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AIBU?

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Painauchocolat189 · 06/04/2021 09:10

Has anybody on here had the (mis)fortune of one of their threads making it to the Daily Mail? Mine was published on there a fortnight ago, it was an AIBU regarding a situation with a friend.
Got a right shock when i clicked on the DM and there it was. Was scared the friend in question would read it and that I'd be outed but doesn't seem to have fortunately.
Has this happened to anyone else? How would you feel if it did?

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DrSbaitso · 06/04/2021 11:31

I actually agree that posters should be able to delete threads. I know it's annoying when something get wiped because the OP didn't get the answers they wanted, but ultimately nobody on here owes us content.

Oilpyi · 06/04/2021 11:31

I’d agree with some PP about the pile on here. There is a culture of being mean for the sake of it, misunderstanding and making personal insults. Or simply kicking people when they are down. Deleting some threads might provide a check/ balance against the culture.
I do like robust debate, I don’t mind strong disagreement... but this is rather the go to place for mindless insults which get in the way of actual debate. You get a lot of people that don’t read much, just say the nastiest thing they can for the hell of it. I’m not so much arguing #bekind... just saying it makes it mindless and boring at times. You end up abandoning threads due to the ones who just use the forum to make mindless nasty insults over and over. An OP will say something and 2/3 of each thread will ignore what they’ve said and just say nasty things like ‘I actually think the problem is you are paranoid/ selfish/ some other character flaw’ or ‘what I REALLY think happened is xyz so therefore you are a horrible liar’. You could almost write the comments and predict them in advance of reading the thread.

DrSbaitso · 06/04/2021 11:32

@Bagelsandbrie

I think it’s awful when this happens and can put people off posting and asking for help, and sometimes mumsnet can be a really great source of help. I think it’s morally really bad play on the part of the Daily Mail to pull articles from relationships or more sensitive topics, but then I guess they don’t really have ethics or morals anyway.
But it's already in the public domain. What's immoral about effectively doing a share?
Oilpyi · 06/04/2021 11:33

For example somewhere like Reddit there does seem to be more of a culture of reading posts and answering them, even if they then insult you or disagree vehemently it’s actually about the original post.

Bagelsandbrie · 06/04/2021 11:33

@DrSbaitso whether people realise it or not mumsnet is still a largely unknown section of the internet. My dh, family or older people I know wouldn’t think to read threads on the forums. The Daily Mail is far more public. Many, many people have the app. It’s a completely different audience.

Sparklingbrook · 06/04/2021 11:40

People would stop posting if OPs could delete their own thread. There would be no point. I would read a thread title and think 'well that looks the sort of thread that if they don't like the replies they'll delete it'.

Plus they would be all school teacher and threaten to delete if people don't stop being so horrid to them.

CloudFormations · 06/04/2021 11:47

It's like taking your ball and going home. Childish.

Ok, let’s use your analogy - what’s better, forcing an unhappy child to continue playing with people who are being horrible to them? Obviously not.

There’s an attitude here that if a poster has had the audacity to make a post, they’re required to accept whatever consequence comes of it. Even if that consequence is totally disproportionate (like 300 comments making insinuations about the posters motivations, manners and intelligence, or deliberately misunderstanding what has been said, or just being plain nasty). I don’t see why a poster should have to put up with that with no recourse just so mumsnet can reliably generate the content it needs to drive traffic and sell advertising space.

Sparklingbrook · 06/04/2021 11:52

*Ok, let’s use your analogy - what’s better, forcing an unhappy child to continue playing with people who are being horrible to them?

Getting the parent (in this case MNHQ to have a look at what's going on and make a decision. That's better.

CloudFormations · 06/04/2021 11:53

Getting the parent (in this case MNHQ to have a look at what's going on and make a decision. That's better.

Not in my view. I’m not a child and don’t need to be infantilised.

DrSbaitso · 06/04/2021 11:58

[quote Bagelsandbrie]@DrSbaitso whether people realise it or not mumsnet is still a largely unknown section of the internet. My dh, family or older people I know wouldn’t think to read threads on the forums. The Daily Mail is far more public. Many, many people have the app. It’s a completely different audience.[/quote]
But it's still public. It's still there for anyone in the world to find.

It's like taking an article from the public Cat Lovers website and sharing it to Dog Lovers. Sure, it's a different audience and may get a different response as a result, but it was always out there. It was public on the Internet. Why aren't dog lovers allowed to see it?

Oilpyi · 06/04/2021 12:02

@Sparklingbrook Facebook seems to thrive despite posts being deleted occasionally. Maybe people would just be forced to discuss things reasonably rather than read one line of a post and repeat the same insults they do on every thread. I think it’s worth a shot, ‘cancel the cheque’ and all that is the biggest issue here. Not the rights of those to comment and have it remain in perpetuity like it was worthy of being published for us all.

Onesoontobethree · 06/04/2021 12:03

I think if you post on AIBU you’re going to have that risk, as the lazy daily mail journalists can’t get enough of that section.

I haven’t seen health issue type posts or posts from pregnancy or parenting type sections picked up- which is a good thing of course.

Sparklingbrook · 06/04/2021 12:12

@CloudFormations

Getting the parent (in this case MNHQ to have a look at what's going on and make a decision. That's better.

Not in my view. I’m not a child and don’t need to be infantilised.

There are plenty of posters on here that are quite childish. But I have no issue in the decisions MNHQ make, I think it's fine. You would need to ask MNHQ what they think of the idea I suppose. Maybe they'll be all for it, what with deleting your own threads and a Like button we won't need to post a thing. Grin
Sparklingbrook · 06/04/2021 12:13

[quote Oilpyi]@Sparklingbrook Facebook seems to thrive despite posts being deleted occasionally. Maybe people would just be forced to discuss things reasonably rather than read one line of a post and repeat the same insults they do on every thread. I think it’s worth a shot, ‘cancel the cheque’ and all that is the biggest issue here. Not the rights of those to comment and have it remain in perpetuity like it was worthy of being published for us all.[/quote]
The moaning that goes on on here about FB is off the scale.Grin I've never had FB and never will.

Oilpyi · 06/04/2021 12:15

I haven’t seen the moaning, but I only go through blips of posting here then get bored and give up.
Whilst I don’t use Facebook loads either, it does inarguably have a huge global level of success.

SpiderinaWingMirror · 06/04/2021 12:25

Indeed.
I saw a post recently where someone was saying about mumsnet was the op's "safe space". Is it bollocks is what I thought.

thebillyotea · 06/04/2021 17:15

Ok, let’s use your analogy - what’s better, forcing an unhappy child to continue playing with people who are being horrible to them? Obviously not.

no-one is forcing the OP to keep reading the thread.

Everytime someone gets a majority telling them they are BU , they try to delete the thread.

There was an example recently where the OP was very obviously trying to derail the thread and get material to get it deleted. Hats off to MN, for once, they did not delete it!

Sparklingbrook · 06/04/2021 17:57

Yes I am not sure that comparing grown adults to unhappy children is a helpful analogy in itself really. They do not have to continue playing, they can hide the thread/shut the laptop etc Nobody has their arm up their back.

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