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AIBU?

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Needy MIL?

67 replies

BroadBeer · 12/04/2021 16:05

Hey everyone. I just need a bit of advice...
long winded one I’m afraid.

my mother in law who I think for the most part is fab, is becoming more & more of a (hate to use the word) burden on my husband (her son)

My husband & I are in the middle of a home renovation, we both work all the hours god sends and we have two children under the age of 10.
Life like everyone’s is super hectic, but we manage for the most part.

My mother & father in law seem to have tunnel vision at times and I think are forgetting how manic life for younger families can be.

Recently they both moved into a new rented home, without selling their old one first. In their words they just “needed a new start”... problem is, the sale of that house has now fallen directly onto the shoulders of my husband. He’s been a champ & just dealt with it. The house was in a massive state, the garden was so over grown, and whilst they are only in their late 50s and with no real medical conditions, they said that “people with clean houses are dull people”, so have never really kept the house in a decent state.

My husband organised a estate agent, who said that if the place wasn’t cleared it would have a massive knock on in the sale price. So me & my husband spent weeks & weeks cutting back the garden, spent money on TWO skips, cleaned the house from top to bottom with zero help from the in laws. They didn’t even try and ask for help with childcare...

We asked if they could spare a day here or there to help with the cleaning and their reply was they just couldn’t manage it. Despite the fact they have built (themselves) in their new house, a huge shed, landscaped their new garden (like the old house is already looking like a jungle) & even put in a massive new pond in with all sorts of fish etc (they’ve managed that and loads more)

We finally managed to get it sold, and it’s been dragging due to some issues with the buyers buyers. My MIL is constantly on the phone to my husband, crying stressed that she has to pay two lots of council tax & rent along with mortgages (we have said they were daft to move before selling but as usual we get the company line “we need a change”)

Another thing now is, they own two other properties and the tenants of one has decided to leave. MIL & FIL asked my husband again to go down & sort any issues out (my husband has always had to take charge of these properties upkeep as they are just away with the fairies)

Now they want to sell this property, and has asked my husband to go down clear, clean, (it was left a state again) the place and pop it on the market for sale again.

My husband has an older brother, who has recently had a baby so hasn’t helped with anything. And a step brother who is as much use as a chocolate teaspoon.

In recent days I’ve found my husband to be more short tempted, withdrawn & basically running around like a headless chicken.

He works so many hours a week, we have our kitchen going in, and other works going on, two children who he doesn’t have time for presently (he’s an incredible father) and I am just worried.

She’s on the phone with him constantly & whilst I’d never ever begrudge helping them, I personally feel they are taking liberties now.

Even though I really get along with them, on reflection I’ve noticed that anytime there is an issue, crises or problem they instantly put forward my husband to help.

I’ve talked to him about this & whilst he is annoyed at them for constantly making work for him, he says that they are his parents so has too.

Should I A) respect what my husband is saying and watch his health decline or B) have a word with the in laws.
I really don’t want to rock the boat, but they just don’t seem to have any sense of what pressure they are putting on him.

Any advice would be great. Thank you.

OP posts:
KD99 · 12/04/2021 16:43

they are taking the piss and you need to take a step back. they are young enough to get on with it themselves

twinmum2007 · 12/04/2021 16:45

In their late 50s?!!!! Blimey. They are CFs of the highest order. My DH and I get a bit of this with both our DMs, but then they are in their 90s!! You need to get your DH to either stand up to them a bit or to learn to let it slide off his back a bit more. They will be unberable by the time they get to their 80s if you let them carry on like this.
@LookItsMeAgain has the right idea

DeciduousPerennial · 12/04/2021 16:51

They’re not needy, they’re lazy.

This won’t improve until your husband starts saying ‘no’ to them. His brother seems to do it, why can’t he?

Rukaya · 12/04/2021 16:55

My husband has an older brother, who has recently had a baby so hasn’t helped with anything. And a step brother who is as much use as a chocolate teaspoon

Don't blame them because they have more sense than you! You CHOSE to do all of their work for them. You asked them to help you clean their house?
Do you have some kind of extreme people pleasing issue? Because what you have willingly done for them is absolute madness, it would be if they were 80 and frail, but they are in their 50's?
You are out of your minds doing so much for them, but you chose to do it, so don't blame anyone else!

BrownEyedGirl80 · 12/04/2021 16:55

It's cheeky as fuck.Its their houses,their problem imo.My dp in their late 60s wouldn't dream of putting on me or db for anything like this.

Member984815 · 12/04/2021 16:55

I thought they would be older, my parents are around the same age and wouldn't dream of asking any of us to do this

Pupster21 · 12/04/2021 16:56

Your DH needs to say no. Their house being worth more if cleared should be an incentive for them to do. What incentive did your DH get? Why didn’t you ask them to pay for the skip? And why didn’t you say we’ll do it but you need to look after the kids?

Ellpellwood · 12/04/2021 16:58

Hmm.

I'd tempted to ring her and "cry" about how worried you are about all the pressure he's under.

Hhusky · 12/04/2021 17:02

Honestly your DH needs to talk with them and set boundaries. I really feel for you OP. My FiL is mid fifties and has some fairly serious medical conditions and MiL is fine medically but very lazy and an absolute martyr. Anytime anything needs done it has always fallen on DH's shoulders, including massive home renovations! He did do a lot but he then demanded that skips needs to be hired, actual tradesmen out for jobs he couldn't manage etc. After DH and I lost our son last year they backed off for a bit but that was shortlived. He has had a proper chat with them now about boundaries (esp as he's one of four) and does what he can, and what he can realistically manage.
They sound like absolutely pisstakers as they're late 50s rather than 70s or more, surely they are capable of a bit more than they're letting on. Trust me though he does need to sit then down with them and discuss his boundaries and what he can and can't do.

Unsure33 · 12/04/2021 17:13

I had to move my parents and they are in their 90s and even I employed someone to clear the house and the garden because I know I would not have time . Luckily they had the funds . It was bad enough doing all the paperwork let alone all the clearance .

You just have to say NO . You are too busy and its important your husband has time and energy to do his work properly as well .

they presumably have saved money from the rentals - so they can pay to sort it . If he wants to make sure they use reputable recommended companies then fair enough . But that is ALL he can do .

you have done enough .

lockdownalli · 12/04/2021 17:20

I have voted YABU because I just cannot understand why you said yes.

RandomMess · 12/04/2021 17:23

They have the money to PAY others to do this for them!!

You have a DH problem, he need to read up of FOG fear obligation guilt and start saying NO.

They are in their 50s not frail, poor or incapable just lazy & selfish.

starfishmummy · 12/04/2021 17:32

Google some house ckearance/ckeaning firms in the area and give them details. Job done.

PicaK · 12/04/2021 18:16

Part of the rental income is to cover work done between tenants. So he shouldn't feel guilty about at all about finding them numbers of gardeners, cleaners etc and getting them to sort it before it goes on the market.
He can help, he can support. But what he shouldn't be doing is running himself into the ground.
Can you make him a Dr appt? Put him on phone to Dr and tell him he's exhausted. Because he is - it's affecting his mood etc. Sometimes it's easier to say the Dr says I need to rest at weekends etc than to make that call yourself.

1Morewineplease · 12/04/2021 18:25

I'm not an advocate of showing a thread to someone that is directly affected by an issue but maybe you could snapshot a few highlights?

Like many in their fifties, we have had to sort out properties, rent out/sell/deal with probate etc.

Your in-laws really need to take control of their own lives . They clearly have their heads in the sand because they know that darling son will take over when mum has a cry on his shoulder about how (un) vulnerable they are.

This issue is affecting your marriage and family life. Your husband needs to be confronted with this knowledge.

WrongKindOfFace · 12/04/2021 18:26

@starfishmummy

Google some house ckearance/ckeaning firms in the area and give them details. Job done.
And that’s being generous. They are not infirm and incapable. They are blatant piss takers.
shutterteal · 12/04/2021 18:29

They are completely taking the piss out of you.
Late 50's!!!!!
It's fine to help them but they need to pay someone to do the donkey work. House clearance, cleaners, etc are all readily available.
I just can't get over their ages and inability to get things done.

Sceptre86 · 12/04/2021 18:36

Normally I would say leave them all to it but seeing as it is having on impact on your family life I would have a word and explain how much you both have on your plate and remind them that they have two other children. If they have a few properties they aren't hard up and can pay to arrange someone to get the other property ready for sale.

They aren't old and helpless, being in their late 50s. Most parents do not want to burden their kods with their issues, even though your dh will do his best to help they are not his sole responsibility. His mum having a hard life isn't his fault, at some point she is going to need to start helping and taking responsibility for herself.

JellyNo15 · 12/04/2021 18:42

They are awful. You need to stop this now or how bad will it be in twenty years time. DH and I are in our fifties and we help our DC out with childcare and home improvements in their homes, while also shopping, cleaning at. for my elderly mum. Your in -laws are taking the piss.

Therealjudgejudy · 12/04/2021 18:45

You and your husband are acting like a couple of door mats...and these lazy piss takers are wiping their feet all over you.

Tinydinosaur · 12/04/2021 18:55

We have this same issue. PILs are so bloody high maintenance and just pass jobs off to DH that they don't want to do but are perfectly capable of doing. We are due our first baby imminently, we really don't have the time.

I've just been gently encouraging DH to understand that his parents shouldn't be putting so much on him, that I'm not willing to share the burden of them and reminding him, more than anything, that he's a dad now, and his priority needs to be his baby, and as an extension, me, his wife. He is trying to step back, but he just has this impulse response to say yes.

Ragwort · 12/04/2021 19:02

Your DH needs to toughen up, your ILs sound totally manipulative - my DPs are in their 90s and I have to be really assertive to even get them to let me doing anything to help Grin. They would hate to be seen to be dependent on others.

Cherrysoup · 12/04/2021 19:03

I’d ask them to employ someone to clear up and ready the place for sale. Why is this your DH’s place? They’re taking the piss having managed to do tons at the new place! Go careful with your dh and telling him/persuading him this. It isn’t his problem.

SeasonFinale · 12/04/2021 19:05

Bloody hell at 56 I am close to their age!! If this current property is a rental they will have been collecting rent, they would have been able to retain the deposit if the property was left unclean to pay for an end of tenancy clean. Do not get involved.

Get your DH to say he can't help this time but no doubt they can get it professionally cleaned and the cost will be deductable from property income when it comes to tax.

Seriously they should be helping you out not them you!!

SeasonFinale · 12/04/2021 19:05

*not you them!

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