To be bored of International Women’s Day?

[Athenaena]

I suspect the answer will be a resounding yes.

I totally appreciate women have overcome suppression etc and I’m absolutely proud and immensely grateful for the sacrifices my fellow women have made in the past to allow myself and others to be where we are today, but I just feel bored by all the constant ‘Who run the world, girls’ ‘Shoutout to all my fellow queens’ etc posts that I’ve been bombarded with on various social media platforms this morning.

Why do we need a ‘special day’? It just feels a bit patronising and unnecessary, added to that, some of the women sharing this stuff are some of the cattiest, misogynistic women I know. They’re okay to empower other women today when it’s popular.

All in all I just find it totally unnecessary. Yay, we’re women aren’t we great, woohoo

Eastern Europe?

@Toddlerteaplease

Yes. I'm not a feminist. And couldn't care less about 'women's issues'

Are you taking the p?

YABU

YABU but I do agree we need to take more action rather than just post memes on FB or whatever.

I do not agree; sisterhood should be women standing together and looking after one another.

Yes but it’s also used by women to shut other women up and I do not agree with that at all. You shouldn’t have to agree with a woman who is being a dick just because she’s a woman.

Women should have a voice, and part of that is the right to not have “what about the sisterhood?” rammed down their throat. 🤢

I am getting incredibly frustrated by the stupidity of some of the self-proclaimed "feminists" (which they are not)

derailing real issues with completely idiotic and pointless "campaigns".

And their refusal to accept women's right to do as they please even if it doesn't match their own petty little agenda.

sisterhood should be women standing together and looking after one another.

there's no such thing as a sisterhood, it's so cringey. We are not suddenly all from the same bag because we happen to have a vagina.

Not RTFT

I haven't seen anything like that on social media. It does sound like bollocks. Maybe you need better friends?

Of course we need IWD you seriously think there's nothing more to do to improve things for women and girls around the world?

Your view seems to maybe be as shortsighted as your friends which might explain something.

Even in the UK- rape prosecutions etc at an all time low. More women being murdered during lockdown while DV support and rape services have been having funding cut.

They were going to let John warboys out until public outrage.

Etc etc etc

You think the situation for women and girls here and around the world is sorted. Good for you. Don't bother with iwd or anything then.

@funinthesun19

You do have that right. And in the absence of listening to that, what would you rather be hearing?

@goodbyelenin

sisterhood should be women standing together and looking after one another.

there's no such thing as a sisterhood, it's so cringey. We are not suddenly all from the same bag because we happen to have a vagina.

Of course I have nothing in common with anyone just because of sex - but when you read stories like the one last week where a father decapitated his daughter (he didn't like her boyfriend) and had no remorse - of course I have nothing in common with a 17 year old woman in India but I can feel outrage and disgust that there are communities where women and girls are treated less than human on the basis of sex. Especially when I read all the gender boo-hoo you get in the west.

@PearsandPartridge that's only because you come from a country where it's replaced mother's day in significance. Let's not forget a lot of the Eastern European countries are pretty far behind when it comes to misogyny as well so perhaps would not have wanted the IWD the rest of the world focuses on.

but I can feel outrage and disgust that there are communities where women and girls are treated less than human on the basis of sex. Especially when I read all the gender boo-hoo you get in the west.

You don't need a vagina for that. That's my point.
I believe in PEOPLE. A decent man and a decent woman will be equally outraged and disgusted. It has nothing to do with sex or gender or the latest fashionable way to self-identify.

But who holds the power in that community? Is it in their interest to challenge and make harsher laws?

You do have that right. And in the absence of listening to that, what would you rather be hearing?

No idea. But there is no denying that it is used as a put down in the same way as #bekind now is. Just stupid phrases that may have meant well at first but have been so misused now that they get very tedious.

Its INTERNATIONAL womens day though. So what if we are sorted?

What about the plight of women overseas who are still living in slavery, wars, trafficked, routinely raped in India, then stoned , Luigers in China, many women treated appallingly?? Could we who have everything not take a minute to appreciate what we have and maybe donate or highight a worthy cause?

its not all about us There are other women in this world who still need their rights.

SugarfreeBlitz

I agree with everything you have said, there are many many women internationally whose lives are utterly misery and need help right now, and it’s important to raise awareness and help those women.

But I also want to come back to this from the OP

Some of the people who have posted these things today on my feeds are housewives, SAHM’s who WANTED to put their careers on hold to bring up their children

That right there is massively misogynistic. You need to re think how you value child rearing and caring because it is a vital role in our society.

Nothing wrong with women having a career, and equally there is nothing wrong with women caring for their children. Making a battle between the two helps no women.

Go and read the thread about the woman's husband being a sex pest currently running on MN, she's minimising the incidents. This is a real reason we need to keep fighting, women are still treated as objects in the 21st century and it's revolting.

Read the news today, one man got 4 years for raping a woman in her sleep, 4 years is nothing. Then we have the man sentenced to minimum 23 years for murdering his fiancé with a crowbar.

These things are happening around us, women deserve to be safe from fucking men because the world runs in favour of the male sex.

I first heard of Women's Day in the 90s, when I lived in China.
All the women in my work unit were given a packet of washing powder as a present. Not been much impressed by it since then.

@SugarfreeBlitz

Its INTERNATIONAL womens day though. So what if we are sorted?

What about the plight of women overseas who are still living in slavery, wars, trafficked, routinely raped in India, then stoned , Luigers in China, many women treated appallingly?? Could we who have everything not take a minute to appreciate what we have and maybe donate or highight a worthy cause?

its not all about us There are other women in this world who still need their rights.

exactly why transforming a possibly good idea into meaningless nonsense is a shame

Women in India or China are hardly benefiting from someone smug about their brand new pink and sparkly "sisterhood womens day" tshirt.

As others have posted. You are not wrong if your friends are posting meaningless drivel.

You are also not wrong when we are told we need to inspired by males on IWD and that this diminishes the intent of the day to highlight the inspiration females and also discuss how to keep progressing the right's for females, especially our daughters. It really does feel that things have slipped. The rape prosecution rate, the way women are portrayed in media, that the sex based pay gap is still no where need parity etc.

Plus we also have the situation now with males again representing females in positions set aside for females to ensure that policy is being set that suits female's needs as well as male's.

It feels to me that over the past 5 years, we have needed to have this day even more.

The attacks on the sex trade survivors protesting in Paris yesterday was indeed a sign of just how much.

And their refusal to accept women's right to do as they please even if it doesn't match their own petty little agenda.

Arse about face.
It's not about refusing to accept women's right to do what they please.
It's refusing to accept anyone's 'right' to do whatever they want to women and girls. FGM, throttling, DV, coercive control, employment discrimination,forced marriage etc. (All of those things still happen in the U.K.)

@ErrolTheDragon

And their refusal to accept women's right to do as they please even if it doesn't match their own petty little agenda.

Arse about face.
It's not about refusing to accept women's right to do what they please.
It's refusing to accept anyone's 'right' to do whatever they want to women and girls. FGM, throttling, DV, coercive control, employment discrimination,forced marriage etc. (All of those things still happen in the U.K.)

that is not what I meant at all

but I have to admit I haven't met one woman (or man for the matter) who defended FGM or forced marriage.

I have on the other hand met many women who play the "discrimination" card when what they meant was they wanted special treatment.

@eurochick

I think the OP has spectacularly missed the point. It isn't about saying "Happy Women's Day" to people. It's a time to reflect on the inequalities women suffer in all societies due to the fact that they are women- violence, pay inequality, FGM, access to contraception and abortion to give just a few examples.

Thank you eurochick

Women worldwide are killed and abused just because of their sex.

Pretty flowers aren’t going to solve any ugly
problems are they!

I was watching CNN Middle East earlier in a segment anchored by Becky Anderson. They showed a clip from an interview with a Russian supermodel who had been appointed a UN spokesperson on women's issues.

The supermodel droned on in flawless English about how all women feel the same pressures, and the benefits of a healthy lifestyle, and a good night's sleep. Watching it I thought: wow, isn't this shit and patronising? This woman has made a career out of having the right genetics to be considered so beautiful that people will basically pay to look at her, and now we are all expected to find her inspirational?

Then the camera went back to Becky Anderson and before starting to speak again she gave the camera a very brief look. Lips thinned, eyebrows slightly raised. It communicated what she thought all right.
Nothing wrong with International Women's Day, plenty wrong with this kind of bland corporate box-ticking.