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To be angry at the frenzy caused by others last night

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BarometerTV · 14/03/2021 12:56

I think it was utterly disrespectful. We are in lockdown and it was not the right time for a protest. I agree with a quiet, respectful, socially distanced space to grieve - which is what appeared to happen during the day.

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CyberdyneSystems · 14/03/2021 22:26

The police can't win

They let it go ahead and they get moaned at for allowing a large gathering during lockdown. If they don't let it go ahead they get moaned at by ppl saying it's just a vigil

How many of you realise that a large part of ppl there had gone there not to take part in a vigil but to purely cause trouble and fight with the police?

Onlinedilema · 14/03/2021 22:26

I wasn’t there but I back the protest 100%.
I’m sick of all this covid bullshit. People braying about there being a pandemic on. Do you police and report ever single person you see breaking lockdown rules? Really?
I don’t believe you and if you do you are a nosey busybody.
Ive seen my children today it’s Mother’s Day. You can go fuck your self if you don’t like it.

Sparechange · 14/03/2021 22:27

@Flaxmeadow

showing what actually happened

What did happen according to you exactly? Was anyone injured?

All I saw was the police trying to control a protest and someone getting arrested. No big deal. I've seen worse on a regular basis at my local pub

You probably ought to find a new pub to drink in if something that has caused national outrage and condemnation by a spectrum of political leaders is business as usual

Probably ought to get some therapy also if you’re that desensitised to it

Newpuppymummy · 14/03/2021 22:28

@GappyValley

Yes they issued a statement after the court appeal

Flaxmeadow · 14/03/2021 22:28

Christ where do you live??

With the working class in the north of England. Where people, even hardened criminals, do not scream "ACAB" at police officers. Strange how it's only the entitled middle class at protests who seem to do that

Sparechange · 14/03/2021 22:29

How many of you realise that a large part of ppl there had gone there not to take part in a vigil but to purely cause trouble and fight with the police?

A ‘large’ part? You sure about that?

LexMitior · 14/03/2021 22:29

@CyberdyneSystems

The police can't win

They let it go ahead and they get moaned at for allowing a large gathering during lockdown. If they don't let it go ahead they get moaned at by ppl saying it's just a vigil

How many of you realise that a large part of ppl there had gone there not to take part in a vigil but to purely cause trouble and fight with the police?

And yet today, protest occurred in the middle of Westminster and elsewhere, and the police stood back.

No problems, strangely.

Onlinedilema · 14/03/2021 22:31

Oh and my dd has had covid, it didn’t kill her. All 3 women today myself and dds have been assaulted as children . My son, dh and son in law have not. So 100% of female children attacked. 100% of male children never experienced it. All the females in my family are far, far more likely to suffer from male violence than covid. In fact so too are the males. I want the problems females face to be in the forefront of everyone’s mind. If you fear suffering from covid then stay indoors like women are repeatedly told.

Flaxmeadow · 14/03/2021 22:32

Probably ought to get some therapy also if you’re that desensitised to it

Nice gaslighting sister

BTW I have a friend who as a young female police officer nearly died from an assault at a protest. Even local villains were sickened by that attack

Why do the middle class always think working class people dislike the police. Think they would scream ACAB in their faces just for wanting to wave some banner around

LexMitior · 14/03/2021 22:33

@Flaxmeadow

Christ where do you live??

With the working class in the north of England. Where people, even hardened criminals, do not scream "ACAB" at police officers. Strange how it's only the entitled middle class at protests who seem to do that

So it’s worse where you are? More violent apparently but the crims are more respectful.

I don’t think you thought your point through

Roussette · 14/03/2021 22:34

How many of you realise that a large part of ppl there had gone there not to take part in a vigil but to purely cause trouble and fight with the police?

Not according to posters on this thread who were actually there, and not from the well published photo of everyone stood with their torches on their phones. It looked very peaceful at that point to me.

LexMitior · 14/03/2021 22:36

Still it’s good to know that you can be working class and criminal but still have morals unlike feminists. Was that the point?

thecranberries · 14/03/2021 22:37

@CyberdyneSystems

The police can't win

They let it go ahead and they get moaned at for allowing a large gathering during lockdown. If they don't let it go ahead they get moaned at by ppl saying it's just a vigil

How many of you realise that a large part of ppl there had gone there not to take part in a vigil but to purely cause trouble and fight with the police?

Absolutely off the mark. The police allowed male sports fans to congregate in large crowds the previous weekend and they escorted them. See media coverage. And this was during Covid regulations in place.

The police are misogynistic - proven by their woeful track record of not taking violence against women seriously for far too long. Again, see actual evidence.

And once again you seem to be spouting stupidities when you say 'how many of your realise that a large part of the ppl there had gone there not to take part in a vigil but to purely cause trouble and fight with the police?' based on No Actual Evidence!

I was there. Everyone was there in support of a vigil. Some women did began to speak about violence against women. And we cheered the sentiments. Because violence against women is wrong. And it has been enabled for far too long by far too many people in society.

Women were there for a vigil and to speak about the abuse they have encountered.

The police were the ones who rammed, assaulted, threatened and intimidated the women.

The thousands of media posts verify this.

Where's your evidence? Post if you dare. Because I guarantee you have just made this up.

Sparechange · 14/03/2021 22:37

@Flaxmeadow

Probably ought to get some therapy also if you’re that desensitised to it

Nice gaslighting sister

BTW I have a friend who as a young female police officer nearly died from an assault at a protest. Even local villains were sickened by that attack

Why do the middle class always think working class people dislike the police. Think they would scream ACAB in their faces just for wanting to wave some banner around

Where have you got it from that everyone there was middle class?
SunscreenCentral · 14/03/2021 22:37

The Government is right now bringing in new UK laws to prevent protests, (and/or vigils) and frankly people should be really worried about that.
Your rights are being quietly stripped from you.

Roussette · 14/03/2021 22:38

And yet today, protest occurred in the middle of Westminster and elsewhere, and the police stood back

No problems, strangely

Exactly this. Far more people, very peaceful
Footage here

BonnieDundee · 14/03/2021 22:38

I live in a northern city and used to see people, including young women, arrested like this all the time when the pubs and clubs emptied. It's no big deal.

You think it's no big deal for male police officers to pin a woman down like that who was taking part in a peaceful vigil? That is utterly disgusting.

Interestingly they didnt do it to the Duchess of Cambridge Hmm

Lauren15 · 14/03/2021 22:38

@CyberdyneSystems

The police can't win

They let it go ahead and they get moaned at for allowing a large gathering during lockdown. If they don't let it go ahead they get moaned at by ppl saying it's just a vigil

How many of you realise that a large part of ppl there had gone there not to take part in a vigil but to purely cause trouble and fight with the police?

You know that for a fact do you? Didn’t look like that in the pictures and videos that I saw.
Flaxmeadow · 14/03/2021 22:39

So it’s worse where you are? More violent apparently but the crims are more respectful.

No I just dont see what the big deal is. Some protesters, in the evening, were asked to disperse by the police. They refused to disperse and then were surprised when the police pushed them or arrested them. What did they expect exactly? Are they that naive

I don’t think you thought your point through

I just havent seen anything in the video footage that I think is "brutality". Was anyone injured?

MercyBooth · 14/03/2021 22:40

I was shocked at that Metro link above... a woman probably my age, mid sixties, literally thumped in the back by the police, she looked like she went sprawling

As Ian Tomlinson did @Roussette

LexMitior · 14/03/2021 22:43

@Flaxmeadow

So it’s worse where you are? More violent apparently but the crims are more respectful.

No I just dont see what the big deal is. Some protesters, in the evening, were asked to disperse by the police. They refused to disperse and then were surprised when the police pushed them or arrested them. What did they expect exactly? Are they that naive

I don’t think you thought your point through

I just havent seen anything in the video footage that I think is "brutality". Was anyone injured?

Do you understand that the lawfulness of what a police officer does is about context? That your example, in drawing an analogy between some who is drunk and disorderly in a pub is not the same as someone attending a protest?

Or there is no difference at all? Do you understand how law works?

Flaxmeadow · 14/03/2021 22:44

You think it's no big deal for male police officers to pin a woman down like that who was taking part in a peaceful vigil? That is utterly disgusting.

Pinned down? All I saw was her lying on the floor, gazing into a camera like Gloria Swanson. She looked handcuffed.

Even if she was pinned down, this is how people, who resist arrest, are arrested all the time

Interestingly they didnt do it to the Duchess of Cambridge hmm

That was in the day, when people were just leaving flowers. The bourgeois jolly hockey sticks bandstand siege came later, at night

Roussette · 14/03/2021 22:44

The Government is right now bringing in new UK laws to prevent protests, (and/or vigils) and frankly people should be really worried about that
Your rights are being quietly stripped from you

^^This

The Government are trying to ram it through quickly and there's a reading of it in the HOC tomorrow. It's an assault on the right to protest giving more powers to PPatel ... start and finish times to protest, restrictions on noise (a bullhorn sounding could land you in jail), far reaching restrictions to stop protesting happening. This is England not Myanmar.

Very worrying.

NeverDropYourMoonCup · 14/03/2021 22:46

@Flaxmeadow

The photo on the front of all the papers shows a 5ft 2in woman flat on the ground with three coppers on top of her. Looks pretty damn brutal to me.

If you've led a very sheltered life maybe

I live in a northern city and used to see people, including young women, arrested like this all the time when the pubs and clubs emptied. It's no big deal.

She was probably, foolishly, resisting arrest. What did she think the police would do, let her go? They are not "on top of her" in the photo, they are probably picking her up off the floor, where she had thrown herself for the benefit of a photo opportunity and she certainly didn't look brutalised in the video interview she gave after she had been fined on the spot. Infact she seemed to be revelling in it

She also called the event a "protest" in the same interview

You need to watch the video before you continue posting like this. They put her on the floor by force, from behind. She didn't resist in the slightest.
Flaxmeadow · 14/03/2021 22:47

That your example, in drawing an analogy between some who is drunk and disorderly in a pub is not the same as someone attending a protest?

Or there is no difference at all? Do you understand how law works?

So youre saying some working class oik in a pub up north doesn't deserve the same protection under the law as a middle class woman in a posh park. Bit classiest that