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Another escort one

53 replies

Silveretta71 · 18/03/2021 17:34

I've name changed as I feel embarrassed about this, but would this be the way an escort would be contacting my boyfriend, obviously I know he'd have to message her first. There's a message on his phone from a man's WhatsApp no number saved, the first picture is a young girl 20s Romanian either driving licence or id card, then a postcode, then an address. I know I should not have looked but I just want to know as there's other issues, thanks

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ChronicallyCurious · 19/03/2021 00:09

I used to be a dancer so know many girls who have ventured into full service sex work. I’ve never ever heard of them sending a photograph of their ID to anyone. I imagine that they wouldn’t want to give out that information either. Like dancing, all of the girls I know who do/did it use fake names.

This screams something else to me, possibly sex trafficking.

ComtesseDeSpair · 19/03/2021 11:51

This is madness. You’ve found a photo of some ID and now at “best”, suspect your boyfriend of trying to visit a prostitute and at worst, being involved in human trafficking. People in normal, healthy relationships simply don’t think like this. Your relationship is clearly already so terribly poor to the point that this seems normal to you, and your boyfriend has clearly already behaved in a way which makes you think either of these situations could be likely.

You don’t need to investigate further or do any digging or try to get proof. Why would you waste any more of your precious life doing this? Focus on you, not him. Just end it today. Block his number. Move on. Get some therapy. Learn how to love and respect yourself so that you don’t end up with men who treat you poorly again. It doesn’t matter whether he has or hasn’t done anything, you have absolutely no trust for him and think him capable of awful things - even if he did turn out to have some perfectly innocent and logical reason for having the information, you’re still in a shit relationship.

ErickBroch · 19/03/2021 12:21

Sorry I think you should undoubtedly contact the police. This woman is likely being forced into prostitution and they are keeping her ID so she cannot leave. This happens all over the country and is common for Eastern European women who are tricked into coming here.

You not reporting this could be the difference between someone staying in forced prostitution or being able to leave.

PantherPantherus · 19/03/2021 12:34

This woman will be in the house with a couple of others and the What's App will be the pimp. The ID card will be of a woman who looks reasonable without make-up and proof of age. Your boyfriend turns up and may see a young woman all made up but it won't be the one on the ID card. Bait and switch. The women are being trafficked. All you need to do is pass it over to the police. That's all you need to do.

PantherPantherus · 19/03/2021 12:40

www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/feb/06/sex-traffick-romania-britain

Walks like a duck, quacks..etc.

MiaowMiaow99 · 19/03/2021 12:57

You've got the keys to unlock at least one woman from sex trafficking.

Do the right thing.

Naunet · 19/03/2021 13:42

not an "escort". A prostitute

At least call a spade a spade

If you want to call a spade a spade, it’s far more likely she’s a trafficking victim in these circumstances. Women who are trafficked and raped by men, are not prostitutes.

OP, I’d have to find out more, if this woman possibly is being trafficked, you could potentially save her and others.

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 19/03/2021 13:47

What is your reason for not calling the police?

Silveretta71 · 19/03/2021 13:47

I am listening believe me but I didn't take a picture of the messages so I need to try and have another look somehow

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ErickBroch · 19/03/2021 13:55

If you call the police they can take his phone, you don't need photos.

BrilliantBetty · 19/03/2021 14:20

Was there anything else said in the message? Just the picture.

What else has raised your suspicions that he could be seeing prostitutes? Or involved somehow in sex trafficking

DinosaurPantz · 19/03/2021 14:50

Call a spade a spade? Eh?

Escort is not another name for prostitute, so there’s no calling a spade a spade. Escorts can do anything from being company during a business event like a Gala to going abroad with someone. It’s in the name. They escort someone.

Prostitutes are more commonly those that have sexual relations, so regardless of what she does, let’s not pretend we know what we’re talking about on this thread. They are not the same.

I’d make a note of it to the police. She might not be trafficked, but she also very well might be.

Silveretta71 · 19/03/2021 14:54

BrilliantBetty literally nothing only the fact that I went through this before and we haven't been getting on very well lately, I know that it's not right that I instantly think escorts but unfortunately that's how my mind thinks

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Silveretta71 · 19/03/2021 14:55

BrilliantBetty It was other posters on here that suggested sex trafficking, I didn't know anything about that before I started this thread

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steelserenade · 19/03/2021 14:57

@ErickBroch

If you call the police they can take his phone, you don't need photos.
Take his phone? On what grounds? That somebody sent him a photo of an ID card?
Swordfish1 · 19/03/2021 15:32

Try and get a screenshot OP. Or at least note the address.
It does sounds like it could be sex trafficking.
You could save that woman.
Just tell the police what you found and you are concerned she may be a trafficked woman. If it turns out to be something innocent, then no harm done. There could even be a few women at that address, so potentially helping more of them.

You're leaving him anyway you said, so not even a problem if he finds out you reported it.

Also try and get the number of the person who sent the message, or details of anything that could identify him. Just in case.

Silveretta71 · 19/03/2021 15:36

steelserenade exactly I'm not going to do that at this point

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apalledandshocked · 19/03/2021 15:47

@GoddessKali

I would t automatically suspect a sex worker liaison from what you’ve said, the punter never gets to know the workers real name or ID.

Remember it’s always about protecting the worker not the punter.

Regardless of what is going on in the OPs case, this "Remember it’s always about protecting the worker not the punter" is soooooo incorrect. It goes Pimp>punter>worker
ErickBroch · 19/03/2021 16:12

@steelserenade reporting involvement in human trafficking. I reported my ex for harassment and his phone and all technical devices were confiscated for months.

ChutneyNose · 19/03/2021 16:16

@MrJollyLivesNextDoor
What would she say? Arrest my boyfriend because he has a photo of someone else's driving license?
Also why don't you just ask him instead of inventing these fanciful stories?

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 19/03/2021 16:29

[quote ChutneyNose]@MrJollyLivesNextDoor
What would she say? Arrest my boyfriend because he has a photo of someone else's driving license?
Also why don't you just ask him instead of inventing these fanciful stories?[/quote]
She could simply report what she had seen.

A WA thread where someone had forwarded a Romanian person's ID and an address to her partner and she is concerned it may be something to do with sex trafficking.

It's up to the police what they do and how they decide to follow that up.

ChutneyNose · 19/03/2021 16:31

How would that conversation go?
'Hello 999?' 'Yew I just found a picture of a driving license on my boyfriend's phone and can only assume he is involved in sex trafficking'.
😂😂😂

steelserenade · 19/03/2021 16:34

[quote ErickBroch]@steelserenade reporting involvement in human trafficking. I reported my ex for harassment and his phone and all technical devices were confiscated for months.[/quote]
Seriously? Have you not heard of PACE?

HollowTalk · 19/03/2021 16:35

What made you look in the first place?

I would have thought it was a car accident, too - why did you make the leap to prostitution?

Silveretta71 · 19/03/2021 17:03

I looked because something was wrong and I suspected he might be seeing someone else, I saw those messages and it seemed dodgy. I instantly thought of an escort

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