach it though. My mother thinks everyones day revolves around her only

SissySpacekAteMyHamster · 12/04/2021 16:17

They are in their 50s! Massive pisstakers IMHO.

What reason do they give for not just selling/cleaning/dealing with their own affairs?

I'd be asking my husband if he can image himself putting so much stress on one of his kids in future.

God help him when they actually get to an age when they need assistance.

custardbear · 12/04/2021 16:17

Pay someone to come in and clear the place - well the ILs need to pay!
Just tell them it's too much for you, they'll have to do it or pay someone else - job done

cptartapp · 12/04/2021 16:18

He doesn't 'have to' do anything for them. And I'd be mightily annoyed he's so keen on pleasing them over you and his DC. An incredible father has time for his DC. These are years with them he won't get back.
He'll have likely been brainwashed by his parents over the years. This will only get worse as they older and when one is left alone. His brother and step brother are making different choices to you and will live their lives more happily and stress free as a result. Good on them.
Your DH has to learn to say no and prioritise his own family. Set a precedent now before it gets worse.

BroadBeer · 12/04/2021 16:18

It is a difficult one. I love them to pieces, but I just wish they’d give the poor bloke a rest for a few days.

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WithLoveFromMyselfToYourself · 12/04/2021 16:21

Why did you both get involved when the estate agents said the sale price would be affected by the scruffiness? That’s on them and their business surely?
He needs to practise saying “Poor you, sounds like a nightmare! Sorry I can’t help you out but I’ve got enough on my plate.”
Nobody can force you to have the level of involvement you are both taking on. If you are doing it partly with a view to maximising your DH’s potential inheritance then it’s a totally different matter and a price you pay and a risk you run.

Just sympathise and let them sort it out like the adults they are. If they don’t then that’s down to them, stop enabling them.

BroadBeer · 12/04/2021 16:21

He is an incredible father, but when you have your mother crying on the phone to you stressed out of her wits... I can imagine it’s hard to say no. Especially as she’s had a very difficult life - I think my husband it just trying his best by her.

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Notonthestairs · 12/04/2021 16:21

They should pay for a third party to clean and clear the rented house.

Your husband need to learn some boundaries - you can talk to him about how you feel he's behaving and the knock on impact on you/your family but it really has to come from him.

I can't believe they are only in their late 50's!

Disfordarkchocolate · 12/04/2021 16:24

Rock the bloody boat.

Tell them to shape up or expect very limited support in the future. If your husband doesn't do it they will have too.

BroadBeer · 12/04/2021 16:25

Thanks for the replies, I’ll have a word.

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SissySpacekAteMyHamster · 12/04/2021 16:26

Also, why is she ringing crying to your husband when she has her own?

Enough4me · 12/04/2021 16:29

They are pisstakers, you've both been lovely but you need to prioritise your family/home/work etc.

1Morewineplease · 12/04/2021 16:30

@SissySpacekAteMyHamster

Also, why is she ringing crying to your husband when she has her own?
Yes... why? It's because she's manipulating your husband.
eatsleepread · 12/04/2021 16:32

Wow, you and your husband sound lovely, and they sound like liberty-taking pains in the arse!

Milkshake7489 · 12/04/2021 16:32

Bloody hell OP they are in their 50's?!

I'd support your husband in establishing some boundaries. Both of you need to prioritise your young family... not a couple of 50 somethings!

Bluedeblue · 12/04/2021 16:37

I have just done something identical for my Dad, the HUGE difference being that I am in my 50's and my Dad is almost 80! He was moving in to a retirement home, and was completely incapable of doing anything to facilitate this, so it fell to me.

I am BLOWN away that they are in their 50's and acting this way. They are capable of doing stuff, as witnessed by all the stuff they are doing at their new home. Your DH needs to say "No". Why isn't he?

katy1213 · 12/04/2021 16:39

Bloody hell, they're in their 50s? Anyone feel like coming round to give me a bit of a bit of geriatric home care? I'm over 60 and I've never enjoyed housework.

FlorrieLindley · 12/04/2021 16:39

Do they work?

LookItsMeAgain · 12/04/2021 16:39

Your DH would have to say "I can't look after the sale of the house mum until it is clean and clear of any rubbish and overgrown plants etc. The last sale took a lot out of me and I can't divert the time at the moment to repeating the process. You'll have to find a local X, Y and Z service provider/skip provider/gardener/whatever to get the ball rolling. When you've arranged that, you'll need to be there to let them in. I've already said that I can't be there at the moment, so you'll have to do it".
Keep repeating the "I can't be there at the moment so you'll have to do it".
It's crazy that your FiL isn't helping.
Or
Your DH could find the name and details of a property management company and give that to your parents. Tell them that if they need to sell/rent out any properties they are to contact the property management company directly. But in all fairness, I'd probably go with the broken record of "I can't do it right now but you can" kind of response.

Serendipity79 · 12/04/2021 16:41

He needs to start being assertive - and its really hard when you're a kind people pleasing sort of person.

My mums a nightmare - in her 60's and totally helpless. Has two of my adult siblings living at home, yet they will ring me for anything that needs doing, or when they need money even thought I work full time, and I am a single parent with 3 school age children and 1 adult child plus a grandchild on the way.

Recently, inspired a bit by a fall out within the family, and equally by Mumsnet people I've learnt to say "No, sorry that wont work for us" when asked if I will start visiting weekly again then when I had to listen to money woes for what feels like the 35th year running I said "Oh that's a shame, yes Covid has impacted us all hasn't it" and at frequent points where I've been fed up on video calls I've just stared blankly at her until she finishes moaning and then I say " I have to go now, talk again soon".

I am positive she thinks I'm having some kind of episode but tbh I've never felt better for putting my own MH first! Your DH needs some of this inspiration - he needs to start putting his own health first or it will make him poorly all these demands on him from people who should be very capable to do it all themselves!

EL8888 · 12/04/2021 16:41

I would decline from here on in to get involved, they are demanding and need to take responsibility for themselves. They either need to sort it out (they sound capable but don’t seem to want to), pay someone or cajole other family members into doing it. People often forget how busy other people’s lives are. They most likely will only get worse. What is it with them constantly moving house?! Moving house is a lot of effort and they have been too shielded from it for the last few moves

Personally l can relate to this as my mum is on my case about sorting my auntie moving house. For clarity my fiancé and l are also moving house, are having IVF, l have long COVID / bad anaemia and both have demanding jobs. Neither mum or auntie work, so have literally all the time in the world. I have declined and explained l have too much on my plate right now. I can sense my mum is re-grouping and getting ready to put the big guilts on me Confused. Then try to get my brother to get me to do it. Of course he lives abroad and doesn’t get involved!

SloopyDoodle · 12/04/2021 16:42

Wow what the heck, my in laws are in their 60s but still came and helped us move into our house, carrying furniture etc. They helped my dp put together our shed last summer. It's really sad/emotionally manipulative they would put this much pressure on their son, esp in their 50s...

ElBandito · 12/04/2021 16:43

They are in their fifties. Unless they have health problems you could potentially have another 40 to 50 years of this. The more your husband does the more they will become dependent on him and the less capable they will become.
It's funny how they can manage to do the fun stuff but not the grunt work isn't it?

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