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To ask women and girls to walk with candles tonight at 6pm - in your local park or wherever you choose

99 replies

loveyouradvice · 13/03/2021 12:11

The vigil for Sarah at 6pm tonight in Clapham Common has been cancelled. All the planned vigils have been cancelled. By the police.

But we are all allowed to walk - in our households or with one friend socially distanced.

Would you tonight consider walking with a candle?

Perhaps encourage others to walk too?

Even tell them where you might be going?

And courage calls to courage everywhere... Janice Turner's tweet summed it up perfectly - pasted below

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tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 13/03/2021 17:54

Thanks Crank although it hasn't been the focus of my life but it's influenced it and I've had a great life.

What I'm sick of is how some men behave a lot of the time. This week has been a tipping point for me.

I found another posters claims many of us are virtue signalling offensive.

Your point regarding women who stay i those relationships is an interesting and worrying discussion and once again the common denominator is ...

Blessex · 13/03/2021 19:44

So I went to Clapham Common. It was very quiet and peaceful. Everybody respecting mask wearing even if we were outdoors. Laid a single rose and left. So sad. We must stand together as women. Different people will have different ways of dealing with this and it’s all ok. Issue is now how do we change violence against women.

lifehack · 13/03/2021 19:49

Lighting my candle at home and my thoughts are with her family.
She was found 10 mins car journey down the road from me, very close to home so sad.

TheLaughingGenome · 13/03/2021 20:00

I will light my candle at home on my bedroom windowsill soon.

For Sarah Everard, for my daughter, for me and my compromised youth, for girls and women everywhere.

Fuck off with your "virtue signalling" accusations and shitty misogyny and propaganda . I was at Greenham. Tonight a member of my family is at Clapham.

I am SO sick of it all.

Nothing changes.

But we don't have to like it.

buildersteagirl · 13/03/2021 20:01

This is outrageous. twitter.com/i/status/1370819072368246786

TheLaughingGenome · 13/03/2021 20:06

Oh my god. Awful scenes. Male Metropolitan Police officers losing their shit with peaceful women protesters.

doubleshotespresso · 13/03/2021 20:13

When you consider we have a female Met Commissioner this is so disturbing never mind tone deaf.
Horrendously over zealous in the circumstances
I hope people all manage to get home without a scrap but this looks so tense.

Roussette · 13/03/2021 20:14

I have a candle lit. It's burning brightly for Sarah.

No, that means nothing, not where I live. But I want to make a difference, and some donations to womens' charities will help.

I do not understand something....

Why oh why... could the Police not have set out some strict guidelines for a candlelit vigil... perhaps suggesting a spaced walk over a couple of miles, with police marching by the side of them. Call them in off of holidays/weekends... make a difference.

That would have made a helluva difference to how people were feeling.

But maybe I'm naive

Blessex · 13/03/2021 20:17

Yep they are tone deaf. When I was there it was mainly female police officers and very friendly. As I left I could see van loads of police coming in - mainly male. These women are doing no harm. For gods sake they should just leave them be. Don’t they see that what they are doing is fifty million times worse than the threat of Covid.

Donotfeedthebears · 13/03/2021 20:19

Met Police have really failed to read the room...

doubleshotespresso · 13/03/2021 20:21

@Blessex

Yep they are tone deaf. When I was there it was mainly female police officers and very friendly. As I left I could see van loads of police coming in - mainly male. These women are doing no harm. For gods sake they should just leave them be. Don’t they see that what they are doing is fifty million times worse than the threat of Covid.
I'd considered still going but really felt for a few different reasons it wasn't the most productive idea. I've used some alternative methods today to hopefully contribute to some positive differences being made. However I've a lot of friends still there and am not hearing good things... This is not an area of London police should be getting so spectacularly wrong and not a subject they can afford to mishandle some badly abd so publicly. Utterly unacceptable
user14515324156262562 · 13/03/2021 20:25

@Donotfeedthebears

Met Police have really failed to read the room...
They are just showing who they really are.

Scum.

Roussette · 13/03/2021 20:39

A picture says a thousand words

To ask women and girls to walk with candles tonight at 6pm - in your local park or wherever you choose
Blessex · 13/03/2021 20:46

It’s utterly ridiculous. They should let women peacefully protest and let off their grief and anger. For me it was a healing process going there and laying a flower and having a cry (I understand for others this seems virtue signalling and trite - but it helped me today process what has happened. I needed to show my respect. Each to their own). So can’t the male police officers see how awful this looks. And we need to get things in balance. This is so much worse that the thread of covid. Everyone there was wearing a mask. Even if we don’t ‘have to’ outdoors. People were. It was respectful. A woman has been murdered. Brutally. Just let women vent their anger. Please.

doubleshotespresso · 13/03/2021 21:18

If anybody has any friends there now you might want to check they get home safely as 4G in the area has "failed".

Donotfeedthebears · 13/03/2021 21:21

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/12/is-the-sarah-everard-vigil-ban-part-of-creeping-curbs-on-the-right-to-protest

“Does the government want to curtail the right to protests?

Human rights campaigners say yes. They are concerned that ministers are using the pandemic as a pretext to severely weaken the right to protest. They are particularly alarmed by this week’s police, crime, sentencing and courts bill, which would give the home secretary power to create laws to define “serious disruption” that police could then use to impose conditions on protests.”

We should all be very worried.

OhWhyNot · 13/03/2021 21:23

Roussette that photo has made me very emotional

Roussette · 13/03/2021 21:27

I know OhWhyNot

I follow the woman on Twitter who took the photo.

I wish it could've stayed as peaceful as that pic is showing

Roussette · 13/03/2021 21:29

donotfeedthebears

We are at a dangerous place with this. That's Priti Patel for you...

corlan · 13/03/2021 21:39

The Met have got this so wrong. This will cause damage to relationships with the public for years to come. It's beyond comprehension that they could handle this so badly.

Felifox · 13/03/2021 21:40

I have a candle in my window. I was brought up in the area and my walk to my dsis opposite our old school would be 2 mins from where Sarah started but passing by Poynders Rd continuing down Cavendish.

This is an assault in the area that you may not be aware of but it shocked my dsis. In February 2017 an 81 yr old woman got off the bus in Balham High Rd. She was attacked and raped twice by 41 year old Anthony Roberts. He is serving 3 life sentences for rape and kidnapping. None of us are safe.

Roussette · 13/03/2021 21:44

corlan I put a candle on my porch at 6pm tonight.

It finally faded just a few minutes ago. I could not have blown it out.

It's all hit home with me. Where Sarah went, my DD, same age, goes running .

LemonRoses · 13/03/2021 21:56

Sadly candles won’t change the situation. Sadly, women will still very occasionally be murdered by strangers - as will men.
Society probably needs a mindset change away from hedonistic high risk, ‘do what I want’ norms to one’s that expects people to take shared responsibility for the safety of our communities.

It’s rather sickening to read Johnson’s message today given that police were called to his house because of a women screaming as the culmination of his misogyny.

We need to not turn a blind eye but to intervene and ask people if they’re OK.
We need to stop our children accessing violent games and porn.
We need to limit opening hours again and set high tariffs for drunken behaviour in public. We need to close down pubs that serve alcohol to the incoherent and make licences premises pay for additional security, cleaning and safety measures in areas where people gather to drink to excess on nights out.

Sstrongtn · 14/03/2021 00:40

I’m not sure that video clip shows the whole picture, if you creep through the threads it actually shows the whole thing being disrupted by “rent a mob” protestor types and begins the disintegrate.

It was violent men fighting violent men (the police). Fucked up. Just fucked completely up.

twitter.com/politicsforali/status/1370833625340641280?s=21

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