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Advice needed - incident in Children's Home

63 replies

welshmum3 · 27/03/2021 09:35

This is not an AIBU, I have posted on the SEN legal but reposting here for more traffic and hopefully some sensible advice. This is a difficult post to write. Please bear with me, I will try to keep it concise.
My daughter, 15, ASD diagnosis attends a specialist independent school as a residential student - after a hard won battle with the LA.
We were overjoyed to get her here after two failed placements, (one mainstream and one resource base), and two long periods of non-attendance together with lots of school induced trauma. It was as near to perfect for her as we could have hoped for.
Last December, at the end of her first term there, I received an email from her residential key worker saying that she and one of her male peers (16) had engaged in consensual sexual activity (she touched his penis and he penetrated her vagina with his finger.) Staff initially felt she had fabricated this incident stating in the email that the peer is 1-1 and supervised at all times except when in his room and all students are supervised when together in communal areas. The boy was denying anything happened other than kissing.
It was investigated and I was told on January that investigations were complete and staff practice updated as well as deciding to do 'mediation' between the two students.
She was not on site from December until last week due to Covid. Two days ago, the peer tried to physically attack her. She was removed to another residential house for her own safety. The residences are registered children's homes but we have no social services involvement, her place is funded by education.
Yesterday, both young people involved stated that the incident of sexual activity had happened. My daughter is saying (for whatever reason) that she coerced the boy into it. This apparently is why he is angry with her.
Today, they decided that on Monday, she cannot attend school and will be 'educated' in her room with a TA.
I am told the boy is home with his parents this weekend and they are deciding how they want to proceed - which could involve the police. At this moment we don't know what will happen.
What happened shouldn't have happened. If staff had followed procedure and supervised them, this situation wouldn't have arisen. They were apparently in a communal area, not even in his room. (Bear in mind in December they denied this could have happened because the students were supervised). Clearly they weren't.
I feel school bears some responsibility and accountability here.
Both students are vulnerable, lacking in social skills and knowledge of relationships.
I'm not in any way minimising what's happened or my daughter's part in it. I'm so scared...my mind is just leaping forward to all the 'worst case scenarios'. She'll be asked to leave the school and won't ever get another one, she'll be taken in to care, she'll end up on the sex offenders register and all the ramifications of that for relationships, work opportunities etc in the future.
Realistically, what's likely to happen to her?
And what should I be doing / what questions should I be asking? ( apart from the obvious why did staff fail to provide adequate supervision)

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x2boys · 27/03/2021 17:33

Sounds awful ,how can of happened even once if they both have 1:1 supervision,they are both being let down terribly.

LIZS · 27/03/2021 17:39

Awful. I think especially given she has disclosed more you need to escalate this. They are both vulnerable and the home has failed in its duty of care. How was he left unsupervised at least 3 times? There are huge safeguarding and child protection failures taking place. It also sounds as if both have been coached in their stories to an extent.

Coffeetwosugars · 27/03/2021 18:00

Hi
I'm a care worker in a residential home for young people with Autism and learning difficulties. The home is definitely at fault. If both young people are 1-1 outside of their rooms they should never had opportunity to be left alone together.

theteachesofpeaches · 27/03/2021 18:16

One even told her what she did is not sexual assault but is sexual coersion

Just how are they getting "sexual coersion" from this. Your DDs version certainly does not suggest this. I think your DD is being victim blamed here. I wonder if staff are seeing your DD as more "capable" in some way so are blaming her? Their attitude is appalling either way.

SakuraEdenSwan1 · 27/03/2021 18:20

@Zoinksalot

The fact posters are trying to pin blame on an extremely vulnerable 16 year old boy who's needs are sufficient enough to need constant 1-1 is astounding.

You lot think he is capable of gaslighting and being manipulative to that extent?
Grow up.

They have BOTH been massively failed here but he emotionally feels he has been violated and he is well within his right to feel that way.

This needs to be handled through all appropriate channels and the home has a lot to answer for

Well said, poor boy is as much a victim in this. Typical posters implying he is at fault.
Feelingconfused2020 · 27/03/2021 18:27

Please report to all the relevant people and get advice. Don't let the home get away with investigating themselves. This is just awful.

8dpwoah · 27/03/2021 18:35

Ask the home of they have referred the incident to the LADO and see what reaction you get (I bet they haven't). I'd also be making a safeguarding complaint to Ofsted, they are still inspecting care provisions if there are qualifying complaints, I believe.

cucumberrock · 27/03/2021 18:51

@8dpwoah

Ask the home of they have referred the incident to the LADO and see what reaction you get (I bet they haven't). I'd also be making a safeguarding complaint to Ofsted, they are still inspecting care provisions if there are qualifying complaints, I believe.
One hundred percent report this yourself. Report to the DSL of the home, your daughter is legally under age, has she had a mental capacity assessment to evidence she is able to consent to sexual relations (of course not because if she had the capacity she would not be able to consent because she is a child and it is rape) ? The boy is over the age of consent. The staff are culpable and have neglected to safeguard your daughter and are trying to victim blame her. Once DSL has investigated, report to LADO and DoE (you say she is funded by education). Do not let this lie, it was not your daughters fault. I probably would go straight to LADO to be honest.
8dpwoah · 27/03/2021 19:08

Yes you're quite right @cucumberrock I should have added to say report to LADO yourself too- I only mention to ask the home as they might change their tune if they realise you know what you're talking about rather than blaming the young people as they seem to be at the moment. Won't change the fault or-hopefully- the outcome for them but it might put a stop to the victim blaming tactic which will make it a bit easier for you and your daughter.

Lorieandrews · 27/03/2021 20:00

Your daughter is underage. If anything the boy is over the age of consent

The school I feel are 100% responsible. They’re trying to push blame

You need to take back the control and phone the NSPCC. I’d phone the police too. I’d also be taking my child out of the school for her own safety.

Good luck. What a horrible situation for you and your daughter

canigooutyet · 27/03/2021 20:44

So she told him she didn't like it yet he carried on. Yet she has somehow coerced him?
The home/school are coming across as abysmal with their child protection.
To get away with it once was bad enough, but three times when they both have 1:1 is a serious lack of anything.Where the fuck where all these adults when he was putting his hand up her top?

welshmum3 · 27/03/2021 20:45

Thank you to everyone who has responded to this.
I'll be calling the NSPCC tomorrow and LADO on Monday. I will seek legal advice from a solicitor on Monday also. This has been a very difficult few days.
I will definitely be ensuring that the school takes responsibility for failing to safeguard these two young people.

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Gazelda · 27/03/2021 21:46

God, I can't imagine how distressing this must be for you, and how scared your poor daughter is feeling.

It sounds as though she isn't being supported by the school. She doesn't have anyone with her who she knows is 100% on her side.

Poor love. I bet you can't wait to get her home.

While I understand that she was happy and settled there, I don't think I'd let her return until this had been fully investigated. And make sure that she understands she's not being kept away because of anything she's done, but simply because you want experts to make sure it is the best place for her to return to and to be happy.

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