The Mandela Effect

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Has anyone experienced it?
I’m currently sending my head backwards and forwards because I thought “Vimto” was “Vimpto”

@HarrietSchulenberg

I was one of the many people who swore salt n vinegar crisp packets swapped colours with cheese n onion. Apparently they didn't.

This is because in America the colours are swapped. look at the Lays packets. They're the same as Walker's packets minus the same hence the confusion!

Golden Wonder and KP Crisps were better, because the (blue packet) salt and vinegar ones were much more vinegary than greasy, insipid Walkers.

Seabrooks are good, much nicer.

Seabrook crisps are far superior to Walkers too. And their cheese and onion has always been in a green packet.

Seabrooks cheese and onion are in a yellow packet, which actually makes more sense than either blue or green!

Seabrooks cheese and onion are in a yellow and white packet. I have some right here. Sour cream and chive are in green. But I'm mystified about how the Walkers dominance of the UK crisp market came about. Golden Wonder's correctly-coloured cheese and onion is by far the superior product.

@covetingthepreciousthings

I looked into this recently and couldn't believe there wasn't really 52 states of America, as well as the Looney Toons one..

Oh and C3P0 having a silver leg! Who knew!

I remember being taught this. We were simply taught wrong. We were taught 50 states altogether then Hawaii and Alaska making up the 52

Mirror Mirror is a film about Snow White, and I'm sure they say it that way in pantos. So I don't think that's a false memory.

@AleynEivlys

I am going to have to go and rewatch the end and going to be very pissed off to find out I could be wrong

Brut used to be pronounced Brute. In the new ad Vinnie Jones pronounces it as Brew or is it just me??

@honeylulu

The monopoly man without monocle was the one that for me. I've googled loads of images and it's true, no monocle. Where did the mobile memory come from? It's a really common one. Makes me think there must shave been a similar brand image (cartoon man with top hat and monocle) for something else...

In Gone With the Wind the line "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn" is never spoken. Likewise "Play it again, Sam" in Casablanca.

I think it was Planters Mr Peanut that confused it for me. Similar style

I've been fascinated by this since I came across it, and my jury is out because I accept the fallibility of the memory and also the information overload we have now logically makes it more likely to become confused / conflate multiple similar "memories".

BUT I will go to my grave swearing Dolly had braces in Moonraker because of the context - Two unlikely people find love and their commonality is their mouthfuls of metal..... but hey ho, I'm wrong in "this universe" ......

But even apparently intelligent, rational and successful people are not immune.....

I found this video very interesting.

@DahliaMacNamara

Seabrooks cheese and onion are in a yellow and white packet. I have some right here. Sour cream and chive are in green. But I'm mystified about how the Walkers dominance of the UK crisp market came about. Golden Wonder's correctly-coloured cheese and onion is by far the superior product.

There was no Walkers when I was growing up, Golden Wonder or Smiths.

@Counsellortroi

It reminds me of a novel by David Ambrose called The Man Who Turned Into Himself - about a man who finds himself in an alternate universe where JFK was never assassinated (though he was impeached I think) and Marilyn Monroe became the world's favourite grandma.

I think I've read this, though I thought it was called Idlewild as that's what they called the airport that we call JFK in the novel. Maybe it's a different book?

@boltfromtheblueblue

The Mandela effect is just the startling arrogance of people who prefer to believe that the entire universe changed rather than they remembered something wrong. Modern narcissism at it's finest.

This with bells on.

People misremember stuff. That's it.

There are pages and pages and pages of photos of 1980s walkers crisps, all clearly showing that the cheese and onion were blue.
There's 1 picture of a prop / pic made for a BBC show that has it green and it's a chorus of I knew it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Let me dismiss the countless photos of actual blue packets in favour of the only photo in existence of green, even though that one came from a TV show.

www.google.com/search?q=walkers+crisps+1980s&tbm=isch&hl=en-GB&safe=strict&client=ms-android-ee-uk-revc&prmd=isnv&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiQoZCk9KDvAhUIweAKHZ58A0kQrNwCKAB6BQgBELAB&biw=360&bih=568

[quote mangoontoast]**@Counsellortroi

It reminds me of a novel by David Ambrose called The Man Who Turned Into Himself - about a man who finds himself in an alternate universe where JFK was never assassinated (though he was impeached I think) and Marilyn Monroe became the world's favourite grandma.

I think I've read this, though I thought it was called Idlewild as that's what they called the airport that we call JFK in the novel. Maybe it's a different book?[/quote]
I’ve just looked both up on Goodreads coz that sort of thing is right up my street, I think it’s two different books.

@NoNotHimTheOtherOne you gave me an existential crisis because between 1997 and 2007 I graduated school and university, so pretty formative years, yet I was certain I was at home with my little brother (age 6 not 16!) bursting into tears.

Turns out you’ve started a new Mandela!

@Justcallmebebes

Brut used to be pronounced Brute. In the new ad Vinnie Jones pronounces it as Brew or is it just me??

Is it just his cockney glottal stop?

The whole Mandela effect think is bollocks.

I don’t know a single person who thinks he died in prison in the 80s

I always pronounce wardrobe as wardrope. I know how to spell it and I know I'm wrong but I just can't say it with a b in it!!

I've killed off Lionel Blair a few times in my head, and been surprised when he pops up.

😂🤣

Not the ‘Mandela effect’ but on the back of misremembering 9/11, I was in year 7 at the time & a lot of people I know around the same age, including my husband, would swear blind they were watching it live at home at lunch break that day and saw the second plane hit, despite the fact it was almost 2pm over here before even the first plane hit & we were all back in lessons by then.

@CounsellorTroi

I think urban myth also plays a part. Used to work with someone who really did think Master Bates and Seaman Staines were characters in the children‘s TV series Captain Pugwash.

So did my university lecturer in Children's Literature. He also insisted that there was a "Roger the Cabin Boy" in his desperate attempt to inject smut into innocence.

(However I totally believe that Count Faarquaad in "Shrek" is a cleverly disguised "F*ckwad")

@mangoontoast I think they are separate books.

The crisp packet "swap" timeline perfectly coincides with Walkers suddenly becoming the dominant variety of crisp in the early 90s (possibly because they swapped to foil packets) when previously (in my part of the SE anyway) Golden Wonder were the main brand with the odd smattering of KP (their cheese & onion was yellow) and Smiths.

I wonder if age has anything to do with it, I was already 17-18yo by the time Walkers started taking over the market and I don't have any memories fake or otherwise of Walkers cheese & onion being green.

So did my university lecturer in Children's Literature. He also insisted that there was a "Roger the Cabin Boy" in his desperate attempt to inject smut into innocence.

In children's literature??? And he never actually checked it?

(However I totally believe that Count Faarquaad in "Shrek" is a cleverly disguised "Fckwad")*

I always thought it was "fuck Walt Disney".