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...to stop seeing an interesting, good looking guy because of his wacky conspiracy theories?

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aurynne · 05/03/2021 01:19

I am in my 40s, separated a year ago. Recently I started using OLD (online dating) again, because I miss having someone around, and am also trying to get a FWB whom I got too close to out of my mind (see previous thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/4080749-Friend-with-mind-blowingly-good-benefits-and-feelings?msgid=101799753 here).

I discovered the apps Bumble and Hinge, which give women all the control, as guys cannot contact us unless we specifically match their profile or "swipe right" on them, and I have been enjoying some chats and in face to face dates with 4 guys so far, all of which have been lovely.

One of the dates is a cute foreign guy with a sexy accent which I have seen 5 times so far, and I had started to consider taking the dates to the next stage. There is only one (big) problem which has slowly been creeping in as we chat about worldly events. Bear with me.

One of the things I loved about seeing this guy is that we talked for hours about al kind of interesting subjects, from our jobs to science, to religion, to economy to politics. And herein lies the problem too. Soon he started mentioning that the pandemic "is not all it looks to be". That Trump "was not as bad as 'they' made him look". That he and his family will never be taking the COVID vaccine because "Big Pharma's interests are in making us all a bit sick so we keep buying frugs from them, and the components of the vaccine is not what 'they' say they are". "They", apparently, are "The Media", who he believes are telling lies in order - I kid you not - to protect a higher elite of people who have a massive pedophile ring set together and that include satanic rituals with babies.

I swear it to you, Mumsnet, originally he sounded like a completely sane, intelligent, normal guy with 4 children, 3 of them adults, a good job and great hobbies he was starting to share with me.

Now he sends me links to Twitter messages from people who look for conspiracy theory clies everywhere. One shows a short video of a hospital with someone setting a camera ("this is a hospital in Israel, 'they' are setting the stage to fake that they have a lot of COVID patients"), a caption of the French president Macron being vaccinated where apparently the syringe needle did not retract ("this proves he did not REALLY take the vaccine", a link to an interpretation of the front cover of a 2018 The Economist saying that there are predictions on that cover that prove the existence of the 'fake' pandemic, the pedophile ring, etc etc.

It is exhausting. He does not seem to register that, once you become convinced that there's a conspiracy theory everywhere, your brain will interpret anything as a "clue" or a "pattern" to confirm what you already believe. That I work in a hospital, and sometimes we have cameras there... the news have come to talk about a case, or professionals to film a procedure... That I work with the same syringes that the guy in the macron video uses... half of the time they do not retract due to a faulty design... That when someone actively chooses to believe the most unlikely reason why something happens, therein lies madness, and they may as well end up in a mental institution with paranoia, looking for hidden patterns in the list of ingredients of cereal boxes.

But the fact is, I now find myself unable to take him seriously and my interest in him has evaporated. On top of being exhausted and fed up of feeling I need to disprove any utterly incongruent link, video or twit he chooses to believe.

Another of the guys I was chatting was similarly interesting at the beginning, but now that I checked his Facebook profile, it is full of similar conspiracies about the Coronavirus being a hoax, and the Government of New Zealand being in on a communist plan to enslave the population... every time there is a couple of community cases and a small lockdown ensues, he goes haywire posting about "government control of freedom", Jacinda Ardern "being in on it" about population mind control and all sorts of wacko posts with lots of exclamation marks in the end.

Are there really so many people (or is it mainly guys?) obsessed with these new conspiracy theories to the point of almost paranoia? It really is putting me off. And really making me concerned to the future of our species, if from now on anything that happens is going to be disbelieved and ignored as "fake news" and "a master plan from the evil Media".

Last night there were a series of massive earthquakes North East of New Zealand and there is a tsunami warning for most of the coastal areas. Well, some facebook posts have started to appear also saying this is fake news, and another trick from "The Elite" to keep the sheeple under control. Many of these people are ignoring the tsunami warnings. FFS, most of New Zealand could actually FEEL the shakes! Do they really think this was fake too?

Can be really turning THAT stupid as a species?

OP posts:
Storingeggs · 05/03/2021 08:41

YANBU. That vaccine video is so obviously rubbish I can’t believe anyone takes it seriously. However, can I add to the “Wacky” list the dementors who a) own their own home and are retired/wfh and b) people having a jolly old time on furlough neither of whom have the slightest idea what it’s like to a) lose your job and rely on food banks b) have kids in exam year who have lost all motivation c) live in a tiny flat with kids? These people love lockdown any suggestion that it would be nice to go out and have fun again and they wail “But Auntie Mauds next door neighbour died!” This in their mind ends any conversation. Anyone they are going out is a covid Ito and they are boss fully happy. There are people that I really like but these days the only safe topic of conversation is the weather.

Storingeggs · 05/03/2021 08:42

*Anyone they see out and about is a covidiot

sanfranfibber · 05/03/2021 09:03

RUN OP!

Also, pedantic but Hinge doesn't stop guys from contacting you first. Not a big deal but if that's what you're looking for or feel safer with, that's a Bumble feature only.

uglyswan · 05/03/2021 09:03

Good call OP.

Reddit has a forum for people trying to cope with family members and loved ones who have gone down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole and spiralled out of control: www.reddit.com/r/QAnonCasualties - it's a very sobering read on the damage this type of thinking does to families and relationships.

30PercentRecycled · 05/03/2021 13:27

@Freezeboy

I think it’s good to have some logical thinking skills and read between the line with some news however this is way beyond that! Run away quickly.

I once read “if you have ever organised a meet up / party / been a project manager and realised how hard it is to get 10 people to do what they are supposed to do, on time and in secret then conspiracy theories seem even harder to believe”

Yep. This is what I always say.

Stoner gamer loners in bedrooms who don't even organise their own laundry seem to buy into movie depictions of how organisations work.

No, you loon, Hydra and Spectre wouldn't be real, nor would Stark Industries.

FFS bits fall off Boeings, the Hubble Space Telescope was myopic and we can't even do Test and Trace properly.

These same guys will carry a mobile phone that tracks them for real and openly discuss conspiracy theories online under their own names or easily traceable.

I swear they think real life is a fantasy game.

whatisheupto · 05/03/2021 13:44

Tell him you're worried he might be spreading fake news and you're not sure whether to trust his theories, or if they are all being made up to control people. Hopefully the irony doesn't escape him.

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