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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To feel hurt and confused by friend?

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YoniGetAnOohWithTyphoo · 30/03/2021 13:21

I have been friends with this lady, we’ll call her Alexis, since we were 16. We were friends at college along with 2 other girls who i’ll call Paige and Chloe. For over 15 years we’ve maintained our relationships, through degrees, moves, marriages and babies.

I always liked Alexis - she was grounded, intelligent, fun and honest. She is also stunningly beautiful.

Alexis moved away from where we all live about 10 years ago, but we did our best to stay in touch, including a good few long drives on my part. However, in more recent years, I have been increasingly turned off by her acting like a diva. It started when she got engaged, so I just chalked it up to the usual temporary ‘bridezilla’ behaviour and turned a blind eye - plus, she has a new circle of friends who are also very fashionable and glamour-focused (but kinda shallow) so I thought perhaps she was a little influenced by that. It wasn’t something that hugely bothered me at first.

Until she invited us all to a hen do together. It was a ridiculously extravagant affair in an expensive part of Europe, and unfortunately, Paige and Chloe had recently had their first children and didn’t feel able to come from a childcare or cost perspective. I really couldn’t afford it, but Alexis was so furious that the other two had turned her down (it’s MY HEN, ffs!) that I didn’t really dare refuse.

Cut a long story short, I paid over £500 to be treated like sh*t on a shoe by her friends for a weekend (ignored me when i spoke to them, left me out of activities, they even cropped me out of photos - I had piled on weight due to a medical issue and I guess I wasn’t aesthetic enough). She witnessed this behaviour, but said nothing to her friends. Even when they eventually made me cry. But i never brought it up, because as the head bridesmaid kept saying, ‘it was her hen and I mustn’t do anything to ruin it.’

Fast forward 2 years on and communication has been a little sporadic since the wedding - she’s not on Facebook, I moved even further away, I was having a really difficult time in my personal, professional and general life and then the pandemic hit - you know, life happened. During this time, Chloe got pregnant with DC2, and announced it on Facebook. Alexis messaged me and was fuming about this - why hadn’t Chloe told her directly? Why should she have to find out via social media? She said she felt that Chloe had dropped her because she wasn’t a mother, and only wanted mummy friends, etc. I sympathised, but said I was trying not to take it personally, as our lives were going in different directions, and we maybe didn’t have as much in common as we did, but it is what it is and perhaps Chloe just had other priorities atm.

Fast forward a year. I met up with Paige recently (for the first time in 2 years also) and she said ‘ah, it’s so nice Alexis has had her baby’. Well. I was completely blindsided. I had no idea she was even pregnant.

I contacted her about it with something really quite generic, not at all having a go - just asking if congratulations were due? Well, boy do I regret it. She was angry - angry that I asked, angry that someone told me - the whole lot. She told me her decision to keep her pregnancy and birth private was her own and partly due to anxiety that something would go wrong with the pregnancy -ok, an unusual response past the first trimester maybe, but fair enough, I can understand anxiety making you do odd things.

I responded with a message along the lines of I was surprised, especially because I remembered how hurt she was by the way Chloe handled things, but she obviously she had her reasons, and i was genuinely happy for her.

She left me on read for 2 days before responding with a massive essay about how I don’t get to have an opinion on anything, my feelings don’t matter, how i’m a shit friend because I didn’t wish her happy birthday last year, I don’t make any effort in the friendship (!), she’s the one who’s had the baby and ‘i’m making it all about me’. I was absolutely shocked to the point of tears. I only wanted to share in the happy news and felt a little hurt and confused she’d told Chloe and Paige but not me and was hoping this wasn’t a sign she was mad at me, I wasn’t trying to make her feel bad at all.

I sent her a bunch of messages explaining and apologising profusely for not making as much time for her as I should - like I say, i’ve been dealing with some pretty dark stuff in my life and tbh, I haven’t had much time or opportunity to socialise with ANYONE. She has ignored them. Now I’m wondering if her accusations are even fair or whether she’s just trying to make me the bad guy for calling her out a little - especially because she’s certainly voiced very strong opinions on each of our friends’ pregnancies and choices!

AIBU for thinking it’s quite normal for friends to tell each other big news - and very human to feel a little hurt/disappointed if they don’t, even if it’s for a good reason? AIBU to think she’s being a bit hypocritical and unfair? I feel like at least I was open directly to her about it, rather than just slagging her off behind her back like she did to Chloe. BUT: I don’t have children and have fertility issues that probably mean i never will, so perhaps I just do not and could not understand.

The thing that hurts the most is she said she believed my congratulations to be fake. All I want is for her to be happy, even if she decides - as it now seems she has - that she no longer wants anything to do with me.

What should I do? Should I even do anything? I feel heartbroken to lose such a long friendship this way.

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GrandDuchessRomanov · 30/03/2021 16:01

Friendship is not supposed to be this much hard work. As PP have said you should have cut her loose after the hen. I had a similar thing on a camping trip many years ago. Never spoke to any of the witches again.

CityCommuter · 30/03/2021 16:05

@YoniGetAnOohWithTyphoo please explain this part - you said Alexis doesn't have Facebook but she was annoyed when 'she found out on Facebook' that Chloe was pregnant? That really doesn't make sense and if any of the rest of this story is true you really need to move on from this 'friend'. She treats you like shit and the friendship should have ENDED after the hen do...

LatinforTelly · 30/03/2021 16:05

She sounds like an utter cockwomble. Bin her and move on.

RedToothBrush · 30/03/2021 16:11
  1. You were spineless for going to the hen do you couldn't afford and not sticking up for your other two friends.
  2. After being treated like shit at the hen do, you continue to be friends with her.
  3. Then when she starts having a tantrum because your other school friend had a baby you didn't tell her to belt up and stop acting like she's still in the playground.
  4. You, then, contact her about something else and she kicks off because she's trying to hide the fact she's had an actual baby as if you can keep a child secret.
  5. She then sends you a ton of abuse and YOU apologise to her.

The common theme here is she's got no consideration for anyone else and she shits all over anyone who doesn't say 'how high' when she says jump.

OP do you have 'doormat' stamped on your head because you may as well.

This woman isn't your friend. She doesn't respect you or give a shit about you. The friendship you may have had no longer exists.

How much do you need to take before you realise this.

You need some more self respect and self worth. Move the fuck on and stop wasting your life worrying about this woman. She isn't worrying about you...

Don't message her, because someone who is as thick skinned and bitchy as her will always find a way to stick the knife in and hurt you more. Just move on with some dignity.

billy1966 · 30/03/2021 16:12

Kindly OP,

She's not your friend if she ever was.
Ye share some history.

Have some self respect and don't ever contact her again.

She sounds awful.
She's treated you appallingly.

Don't be gutted over someone who has treated you really badly for a long time

Spend time with real friends.
Flowers

LoudestCat14 · 30/03/2021 16:14

She sounds VILE. She showed her true colours at the hen night. Cut her loose and don't look back.

GabsAlot · 30/03/2021 16:14

What did u apologise for-you havent done anything, Shes a self centred bitch who thinks everythin revolves around her and sounds like she uses people till theres no need for them

just move on from her and explain t the others why

NotATomato · 30/03/2021 16:16

Do you feel like you’re not good enough to be her friend? The way you talk about her makes me think you see yourself as lucky to have her friendship.

KarenMarlow3 · 30/03/2021 16:18

Why are you continuing to engage with this person? She only upsets you. Time to move on.

Eddielzzard · 30/03/2021 16:21

She sounds utterly horrible. Narcissistic.

Ghosting isn't my style, but I'd ghost her. And I'd show Paige and Chloe her messages.

Quirrelsotherface · 30/03/2021 16:29

How did she find out about the other friend announcing a pregnancy on Facebook if she isn't on Facebook?

couchparsnip · 30/03/2021 16:29

She's a bitch and doesn't deserve you as a friend. Tell her that and then block her.

puginamug · 30/03/2021 16:30

Dump her.

I have had a very traumatic time over the last few years. This has meant that my friends have really shown me who they are. Some have been amazing, some have not.

What I've realised, is that you don't have to stay friends with people or justify your decisions. Yes apologise but you're not married to her, you don't have to stay in the relationship and work it out.

Some people, and she sounds like she is one of them, only want to be friends with you for the part you play in their life. When you're 'off camera' so to speak, you don't exist. You're there as entourage and support crew. So obviously she'd be furious that she wasn't told things, and obviously she'd be furious you had feelings about her actions or forgot her birthday. Essentially, you forgot your lines.

Cut her loose - it sounds like you have some good friends already.

PatchworkElmer · 30/03/2021 16:31

Block and move on, OP.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 30/03/2021 16:32

@Spied

You should have cut her loose after she allowed you to be treat like shite at her hen do. Move on up from such an utter waste of space. She's no friend.
This.

Don't apologise to her unless it's to say "I'm sorry you've become such a stuck-up twunt."

Block her on social media, don't look at any of her stuff, and if mutual friends mention her, stop them and say "Sorry - she made it clear she doesn't want me to know anything about her life, so I don't intend to intrude."

You have better things to be doing than giving her headspace.

BakedTattie · 30/03/2021 16:34

Tell her to go fuck herself. Then block and move on with your life

YoniGetAnOohWithTyphoo · 30/03/2021 16:37

Sorry all - to clarify, she is not on Facebook, but her husband is.

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PinkiOcelot · 30/03/2021 16:38

I’ve actually voted YABU because you should have told her to fuck right off after her hen do. She sounds absolutely vile OP.
Why on earth have you sent her grovelling messages?!!

TonTonMacoute · 30/03/2021 16:41

I'm sorry you feel hurt OP. You tried but you haven't done anything wrong, she sounds incredibly self centred.

seriously, draw a line and move on.

MsHedgehog · 30/03/2021 16:42

I had a baby very very recently and didn’t tell many people at all I was expecting. That included one person in our friendship group of 4 - ie I told two of the girls but not the third.

The reason for it is that she had done various things over the past year which she’s never really appreciated were hurtful to me, and made no attempt to make it right. In her mind, and as she’s told the others, she apologised and that was it, but it was a half hearted apology and she never reached out to me since. So from my perspective, our dynamic and relationship changed as a result of her actions and no attempt to make it right, so I’m not going to go out of my way to contact her and tell her I’m pregnant.

The first time I heard from her in 6 months was last week, the day before I had the baby. I responded a few days later and told her then that I had had a baby.

She has caused drama since because I told the other two and not yet, but they have made it clear it was my news to share, not theirs whereas I genuinely don’t care what she thinks - her actions towards me were initially very hurtful and she never attempted to make it right. Why should I contact her to give her my news when she’s not asked me at all about my life in 6 months.

So maybe, just maybe, you have said or done things which for her have affected your relationship and she’s not the mega bitch you’re making her out to be?

It is also not uncommon to keep pregnancies quiet after the first trimester. Many people, myself included, are worried about loss after the first trimester so decide not to make it public.

YoniGetAnOohWithTyphoo · 30/03/2021 16:43

@puginamug yes, you’ve hit the nail on the head there, I was trying to say how I feel to my partner and that’s it - she no longer wants friends, she wants an entourage. One she is allowed to criticise, but they must never do the same to her.

I was feeling bad about it because she is right i am not the sort of friend who ‘checks in’ on people much - I sort of assume if people have something to say they’ll tell me. But: I also never leave people on read, never ignore messages, never flake on plans or invitations. If she’d have told me before all this that she felt I wasn’t pulling my weight in the friendship I really would have made an effort to set things right.

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YoniGetAnOohWithTyphoo · 30/03/2021 16:51

@MsHedgehog that was my worry too, hence why I have come on here to question it, but I honestly cannot think of a single reason she would be mad at me other than being a bit rubbish at staying in touch - indeed, she hasn’t told me any other reasons. She says she’d sent me a message on my birthday to say we should meet up soon and I ignored it (we wouldn’t have been able to anyway bc of COVID19), but I’ve gone back and checked all my messages and there’s nothing. So I don’t know if she’s been sending messages to the wrong number or something? But that is literally the only thing I can think of. We’ve never argued before this.

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MsHedgehog · 30/03/2021 16:59

I just re read my post and it sounded like I may have been accusing you of being at fault...didn’t mean to come across that way. I was more making the point that things from her perspective may be very different to yours and that it is possible you have said or done something to hurt her, which you don’t appreciate was hurtful for her.

Also, quite simply, friendships change and dynamics change. It’s a shame when that happens but people change and with it so do existing relationships. Doesn’t mean that either person is at fault, but it does hurt when you haven’t appreciated that to be the case and then suddenly realise your friendship is not what it was, whereas the other person realised some time ago.

Viviennemary · 30/03/2021 16:59

I'd dump the lot of them. Who has got time for those types of folk taking offence at nothing. Never knowing where you are up to or if you've upset them by mistake. It's just too much hassle.

ExtraordinaryQuince · 30/03/2021 16:59

She sounds unwell. PND?

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