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Fatladyslim · 11/03/2021 14:48

I feel sorry for the kids, Archie and the new baby, imagine having your family dragging itself so publiclaly over the coals. They will be teased in school for this, they will grow up thinking they are hated by half of their family. They will hear continuous opinions that people have on their mother and their father, their grandmother, grandfathers (on both sides) aunts and uncless. Most of Megan's family seem to be supporting the Palace, that is going to also be so confusing for the children.

I really hope they grow up with strong resilience as they are going to need it! I know how upset I am when someone is rude about any member of my family, Archie and his sister are going to have to hear it constantly and about all of them!

The only not cringey one of the lot (as in whole Royal Family) is Megan's mum, she must be wondering what the fuck is going on!

Elsiebear90 · 11/03/2021 14:48

I think the problem with the way they’ve gone about it is they’re being deliberately vague meaning it casts aspersions on the whole family, which is unfair imo. If it did happen they should describe exactly what was said and who said it as it’s a very serious allegation. I just can’t with the whole “someone said something to me which was terrible, but I’m not going to tell you exactly what they said or who it was”. If someone was racist then why protect them? They’re ruining the reputation of the entire family to protect a racist? Tell people who it was and what was said or don’t tell anyone at all.

TwilightSkies · 11/03/2021 14:49

I think this specific incident speaks more about what a shitshow the British media is rather than the Royal family.

Both are a shitshow.

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Overcastcloudy · 11/03/2021 14:50

I think, maybe, that some people on here have been following this in its minute detail. Most people around the globe aren't doing that.

The institutions of the British monarchy and the British press have been told, I was subject to racism by these institutions.

So the British Press, via the Society of Editors, responded: British Press Not Bigoted. And now the head of that society has resigned.

So here comes Prince William, with essentially the same answer.

Yes, you can defend yourself against charges of racism. But given some of the stuff members of this family have said in the past (including Harry), you're on thin ice with 'Not racist, nope'.

What most of the world will see is a picture of William and the headline 'Very much not racist'. It's a poor response. They need to clean it up.

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Shetoshe · 11/03/2021 14:51

What do people/Meghan Markle actually expect? It's the bloody monarchy. Their ancestors built the british empire - which was hardly founded on principles of non-racist, equality for all

As a black woman she really, REALLY should have known what she was getting into. While no one should have to experience racism, I find the levels of naivety around this very hard to comprehend.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 11/03/2021 14:52

Detail?

A 4 second clip on lunchtime news.

Thewordgame · 11/03/2021 14:52

He hasn’t spoken to his brother yet, even though his sister in law revealed she was suicidal at one point???? And experienced clear racism whilst living in the UK. He is a hypocrite if he supports mental health charities when he cannot even be arsed supporting his own brother.

Clarinsmum · 11/03/2021 14:52

That’s great homebird46, I’m sure you do. I was ambivalent about the monarchy before all this but I agree with you, for me this has exposed how irrelevant, pointless, out of touch the current royal family is and I would actually now support a republic.

Mamamia456 · 11/03/2021 14:53

OP - Why do you think Prince William should have had a prepared answer to this question. He was visiting a school, he didn't know that a reporter was going to shout that question at him. I thought he handled it very well and shut the conversation down. They must get so fed up of ridiculous questions being thrown at them.

littlepattilou · 11/03/2021 14:53

I believed Meghan, when she said that someone in (or close to) the Royal Family said something about how dark the child's skin would be, and that there are a few racists in the Royal family. I am NOT however, prepared to believe they are ALL racist.

You'd have to be pretty thick and narrow-minded to assume EVERY SINGLE ONE of the Royal family is racist.

It's like the assumption (from some,) that all WHITE people are racist,

I don't deny for a second that some people of colour (including Meghan) have experienced racism from white people, but to suggest that every white person is RACIST is ludicrous, and ridiculous to the extreme. And only the most obtuse and small-minded people would think it/say it.

@Overcastcloudy YABVU.

You should have added a poll to this, but you probably didn't, because you were scared more people would disagree with you (than agree...)

Thewordgame · 11/03/2021 14:54

Shetoshe

Yes its her fault she explained racism.....

Ffs please read your own post and realise what you are saying, it’s ludicrous

Thewordgame · 11/03/2021 14:54

*experienced

DynamoKev · 11/03/2021 14:55

A few posters have said the Royals will "lose the Commonwealth"
What exactly do you mean by this?

AIMummy · 11/03/2021 14:55

My experience of racism in Britain since my nursery days are that in Britain, people are more offended being called a racist than they are about the actual racism.

Sprining · 11/03/2021 14:56

[quote FuckyouBrennan]@TwilightSkies I think she loves the attention and she’s a textbook narcissist. I personally don’t believe she has experienced racism no and I say that as a mixed race woman.[/quote]
Why does it matter if you are mixed race? Are mixed race women a homogenous group and your experience the only one valid and representative for all?

I wonder who is coming across as narcissistic here

Sprining · 11/03/2021 14:57

@Thewordgame

He hasn’t spoken to his brother yet, even though his sister in law revealed she was suicidal at one point???? And experienced clear racism whilst living in the UK. He is a hypocrite if he supports mental health charities when he cannot even be arsed supporting his own brother.

This

WeAllHaveWings · 11/03/2021 14:57

My family is not racist. My brother is and we have strong words with him regularly, but that doesn't mean my "family" which consists of many people are. You can't label a family racist from the recollection of one passing remark from one individual. Do you think it would be fair for me to endure my whole family being called racist because of my brothers attitude?

Like many, I don't have much time for any of the royal family, but hate this nit picking and making stuff up after a couple of words spoken in passing to just keep shit stirring. He wasn't sent out to declare anything, it was a quick passing reply as he was walking away, not a "statement".

WhereYouLeftIt · 11/03/2021 14:57

@Overcastcloudy

What was he supposed to say?

Now, again, I'm no expert on the RF, and I'm not in PR, but you have to think that at some point, someone advised the RF on this? The question is unsurprising, given all the coverage (which even I couldn't avoid! I'm still wondering how I know any of this).

So, off the top of my head: "Is your family racist?"

"I would certainly not have thought so! I would be really disappointed - and shocked - if that were true. It does not represent the values of the RF, or of modern Britain." Then walk away.

'No' is a complete sentence. I'm sure I've come across that sentiment somewhere ...

Oh, and as for "send a white man out to say" - send? Really? SEND?

Babygotblueyes · 11/03/2021 14:57

Whoever expressed concerns that the baby would be too dark probably doesnt think they are racist. Just saying.

LocalHobo · 11/03/2021 14:58

Great post from ittakes2

Do you think she hasn’t experienced racism from the royal family? Why would she lie? I believe she experienced perceived racism from the royals.

Almondmilkgranola · 11/03/2021 14:58

Good on William for answering the question directly and truthfully. Clear signal to Harry that his brother is absolutely prepared to call him out on his malicious bullshit when his grandmother and possibly father can't quite bring themselves to.

Seeing as Harry made it clear in the interview that what he really cares about is money and the perks of being in the RF, his big problem is that it's William who will likely be King through the majority of the rest of his lifetime.

The reason Archie doesn't have a title has nothing to do with race and if I were Charles and William I'd insist to the Queen on making it clear that the slimming down of the monarchy will include Harry's two children (and therefore Charlotte and Louis' children in the future too) never becoming Prince or Princess. Before Harry & Meghan's baby girl is born.

As if William was going to remain silent, he lost Diana too so Harry can't pull that guilt trip with him either.

Frogartist · 11/03/2021 14:58

@Thewordgame

He hasn’t spoken to his brother yet, even though his sister in law revealed she was suicidal at one point???? And experienced clear racism whilst living in the UK. He is a hypocrite if he supports mental health charities when he cannot even be arsed supporting his own brother.

We don't know the reason he hasn't spoken to them yet.

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Overcastcloudy · 11/03/2021 14:59

You should have added a poll to this, but you probably didn't, because you were scared more people would disagree with you (than agree...)

I'm not sure if you're aware of this... but Overcastcloudy is not my real name. Why in the world why I be scare of people disagreeing with my anonymous avatar??

I didn't enable voting because it was a bit of an esoteric question. I was more interested in the dreadful PR strategy than anything else.

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Overcastcloudy · 11/03/2021 15:00

We don't know the reason he hasn't spoken to them yet.

No? No ideas?

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Chooseausernamenow · 11/03/2021 15:01

@Overcastcloudy

... it's counterproductive to send a white man out to say, We're very much not racist?

That just is never going to end well. Ask Ian Murray how it worked out for him.

I couldn't care much either way about the Royal Family. Just baffled at the headline of William saying this.

I think he was put on the spot and gave a stupid answer. They are racist or certainly some members are, ie Princess Michael.

Not sure what else he was supposed to say though. It may have been worse to ignore them.

The unfortunate thing of what these two muppets have done is that it takes the focus off Andrew.