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To think there is no LGBT community?

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Dalyesque · 26/02/2021 19:53

I guess I am really pissed off that I a lesbian woman (funny that I need to qualify the word lesbian) am grouped in with the mythical community labelled LGBT. We are not a community and I feel more part of a lesbian/feminist/ women’s community . Practically nothing to do with gay men though we can all acknowledge same sex attraction, a bit of a cross over with bi women, but nothing at all in common with men or transwomen.

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Linning · 27/02/2021 17:58

OP it’s very strange that you aren’t part of the community and have rejected fully as you say, but yet seem to know exactly what happens in the community for lesbians.

I am part of the biggest lesbian community in the world likely (I live in the Bay Area, we have our own lesbian bars, own lesbians events a couple of times a week etc...) and I have yet to see a trans woman or anyone trying to convince me or others that we are trans. None. And I work closely with the LGBT community , especially the Lesbian and trans community & attend 99% of the events etc.

Not saying that no trans individual didn’t ever suggest to a butch lesbian or non-binary individual they might be trans, somewhere at some point. But you implying it’s happening all the time everywhere is completely untrue. Most trans people are focusing on their own journey to acceptance they aren’t out there trying to convince you, you are trans.

Also how would trans-women who like women benefit from you feeling like you are a man? It simply doesn’t as it would naturally reduce
their dating pool.

Is there some issues within the community about women/lesbian being able to express they don’t want to date folks with penises irrelevant of how they identify? Yes at times and that’s not okay and should never happen. But as someone who don’t date anyone with a penis, and have no problem making it clear (in a respectful way) I have never ever had an issue about stating my preferences and most of my lesbian friends are similar and also have never had an issue.

As for the “straight women” who are like “I am straight but totally agree lesbians are being marginalized and the LGBTQ+ community doesn’t exist.” They deserve a massive eye-roll.

Unless you are part of the community, it really isn’t your space to come confirm or deny anything about the community (you don’t believe exist anyway).

The only ones who have really oppressed me and continue to try and convince me I am not a lesbian or who want to benefit from my sexuality are straight people. Who also now feel like they are entitled to talk on my/other lesbians behalf to support their own agendas and convictions. I find those a much bigger problem and threat to our community than trans people.

Dalyesque · 27/02/2021 21:18

How do you explain the exponential growth in girls wanting to transition? It was never a thing before the trans movement got going, backed by huge sums of money and so many men transitioning.

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Linning · 27/02/2021 21:34

@Dalyesque

How do you explain the exponential growth in girls wanting to transition? It was never a thing before the trans movement got going, backed by huge sums of money and so many men transitioning.
How do you explain the number of people coming out as gay and lesbians? It never used to happen until we started backing gay rights and gay people starting appearing all over media and shoving it down our throat.

Some things are more acceptable nowadays hence why more people are choosing to come out or transition. Before it would have been dangerous or down right illegal to do so, now it’s not.

Implying that seeing trans people transition is what make women want to transition. Is akin to people saying seeing gay people can turn kids gay.

A lot of things were never a thing 50 years ago (heard of the apartheid in South Africa less than 30 years ago?). Thankfully things evolve and things that were unaccepted before are now accepted meaning more people do them. They likely would have done that 50 years ago too if it was societally accepted and not discriminated against. Or do you genuinely think there are more lesbians in society now than there was a 100 years ago and that you and me are gay and out because it’s now the done thing but would have been straight if it wasn’t so accepted and present in media?

puppychaos · 28/02/2021 16:38

@Dalyesque Yep, I have issues with men being in the community. I do not however have an issue with trans women being in the community, because they are women.

Sapho47 · 28/02/2021 16:57

Were you expecting weekly meetings or something?

Sapho47 · 28/02/2021 16:58

@Dalyesque

How do you explain the exponential growth in girls wanting to transition? It was never a thing before the trans movement got going, backed by huge sums of money and so many men transitioning.
I suppose its like the exponential growth if any new medical treatment.

Before there weren't many options now there, so more people take treatment as there's hope.

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