To assume families with children too young to be vaccinated won’t be able to holiday overseas for years?

[ohcarolina2001]

So various countries are welcoming vaccinated people. By autumn my partner and I should both have had both vaccines, but our 1 year old DD is not eligible for a vaccine and by the time all the trials etc have been done on progressively younger people, we are years away from her being vaccinated. AIBU to assume we can’t take her on her first overseas holiday any time soon, because there is no exemption for unvaccinated children who can of course still spread Covid-19?

The only possibility I can see is going to a country which doesn’t require anyone to be vaccinated - but surely these destinations are a much riskier prospect (with an unvaccinated toddler licking everything and no vaccine 100% effective anyway).

Looking at holiday websites, most package holidays seem to be sold out for autumn already. These can’t all have been bought by couples without kids and older couples with adult children, surely? Have families with kids who won’t be vaccinated booked too and are hoping for positive news that kids will be exempt from the requirement to have their vaccines before entry?

@PantherPantherus

Why are you mocking those so desperate they risk the lives of their kids to get away from persecution ect?

Or just say you need to get to your eye test in Barbados.

It’s all so uncertain so we’re just holidaying in the UK this year. I can’t be bothered with the faff of having to change a holiday should it get cancelled or potentially having to isolate etc. Just going to skip it and think about it for next year

I am assuming there will be no requirement for children under 18 to be vaccinated. I think that many people won't want to vaccinate their children - whilst there are tests being done that doesn't allay any concerns about any side effects that could show up much longer term and given that young people are very unlikely to suffer badly from covid why should they take the risk and get the vaccine. I certainly don't think I would have got the vaccine if I hadn't finished my family and I would not like to see anyone below 35/40 effectively being force to do so (above that age I think we have a civic duty to have the vaccine).

My parents have lived in Spain for 14 years and they currently have a 10pm curfew but the bars etc are open so they have some sort of social
Life. However they are mid and late 70's and nothing has been said about vaccines for them yet. I'm 54, in the UK and had my vaccination today

@stealthbanana

For all of you proclaiming that travel isn’t a necessity - assume you don’t have family abroad who might actually want to see said children at some point? It annoys me that travel is so blithely written off as being indulgent holidays only.

Thank you. You took it out of my mouth. In April it will be 2 years since I have seen my parents, and they are only across the Channel. Our flights with B.A were cancelled last year & we did not want to take the risk to bring Covid to them. They aren't getting any younger, and I pray I can see them soon & still in "good health". Our daughter who is 12 sometimes cries about missing her grandparents.

Foggy - that must be very tough and I hope we can get away this summer. I have to say that I definitely couldn't do it. I am grateful that my parents (French) are young enough (under 70) and in good health and we've managed to see them regularly enough over the course of the year with the regular precautions. I don't think my kids would have coped otherwise, they're already pretty unhappy about not having seen their Indian grandma for the past 2yrs. France has just removed the motif imperieux to travel to the UK and back so they're hoping to come over very soon. Fingers crossed.

Froggy! Not Foggy! Fat fingers

Why would you assume this? Anyone too young to havr been vaccinated would just be exempt? They'd know how old they were from the passport, as usual. same as under 2s don't need a seat etc

I hope I’m wrong, but I think anyone who’s expecting anything like ‘normal’ package holidays this year is utterly deluded.
P.S. I work in aviation.

The Welsh Government aren’t too optimistic about non essential travel this year - see pages 11 and 12.

gov.wales/sites/default/files/publications/2021-03/coronavirus-control-plan-revised-alert-levels-in-wales-march-2021.pdf

OP, YANBU but by the time it is allowed, by the time you factor in the additional costs for testing before departure, before returning to the UK and after returning to the UK as well as self isolation time, you’d have to think hard about is it worth it just yet.

Well according to Grant Schapps today, none of us will be going, so I wouldn't worry too much about DC or anyone else who isn't vaccinated.

I would rather wait until things are more certain before booking a holiday overseas.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56467813

Summer 2022 seems more likely.

Actually Grant Shapps said it was too early to tell (it is) and the 17th May is the very earliest (and we are unlikely to hit that)

Its the Scientists who are saying its extremely unlikely and from their perspective of course it is but that doesnt take into account the economic implications

IF there is a way to make the summer happen governments will want it to I suspect

*Well according to Grant Schapps today, none of us will be going, so I wouldn't worry too much about DC or anyone else who isn't vaccinated.

I would rather wait until things are more certain before booking a holiday overseas.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56467813

Summer 2022 seems more likely*

Noooo, we live in hope & have booked summer holiday abroad for late July

We shall see, need these things to look forward to

@MaxNormal totally agree with you! If you want to go abroad and can do so legally, why wouldn't you? If you personally don't want to for whatever reason then don't! Yes these aren't ordinary times, but going to the giant tesco near me, which has been open non stop throughout this pandemic, is just as risky as going on a plane/airport... probably even more so as you don't have to prove you've had a negative test/had a vaccine to enter it!

@changingnames786 haha thank you for making me laugh!!! My sentiments exactly haha

@lulalondon on an unrelated note it's always a pleasant surprise when someone @s you and they are not tearing you a new one

@MaxNormal haha! I've realised half the people on this thread I'd love to share a bottle of wine with and the other half I'll be happy knowing I won't be sitting next to them on my Ryan Air flight this year (if by some small miracle I manage to get on one) xxx

We should agree a secret sign or something - if I see you making one you can come and share my bottle with me as we fly to the sunshine

@MaxNormal omg yes!! I spent the whole of lockdown last year sober and pregnant, if I can go somewhere warm and sunny for a week this year I'll be buying everyone on my plane a bottle of wine! I can almost feel the hot hair hitting me as I walk off the plane and tasting the first sip of wine in the balmy evening as you hear the crickets chirping!!!!!

Congratulations on your new baby

Oh god yes, when there's just suddenly all this bright white light everywhere and you're in this whole different world.

May that be us this summer!!!

I live in Europe and people are popping back and forwards to uk workout vaccines even now. For work for family you name it. Children will have to take a test and quarantine I imagine. If the world opens up they will not stop families going on holiday even with unvaccinated children. I’m sure there will be an age specified that after that birthday they will need to be vaccinated but no I don’t think they will do that.

Honestly, do you really think we'll be going anywhere except our own country this summer ?? I really don't!

@tigerlilly22

Honestly, do you really think we'll be going anywhere except our own country this summer ?? I really don't!

Neither do I. Neither do I care for myself. I feel sorry for those who are desperate to see loved ones who are abroad but this situation will not last forever. I don't feel sorry for people who just want a holiday in a resort in another country, they are just being shallow.

Isn't it ironic that all posters advise OP to put the thought of going abroad out of her head for this year. Yet availability is practically none, and prices have rocketed, because clearly tonnes of people have already booked.

If you read other threads, many have it carried forward from last year. But plenty have recently booked.