What time?

[CyberdyneSystems]

In the warmer months to come if you were in your garden drinking, talking, playing music etc what time would you call it a night?

I'm thinking 11:00pm is a fair time, this is a city with neighbour's very close by, not at all rural

Curious for individual opinions, thanks

Surely it depends what you mean by playing music or garden and our neighbours' are both 100-120ft when I'm out gardening I have a little DAB radio that I take arrive with me so I can listen to radio 4, you can't even hear it from one part of my garden to another, let alone or disturbing the neighbours, music at the same volume would be no different. Blaring things out like you're laying around a pool in faliraki, slightly different

We had a BBQ a couple of years ago and invited a whole load of friends. We’re all 20 somethings (DD was staying with my parents for the night and she is one of the handful of young children on our road) and played music and were outside chatting. There were maybe 15 of us max.

We put a note through all of our neighbours doors and let them know we were having friends round and would be in the garden. We put our number on there and asked them to ring us if we were making too much noise. We moved inside from about 9pm anyway so as not to be too loud and it was getting a bit chilly. Not one neighbour complained. I think it was a combination of the heads up, we don’t do it regularly (this was the one and only time we’ve done it in the 4 years we’ve lived here), we moved in at a reasonable time and we gave them an easy way to ask us to quieten down.

@CyberdyneSystems, your neighbours don’t sound like they’re being reasonable at all!

I get depression in the summer for various reasons but one of them is this. I ended up moving bedrooms because neighbours at the back thought it was fine to play music, and sing along, and shout at each other over the music, till 3am every single night of half decent weather. I spoke to them many times and it did no good so for my own sanity I moved to the front of the house where I can’t hear them. The odd party on a weekend, fine. But constant noise is just so selfish.

As a one off I'd put up with Friday/Saturday night noise till late - I mean like a couple of times a year. But not regularly. I'd expect it to be quietening down by 11ish.

I mean on a regular basis of expect in to be quietening down by 11 - I'd put up with the occasional very late night.

I dread the summer months for similar reasons OP. We have a neighbour who plays music all day, it gets louder at dinner time and stays on until late. They then move inside around 11pm and it gets louder. When I asked them at 1am if they could turn it down last summer they then battered on the shared wall screaming "fuck the neighbors".

A little bit of music during the day doesn't bother me. They also have kids who play loudly and that doesn't bother me either. Keeping DS up does bother me but there's not a lot I can do about it. You have my sympathy.

9pm not everyone has weekends off and some of us still have to go to work early in the morning and return late at night andast thing I want to hear is someone's music blaring out

People in the garden - fine. Children playing and shouting, adults laughing and talking - fine.
10pm cut off at weekend.
But please, no music at any time that can be heard in neighbouring gardens. I find that really selfish and anti-social.

We play music in our garden never had a complaint and get on very well with our neighbours. We dont play it loudly or anything although I may occasionally sing along 🤣

Weekends we usually wrap up around 9PM, but our garden loses the sun quite early so I get cold. During the week we are done by around 6PM as we have kids (our neighbours dont) and need to start wrapping the day up.

Don’t you realise your neighbours can hear your music SpnBaby1967?

Why do you think they should have no choice in hearing your music?

What about if they want to have a quiet time in their garden enjoying the sounds of nature, or read a book in peace, or just have some quiet time?

10ish I would say. Maybe a bit later on a weekend.

Those that say absolutely no music in the garden but chatting is fine: How do you feel about someone playing a podcast or talk radio in their garden?

I’d say 11 is reasonable. My neighbours regularly sit in their garden talking very loudly until 3 am during the summer, especially annoying when it’s hot and I want to keep my window open

Playing music in the garden is really anti social, as is having loud parties (drunk adults are generally loud and don’t realise how much the sound carries)

11 is the absolute latest and only on an occasional weekend. But I’d be cursing you if I lived next door.

3/4am. We're a row of 3 houses with us in the middle, and the neighbours on either side join us (or we go to them) so not disturbing anyone. And we don't make a lot of noise anyway.

Probably 10 on the weekend, 8pm on a weekday (there are lots of young families in my area).

@Totallydefeated

Don’t you realise your neighbours can hear your music SpnBaby1967?

Why do you think they should have no choice in hearing your music?

What about if they want to have a quiet time in their garden enjoying the sounds of nature, or read a book in peace, or just have some quiet time?

I honestly couldn’t care less if my neighbours are listening to music in their garden as long as it’s not incredibly loud or full of swearing or adult themes. Then I’d be annoyed because I don’t want my DDs listening to it.

Why should my want to sit in silence trump their want to listen to music?

@AbstractHeart

Those that say absolutely no music in the garden but chatting is fine: How do you feel about someone playing a podcast or talk radio in their garden?

I would say that’s a lot better than music but I still wouldn’t want it going all the time if the gardens are small and close to each other. Hour or two a day would be fine though

@AbstractHeart

Those that say absolutely no music in the garden but chatting is fine: How do you feel about someone playing a podcast or talk radio in their garden?

Podcast is fine. It's like people talking. As pp said, not ALL the time though.

Why should my want to sit in silence trump their want to listen to music?

Because not having music on is the default.

By not playing music you aren’t changing anything for anyone. Those who play music outside are.

What’s wrong with listening inside, or with earplugs? That way those who want music can have it, and those that don’t get to be in peace. Everyone’s a winner, nobody’s having something imposed on them they don’t want.

Why should my want to sit in silence trump their want to listen to music?

Because a) it’s not just you and them, it’s all the other surrounding neighbours too, and the chances of them all being fine with the music are slim
b) playing music affects others. Silence doesn’t. A choice that doesn’t affect others will trump a choice that does.

It’s a bit like saying why shouldn’t I smoke in restaurants - why should other diners’ choice not to eat with smoke around them trump my choice to smoke? Surely you can see why.

Why should my want to sit in silence trump their want to listen to music?

Because people have different atyles. Because outside isn't a provate living room. Because it's REALLY bloody annoying after 6 hours. Because we all have space where we can listen to whatever the heck we want -> inside our homes.

I have never encountered loud radio outside before I moved to UK. It's just inconsiderate.

@Totallydefeated

Don’t you realise your neighbours can hear your music SpnBaby1967?

Why do you think they should have no choice in hearing your music?

What about if they want to have a quiet time in their garden enjoying the sounds of nature, or read a book in peace, or just have some quiet time?

Its not like I'm playing it full blast & recreating my own version of Glastonbury in my garden.

Its on low, enough to hear when sitting round the garden table on bluetooth speaker as background music whilst we're chatting.

I imagine the screams of my children in the pool is more disruptive

different for a one off, compared to regular.
I'm pretty tolerant, and so woudl tolerate a late night for a special occasion/one off, without cmplaining.

On a regular weekend 10pm start winding down voices/chat/laughter 11pm go in and be quiet.
One neighbour 3 houses down from us often plays loud music in the summer. I don't mind quiet music, but I know a lot do mind it, but loud music in your garden is really antisocial, and it really needs to go off earlier I think.

Weekdays 9pm max. for winding down.

I think for your neighbours, I would start with a slightly earlier time, as they will take 15-30 minutes to 'clear up' and go insiode anyway.

Council noise is usually 11 pm I think, so that might be your reference point

I agree with the 'no music in the garden' camp. Unless it's very much a one-off on a special occasion, it's just a nuisance for everyone else.

Anecdotally, I have noticed that all the people who play music in their gardens have absolutely appalling taste in music.