This is disrespectful to women who have homeschooled and wfh?

[PrincessNutNuts]

"The general view is people have had quite a few days off, and it wouldn't be a bad thing for people to see their way round to making a passing stab at getting back into the office." Boris Johnson.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.lbc.co.uk/news/boris-johnson-enough-days-off-work-from-home-lockdown-easing/

@WellThisIsShit

Deeply ignorant man. And we voted him in...

Speak for yourself. Also if you have local elections don't vote tory

Sadly Boris is not alone in his thinking. All through lockdowns there were many people spreading the notion that those of us WFH were lazing about with our kids baking cakes and watching films in between some school work. The reality was so far from that I could cry. It was nothing short of horrendous and while I was very grateful to have a job I worked more hours than ever and my kids suffered greatly because of it.

[quote ParadiseIsland]@Touloser, even with context, it still reads very badly to me.

Because the overall context of pushing people back in the office etc.. is still there and VERY overwheleming.
Never mind that a lot of people don't want to go back to the office. Or that companies have already plan a clear cut of office space.[/quote]
Agreed

I think sending people who were advised to Shield back to work this week is an especially big mistake.

The government should have waited until a month after their second jab at least Even if it meant people were going back at different times.

@WellThisIsShit

Deeply ignorant man. And we voted him in...

I certainly didn't vote that absolute fuckwit in!

@Knowingitsallover

Except its clearly aimed at a lot on furlough

Nothing that was said before or after referred to furlough and Furloughed workers can't go back to "the office" until he lets them.

He meant us. All of us. "People".

I bet Boris Johnson isn't doing zoom meetings standing up in the kitchen with the laptop perched on top of the microwave right now. With a washing load that I can't start until it's the meeting is over and next door replacing their fences "bang. bang. bang." and holding a cat who wants a fuss. I bet he hasn't homeschooled any of his children.

He's got no idea.

there is a misapprehension that parents do home schooling, they do not, you sit your child in front of lapdog or tablet and the teacher does the teaching, all parents have to do is make sure the child stays on the laptop

@earnshaw47

there is a misapprehension that parents do home schooling, they do not, you sit your child in front of lapdog or tablet and the teacher does the teaching, all parents have to do is make sure the child stays on the laptop

Hi. Homeschooling parent here. 👋. On a parents message board.

Please. Do tell us more about how homeschooling has worked for the past year.

A bit of a rant. Last year I was furloughed for 6 months. I ended up spending that time homeschooling three very reluctant children. It was awful.
My DH was put on furlough today. Until September. The unfairness of it all! He gets to enjoy Spring/ Summer at home while all kids at school. He has told me today of his plans... get fit, go on bike rides, work in the garden, read some books, get a tan, go to the beach, etc. Etc.
Life is seriously unfair to women!

there is a misapprehension that parents do home schooling, they do not, you sit your child in front of lapdog or tablet and the teacher does the teaching, all parents have to do is make sure the child stays on the laptop

Not in our school.

But yes please, do explain to parents how our experiences of remote learning / homeschooling are imaginary.

@earnshaw47

there is a misapprehension that parents do home schooling, they do not, you sit your child in front of lapdog or tablet and the teacher does the teaching, all parents have to do is make sure the child stays on the laptop

Really? That’s hilarious. This is only the case for lazy parents or parents of teens. My 3 required constant assistance and interaction.

I didn’t vote for him! That is not the general view at all, I work in a school so have being going to work and take my hat off to those that home schooled and worked at the same time.

@earnshaw47

there is a misapprehension that parents do home schooling, they do not, you sit your child in front of lapdog or tablet and the teacher does the teaching, all parents have to do is make sure the child stays on the laptop

I'm still annoyed about this a day later.

It's surely written by someone who hasn't homeschooled any children at all.

To women who have done it off and on for a year.

@PrincessNutNuts I'm with you. A year on we were still getting worksheets. What part of that is the teacher teaching?

@chocolateorangeinhaler

Hmmm in his defense you have to remember he works for the public sector. That's hard enough to get someone to do a days work in if you can physically have them in an office. Add to the mix that public sector haven't got a clue how to react to or manage WFH and you don't know how productive (if at all) any of these people were.

Private sector where profit is king is totally different, I'm sure a very high percentage of people WFH for private companies actually did more than they would usually do than if they were in an office.

I do think people need to get back to an office though, without being in a group ideas and discussion can't happen. It's ok I know we have ms teams or zoom but that's not spontaneous. Often great ideas happen round a water cooler or some other mundane office activity.

Well that's a load of rubbish. Worked in both private and public sector and there is no simple delineation between them in how good they are at dealing with these things. Good and bad examples abound across all sectors.

I couldn't agree with him more.
Rare/unheard of for me to agree with BJ!

In many many of the companies we deal with, about 60, MD's are saying that staff don't want to come back, and when they do their work attitude is shocking, and many say they'd prefer to be back on furlough.

Those in the offices are shocked at this staff attitude. They have been working like a dog, since day 1 of covid, and say they'd have liked to have had a year and a half off (now suggestion is that furlough will continue till sept 21 at least, possibly Jan 22) thanks very much!

WFH is completely being furloughed.which bit I'd BJ referring to?

Being Furloughed for the whole of May June July August 2020 when it was boiling hot and you did all the repairs round the house that you wanted to might of been very pleasant.

Spending time with your kids.

Wfh with young kids whilst Trying to do their school work and at the same time holding down a full-time job, which many women will have done would be an absolute frigging nightmare!

@Touloser

On Saturday, at the Conservatives' virtual spring forum, the prime minister was asked whether the UK can have a bank holiday called "national hangover day" once the pandemic subsides.

But Mr Johnson put down the suggestion, responding: "The general view is people have had quite a few days off, and it wouldn't be a bad thing for people to see their way round to making a passing stab at getting back into the office."

^ reads a bit differently (and somewhat more reasonably) in context though, doesn't it?

So you're reading "people have had quite a few days off" as some kind of personal insult? Rather than what it is, a fact?#

I know plenty of people who were furloughed and are in no hurry to go back to the office. But sure, he was somehow insulting all women who homeschool or wfh

That was to the OP, not you @Touloser. I agree with you - the context is key.

There was no discussion of the furloughed getting a bank holiday.

The context was nothing to do with the minority of the people who are furloughed.

It was a proposed bank holiday for all of us. Everybody. All the people.

So when our Prime Minister says people in that context the only possible assumption is that he means us. All of us.

There's no context whatsoever to suggest he only meant those who are furloughed.

Minority of people furloughed?
How many people have been furloughed?
What do you think the total cost of furlough has been £ wise?

58 billon ?

Billion

My DH WFH full time and homeschooled 2DDs. It’s not just women.
But Boris is being a twat as usual.

@PrincessNutNuts

There was no discussion of the furloughed getting a bank holiday.

The context was nothing to do with the minority of the people who are furloughed.

It was a proposed bank holiday for all of us. Everybody. All the people.

So when our Prime Minister says people in that context the only possible assumption is that he means us. All of us.

There's no context whatsoever to suggest he only meant those who are furloughed.

Well, you're determined to be offended, so crack on.