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To not have my second vaccine if it's effectiveness only increases by 6.5%?

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JanuaryJonez · 03/04/2021 10:44

I read in the British Medical Journal yesterday that the second Astra Zeneca jab only increases its effectiveness by another 6.5%:

www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n326

In light of all the current controversy around links to blood clots I think I might just stick with my first!

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TeenMinusTests · 03/04/2021 10:45

Why do you think you know better than the scientists?

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Helenluvsrob · 03/04/2021 10:46

Whatever ....

As be said elsewhere the biggest risk factor for clots is Covid. By miles.

That’s a 1st dose for someone else I guess

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LizzieSiddal · 03/04/2021 10:47

The “controversy” is just nonsense. You’ve got more change of getting Covid and developing a blood clot and dying, than having the vaccine and developing a blood clot and dying.

The 6.5% is better than zilch and surely also means you have antibodies for longer than of you just have a single vaccination?

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FourTeaFallOut · 03/04/2021 10:47

The second dose affords more robust longevity rather than a huge boost to effectiveness.

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TreeDice · 03/04/2021 10:49

What @FourTeaFallOut said.

It's about maintaining the protection you have for a longer period.

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TiggerTiggerBounce · 03/04/2021 10:49

Did you not read this paragraph in the article you linked?

It is not clear, however, how long protection might last with a single dose as there were too few cases after 90 days to make any meaningful judgment.

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mackleless · 03/04/2021 10:50

Who cares, do what you want

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TheQueef · 03/04/2021 10:51

So bored of these threads now.
You even provide the evidence you are ignoring in your own post.

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vodkaredbullgirl · 03/04/2021 10:53

Hmm
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PaquitaVariation · 03/04/2021 10:54

And read the actual statistics about the blood clots instead of just the headlines. 🙄

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Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 03/04/2021 10:57

The second vaccine is more about giving the antibodies longevity than boosting effectiveness. So you have some immunity for longer.

The normal amount of clots appearing in 1 million people is 2 to 16. They have vaccinated up until end of March 16 million people with AZ. Only 30 clotting episodes were found in that time.

No direct link has been found. Other than they happen to have had the jab some time before. 7 people out of the 30 died. Even if they find a link with those odds you are still 40 times more likely to die of covid if under 44 than the jab.

I can't see any reason not to have your second jab🤷‍♀️

So far every scare story about AZ have been proven wrong. I would just listen to are own experts and the different regulators around the world. Not individual countries and their choices in roll out.

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JanuaryJonez · 03/04/2021 10:59

I didn't realise it was to do with longevity. Thanks for the info!

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partyatthepalace · 03/04/2021 11:10

It’s about length of protection OP - that’s why the government is doing second doses, it’s not just for fun.

It’s important to have it because it’s long term protection for everyone, not just you. And as a pp said the risk of blood clots is tiny - you are far more likely to get them from covid.

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shivawn · 03/04/2021 11:12

You're not fully vaccinated without your second dose, in the future this might mean you're not allowed in to certain countries etc.

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JustSleepAlready · 03/04/2021 11:23

So instead of trying to stop death we are inviting it into our lives early? We don’t really have small pox, mumps etc anymore because we vaccinated. 5 minutes reading strangers’ opinions inline surely doesn’t outweigh the scientists experience and knowledge? They have taken knowledge already ascertained from previous vaccines to ensure this is the best it can’t be as of right now. I for sure will get both when it’s my turn. Every vaccine has side effects. But THOSE risks don’t outweigh the benefits IMO.

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littlepattilou · 03/04/2021 11:28

But you won't be marked up (on your vaccine card or vaccine passport) as completing the vaccination. It could cause issues further down the road.

Seems daft not to. As people have said, the chances of the vaccine harming you, are WAY lower than the harm covid may cause!

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NinePremium · 03/04/2021 11:30

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Racoonworld · 03/04/2021 11:32

You need both doses for vaccine passports. You also won’t be protected for long with just one dose, two is needed for longer term protection.

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PandaFluff · 03/04/2021 11:34

Do what you want. Someone else can have your dose if you don't want it.

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EdgeOfACoin · 03/04/2021 11:35

Aren't you more likely to get a blood clot from the oral contraceptive pill?

Nobody gives a damn about that.

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PandaFluff · 03/04/2021 11:35

You won't able to say you are vaccinated if you need to though.

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LibrariesGiveUsPower45321 · 03/04/2021 11:37

There’s about a 10 in 1 million incidents of blood clot after AstraZeneca.

Women between 14 and 44 on the pill have a 400-2000 in 1 million risk of blood clot.

Let’s put that into perspective.

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Figgygal · 03/04/2021 11:38

Oh ffs just get on with it and be grateful

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PandaFluff · 03/04/2021 11:40

YABU

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Fatladyslim · 03/04/2021 11:40

My eyes couldn't have rolled back any further reading your op.

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