AIBU to use WeightWatchers like this?!

[CremeEggFan]

So, I've joined weightwatchers. I've been given an allowance of 32 points a day to use. As far as I'm concerned, I can eat whatever I want as long as I stick to the 32 points.

So, for example Breakfast is a 500ml can of sugar free energy drink. 0 Points.

Lunch is a packet of Pom Bears and Two Mini Egg Cakes. 13 Points.

Dinner is Ten Quorn Nuggets and Reduced Sugar Ketchup. 9 Points.

Then after dinner is a packet of french fries crisps, a cadbury caramel cake bar, a mini milk ice lolly and a twister ice lolly. 10 points.

That's my 32 points. Will I loose weight like this as I've stuck to my points allowance?

Yes you will lose weight but you won't be healthy.

Why would it be unreasonable? What/how you eat it up to you.

You probably will lose weight but you will feel like shit and you will be hungry and have cravings.

You might find that you lose weight for a little while doing this but a) it isn't good for you and b) based on previous experience, it's likely that you will plateau quickly.

On the older plans it was easier to 'cheat' the system like this and still lose weight but on the current plans I find that unless the majority of my week is spent eating generally healthily (even if I am within my points budget) I don't lose

Is this meant to be a weird ‘hilarious’ joke about WW/slimming world?

Is this one of those anti WW/SW posts?

@Sparklesocks

Is this meant to be a weird ‘hilarious’ joke about WW/slimming world?

Yes, one of the usual snobby MN posts.

The only thing there with any nutritional value other than sugar is the Quorn nuggets. You are not even getting '1 a day' in terms of fruit and veg. You'll find you lack energy, have blood sugar spikes and falls giving you cravings and in the long term a diet full of processed rubbish will affect the quality of things like your skin, hair and nails.

You will lose weight but you might find you will feel a bit sick in the short term and suffer from vitamin deficiency in the longer term.

Well, it would be a good test to see if it works!

But that really isn't a healthy diet. You know that.

Once you realise that food is actually fuel for our bodies, and we need different things to support different bits it gets easy to eat more fruit and vegetables etc.

Weight Watchers used to go on about training you to make healthy choices. I think it did that for me. I clearly remember the first time in a restaurant I didn't order something with chips because I actually didn't want them. It was a great moment! That was 30 years ago. I still struggle with my weight though!

You might lose weight but you are likely to be hungry. If you only do it for a short term or the odd day, you probably won't cause any lasting damage.

But you must know that it's not actually 'doing weightwatchers' and they probably have some recommendations about eating vegetables and other healthy food most of the time?

You'll be miserable and starving all day and tempted to properly cheat. What's they point of paying for something and setting yourself up to fail?

You might be interested in the Twinkie diet where an overweight US dietician lost nearly 2 stone in 2 months eating only some nasty packaged cake bars, but limiting calories.

There's no point in paying for WW or Slimming World if you're not going to enter into the spirit of the diet. The idea is that you fill up on the free foods and use the points for treats or healthy but relatively high-calorie things such as cheese.

If you want to lose weight while eating rubbish, while inadvisable, you might as well just count calories.

@Sparklesocks

Is this meant to be a weird ‘hilarious’ joke about WW/slimming world?

This isn't a joke.

You're either taking the piss out of the system they use for people to count in 'treats' or willfully ignoring all of the advice that WW (and SW) give about making your food revolve around healthy and colourful vegetables.

The first is a bit shitty, the plans when taught and followed correctly do help people re-evaluate how they view food and how to balance choices sensibly.

The second just shows you aren't actually motivated to lose weight if you just want to fill your body with poison energy drinks, salt and sugar.

This was basically my diet prior to weightwatchers but fifty times the amount. So everything listed in the OP plus a bacon and egg sandwich, lots of cheese, big bars of chocolate, sweet Popcorn, jam doughnuts, cornetto, chips, burgers, golden syrup, energy drinks but the full sugar version rather than sugar free, several creme eggs day, etc. So it's basically the same diet but sticking within the points allowance that weightwatchers gives.

Why wouldn't you use your points more widely though?

Wisely

@BarbaraofSeville

You might be interested in the Twinkie diet where an overweight US dietician lost nearly 2 stone in 2 months eating only some nasty packaged cake bars, but limiting calories.

Someone did it by going to McDonalds for every meal.

@CremeEggFan

This was basically my diet prior to weightwatchers but fifty times the amount. So everything listed in the OP plus a bacon and egg sandwich, lots of cheese, big bars of chocolate, sweet Popcorn, jam doughnuts, cornetto, chips, burgers, golden syrup, energy drinks but the full sugar version rather than sugar free, several creme eggs day, etc. So it's basically the same diet but sticking within the points allowance that weightwatchers gives.

Well cutting down on portion sizes is one of the most well known and simplest ways of losing weight. You could keep the egg sandwiches and drop some of the other stuff. Unfortunately, I never get anywhere near my 5 a day and have never been overweight. It's obviously not ideal from a health point of view, but it's totally possible.

@CremeEggFan

This was basically my diet prior to weightwatchers but fifty times the amount. So everything listed in the OP plus a bacon and egg sandwich, lots of cheese, big bars of chocolate, sweet Popcorn, jam doughnuts, cornetto, chips, burgers, golden syrup, energy drinks but the full sugar version rather than sugar free, several creme eggs day, etc. So it's basically the same diet but sticking within the points allowance that weightwatchers gives.

I say again, why on earth are you paying for WW membership when you are essentially ignoring the basis of their eating plan?

If you want to carry on filling yourself with rubbish, with processed foods that are adding nothing to your health and may even damage it with repeated intake and nothing to counterbalance them, why not just count calories?

I recently tried some Slimfast shakes and found they are mainly full of sugar and additives, plus they recommend bars full of it as well...but I guess if calories low enough it still works must not be very healthy though.

That’s not going to fill you up or have any nutritional value . You will barely have the energy to do anything.
Learn about healthy eating loads online , eat sensibly in moderation and move more .
Sorry op but you may loose weight but you will pile it all back on because you are not changing your bad habits .

@Orangeblossom1977

I recently tried some Slimfast shakes and found they are mainly full of sugar and additives, plus they recommend bars full of it as well...but I guess if calories low enough it still works must not be very healthy though.

I think things like Slimfast are best as a quick fix, either to kickstart a diet or lose a small amount of weight as a one off. Unless you want to be living off shakes for the rest of your life, they won't help you change your eating habits in the long term.