Joggers should be banned from paths and pavements

[BalancedIndividual]

As a car driver I find that the occasional cyclist breaks highway codes, cycles dangerously, or cycles without care and consideration. Key word being occasional, so no biggie. Just like how the occasional car diver is a .

But as a pedestrian going for a stroll in the park, the number of rude, selfish, careless and aggressive joggers i've seen is ridiculous high.

I see a jogger coming towards me, I walk to the side/edge of the path, but joggers always decide to keep running straight down the middle....

Similar to the above, joggers not keep a safe distance, and actually brushing past me.

And lastly, the worst offenders, joggers running side by side taking up the whole path, coming towards me, and giving me looks as if im supposed to jump out the way and off the path. ***

I honestly think legislation should be brought in to ban jogging on paths and pavements. Restricting joggers to grassland/cross country, outdoor tracks, private land, and the gym. The same way that cycling isnt permitted on pavements.

AIBU?

@ravenmum

People can run wherever they want, as long as its not on a public pedestrian pavement/path. I didn't realise that, is it in the Highway Code?

The OP is making it up as he goes along

People can run wherever they want, as long as its not on a public pedestrian pavement/path

Fixed that for you

People can run wherever they want, as long as its not on a public pedestrian pavement/path

Try again 🤦‍♀️. Fixed that for you

The same way id tell a runner to run on a sports track.
My nearest public running track is 25 miles away. That's hardly staying local to exercise is it?

Or a jogger to run on a treadmill at the gym or across grassland.
I'm not a member of a gym and have no desire to join one as I can run outside for free. Plus treadmills are awful - I run because I like exercising outside and like the scenery.
There also isn't any suitable 'grassland' anywhere near me.

People can run wherever they want, as long as its not on a public pedestrian pavement/path.

I'm actually embarrassed for you.

There are some seriously rude joggers here, the worst is the woman who yells "coming through" with her group of 7 trailing behind in 2's (not even permitted), not sure why I should walk onto the muddy wet grass to let them pass???

@Wavescrashingonthebeach

It's not something that ever used to bother me until i acquired a rather large rescue dog. Surprise, surprise it turns out most dogs dont like someone running directly at you at high speed, they see it as an attack. It used to really bother me and id walk in the road to avoid the joggers. But now im just like i double fucking dare you to run right at me, if you are stupid enough to do it, then you deserve my scary looking dog to lunge & growl at you! And the funny thing is i think the dog has picked up on my attitude change and he is cool as a cucumber now

So, I take it you walk on the left of the shared use path that is wide enough to share and your growling dog is on a leash that is not fully extended all the time?

If so, all good and anyone running 'at you' is being inconsiderate if the path is wide enough.

I find most runners in my areas, including me, stay running on the left until in range to move over if a walker is walking toward me on their right hand side.

@UrAWizHarry

"Youll see ive quoted and responded to people who disagree...."

Yeah, to continue being a goady twat and not to actually take anything on board.

Again with the name calling. Says plenty about you imo.

And actually, I have taken some things on-board.

1. I need to find a park in a nicer area (where the joggers are more decent people).

1. I should probably start avoiding crowded parks, and go for walks in less busy places or off the beaten track.

Tbf, it mag well be its just joggers in my local area who are like this.

What does it say, other than I think you are a being a goady twat?

Sweet fuck-all, is the answer to that.

You are the one after, what, a week, still coming out with such utter nonsense as runners not being allowed on pavements and only running on running tracks. If you really can't see why that isn't goady as fuck I can't help you.

@Iknewyouwerewaitingforme

OP sorry if you’ve answered- but other than walking do you actually do any exercise that really actually raises your heart rate- like running? As this is recommended for fitness and health you know.

I do suspect you’re actually bitter and envious as really you’d like to run.

Can you imagine if running was banned from pavements right now and all runners had to walk instead? There’d literally be traffic jams with beards of slow moving zombies walking the pavements at snail pace. Don’t be silly. Just run, you know you want to

Yes. But not running.

In the past - jogging and martial arts.

(I used to be a considerate jogger and would ALWAYS jog off a narrow path when coming across people)

Now - Light weights, body weight exercises, and some HIIT. At home, but used to be gym and home.

(Stopped jogging, as lost weight too easily and ended up looking lanky, opposed to toned.)

Im not saying all joggers are bad btw, but when a large fraction act inconsiderate, it ruins it for everyone.

@UrAWizHarry

What does it say, other than I think you are a being a goady twat?

Sweet fuck-all, is the answer to that.

You are the one after, what, a week, still coming out with such utter nonsense as runners not being allowed on pavements and only running on running tracks. If you really can't see why that isn't goady as fuck I can't help you.

Do you every give way to people walking? Or do you just charge through them?

And actually, I have taken some things on-board.
1. I need to find a park in a nicer area (where the joggers are more decent people).
Goady much?
2. I should probably start avoiding crowded parks, and go for walks in less busy places or off the beaten track.
Careful, you might get a horrible surprise with this plan.
There's several running clubs in my nice area so there's actually lots of runners and given you seem to be pushed to breaking point at the sight of runners (or as you say 'joggers') on paths then the trip to a 'nice' area could be quite upsetting for you.
You also need to be careful if you go off the beaten track. Some of us pesky runners are trail runners or fell runners and it might be positively triggering for you.

In fact, wherever you go to walk there's a chance you might encounter people moving quicker than you. It's a scary world out there.

*So, I take it you walk on the left of the shared use path that is wide enough to share and your growling dog is on a leash that is not fully extended all the time?

If so, all good and anyone running 'at you' is being inconsiderate if the path is wide enough.

I find most runners in my areas, including me, stay running on the left until in range to move over if a walker is walking toward me on their right hand side.*

He's on a short lead with a head collar. There's no need to be patronising.
And he only growls if they literally run at speed within a very very close range of us, which i think is a perfectly normal reaction. So fuck off with your patronising assumptions.

I run on rural paths and roads so rarely ever come across anyone, but yes, of course I give way and am considerate.

I presume for my reward I'd have you yelling "find a track" after me, despite there not being one for about, oh, 50 miles.

If you've experienced joggers barging past you and your 2 year old and nearly running you over on multiple occasions maybe you'd feel differently.

So, I take it you are walking with your 2 year old close to you and you have allowed plenty of room to be overtaken from either direction?

Or, are you like one of the other posters who seem to believe that toddlers should be able to wander freely and the parent not keep tabs on people coming from either direction to keep the free wandering toddler out of people's path?

I have been called an 'anxious parent' in the past for saying that when my child was a toddler, I was super vigilant about making sure they were not in someone's path, including other parents who could not see over their buggies or were too busy chatting to their mate walking beside them.

That is just the way that Mumsnet works. People disagree all the time about who is entitled to what without recourse, or who is breaking the code of considerate behaviour. Considerate walking behaviour is just one of them.

@Helleofabore

And yes i am walked as far over onto the shared path as i can be. I dont take up the whole pavement. I apologise for my language but your post came across as incredibly condescending. Ive had large men run right at me at speed how do you think he will react? Like i said he doesnt any more he is much better socialised.
Im sure you are a considerate jogger, i am myself, ran a marathon n everythin (had to get that in there) but not everyone else is some people are just dicks and your post was very much insinuating that it was my problem that people were running right at me.

Completely unreasonable.

@UrAWizHarry

I run on rural paths and roads so rarely ever come across anyone, but yes, of course I give way and am considerate.

I presume for my reward I'd have you yelling "find a track" after me, despite there not being one for about, oh, 50 miles.

In that case youre one of the considerate joggers.

Again, most joggers will pass by and be considerate, no problem, 2 out of 3. But then theres that 1 in 3, that will be a complete penis.

You lost me at 'jogger'.

It's not runners. Or children. Or cyclists. Or families. Or older couples. Or teenagers. Or joggers. Or dog walkers.

Its just people. Some people are rude and entitled. Some people think the world revolves around them. Some people have no tolerance. Ring any bells OP??

It doesn't matter how you propel yourself forward. Walk, jogger, run, sprint or feckin cartwheel. Just share the space considerately.

Do you every give way to people walking? Or do you just charge through them?

If they are blocking the path fully, I say 'excuse me' and the cheeky path hoggers generally pull to one side. If they are too engrossed in their discussion and ignore me, I have been known to find a gap and run through. Why? Because it is a wide pathway with uneven grass on the edges. Last time I got off to avoid people blocking the path, I sprained an ankle in the uneven grass.

Because the path I use is a shared path, it is signposted as a shared path and yet, groups of walkers still feel that others should run 'on the grass' to avoid them.

So, again. I think you realise by now that there are inconsiderate users of all types. That there are NO restrictions on running on paths and that EVERY user has a responsibility to be considerate. And that most people are.

Wavescrashingonthebeach

Apologies Waves. I genuinely meant that if you have done all that you could do to be considerate, that those jogging directly at you are being inconsiderate.

Again, most joggers will pass by and be considerate, no problem, 2 out of 3. But then theres that 1 in 3, that will be a complete penis.

And yet, you are calling for us all to be banned!

What's the difference between a 'jogger' and a 'runner'?

@turquoisewaters

What's the difference between a 'jogger' and a 'runner'?

Semantics.

I went for a walk today. All the runners were perfectly nice. Walkers, however, didn't single file. Absolutely zero concern for others.

OP, what makes you think that I want to run the same 400m track 12.5 times over to get to 5k?

turquoisewaters
It's probably something silly like people on here not having a problem with people on bikes, but cyclists are evil, lycra wearing individuals who are simultaneously so slow they cause the world to grind to a halt and so speedy that their reckless tour de France style riding is a hazard to everyone.

Joggers are probably anyone doing more than a walk if the person speaking wants to disparage them, or they're anyone moving faster than walking pace if the person speaking knows nothing about running and thinks running happens on tracks so everything else is jogging.

@BalancedIndividual

People can run wherever they want, as long as its not on a public pedestrian pavement/path.

What is a jogger/runner if not a pedestrian? They are on foot. The clue's in the name.

Also, you say we can run wherever we want, but in the same sentence you say we can't run wherever we want. Which is it?