to think internet shaming people for legal behaviour is shitty behaviour

[KeflavikAirport]

My FB is awash with petitions to ban some South African woman for posting pictures of giraffe hunting. People are calling her murderous scum and all sorts. Now I'm not a fan of trophy hunting personally but like it or not, it's legal. AIBU to think that joining a baying internet mob to hound a woman who has done nothing illegal is pretty shitty behaviour in its own right? And no I won't be signing your petition. Lobby to make trophy hunting illegal if you care that much.

@KeflavikAirport

Would I voice my disapproval of legal but immoral activity? Yes if it was local and might make a difference. Not if it was something on the other side of the world where me posting “murderous scum” from the comfort of my own home made no difference. If it was something I felt strongly enough about I would pitch my activism where it mattered. And sorry but I think trophy hunting is more of a grey area morally than marital rape or FGM,

So your issue is about trophy hunting specifically rather than shaming people for choices.

Everyone has a slightly different moral compass. You can’t expect everyone to be outraged by the same things.

YABVU! Possessing images of child pornography was legal in Japan until very recently, I certainly would’ve made my views on it very clear if a person put online that they were doing that!! Legal doesn’t equal moral and there are countless example of it.

@GirlLovesWorld

If you kill giraffes just to pass the time of day then you're a fucking disgusting human. The best you deserve is people pointing that fact out to you.

This. If you must do something vile have the sense not to show off about it.

@KeflavikAirport

Eh? I’m not one for piling on, I’m usually the pilee not the piler on here as recent threads will demonstrate

You do know that very easy to search?

The monarch for example. Legal. But you seem happy to pile on them

but the reverse is also true - what is illegal isn't necessarily immoral or unethical either

Why the but rather than an and?

@DGRossetti no it’s not culling for environmental reasons, it’s allowing trophy hunting for the huge amount of money which the conservation couldn’t hope to raise through other means

Live by the sword, die by the sword. If people post provocative (albeit legal) stuff on social media, they have to expect a reaction. She wasn't obliged to show off about it.

Someone mentioned FGM earlier. That is still legal in some countries, so would you consider it OK for someone to boast about an FGM operation they'd done that day on a young girl?

[quote ShirleyPhallus]@DGRossetti no it’s not culling for environmental reasons, it’s allowing trophy hunting for the huge amount of money which the conservation couldn’t hope to raise through other means[/quote]
So a slightly more complex issue then ?

All very well to be superior and decry trophy hunting from a relatively rich country like UK. But it does rather swerve the poverty in countries whose only access to big bucks is via trophy hunting. It also avoids the need to ask why that poverty exists and where it came from ...

For some of those doing the hounding, it's not illegal where they are. So, like her giraffe hunting, does it make it ok?

Ok i will hold my hand up to piling on the monarchy. I think they can take it. Compare and contrast with the religion in schools thread.

Just because it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s ethical. She was selfish enough to not think outside of her own pathetic needs before killing an innocent animal for fun and pose next to its body looking proud. The deliberate harm inflicted turns my stomach at the thought of someone being able to be so cruel. She deserves everything she gets.

@DGRossetti the poor in these countries get money from trophy hunting? Not to my knowledge. Much of it goes into pockets of very rich private game park owners. Yes, in Zimbabwe a reasonable amount (not much either) goes to government to shore up a murderous regime that's dealing with international isolation

And just to say, giraffes in Africa are facing very rapid decline with possibility of extinction in our times if more isn't done to protect them.

Human slavery used to be legal at one point, doesn’t make it ok.

Someone mentioned FGM earlier. That is still legal in some countries, so would you consider it OK for someone to boast about an FGM operation they'd done that day on a young girl?

I replied to this point earlier. Venting your spleen on FB is pointless or worse than pointless because it fosters the illusion of activism while maintaining the status quo. Actually campaigning against FGM is a whole different matter.

If you invite the world to comment on your activities, a predictable outcome is that most people will have negative opinions.

If you kill giraffes just to pass the time of day then you're a fucking disgusting human. The best you deserve is people pointing that fact out to you

Ditto

Just because something's legal doesn't make it right. This isn't right. In fact it's disgusting and she's getting off lightly. She needs shooting.

@DGRossetti yes it’s a very complex issue - did you read my post, that’s exactly what I am saying. Very easy to sit and judge from our privileged position but the situation is rather more difficult for those in poor countries who need the money they can get

OP, you're obviously not a nice person.

Ignoring that, it used to be legal to be racist - does that make it ok? No. So what happened, people saw it was immoral and eventually the law changed.

It is not legal to hunt giraffe in SA. Stop acting like it is. Stop not giving the full picture. It is only legal in a set of specific circumstances. So make sure you first check that she met all those before giving all your legal bullshit.

p.s I know I overly simplified the racist point but OP seems to only think of issues simply, so it was for ease.

Anyone who hunts giraffes {or any other game} is grotesque in my opinion.
Nature sorts itself out in a healthy environment.
Sick or weak animals will be hunted by other animals for food, and if deer without natural predators {Say in enclosed parks} need culling, it should be done not as a sport, but by a professional gamekeeper, who will not be boasting about it.

@LaurieFairyCake

Huh?

There are plenty of practices that are legal or carry little penalty - FgM springs to mind

She deserves approbation online - it's an abhorrent practice and needs to stop

If you are in the UK then FGM in not legal - it is illegal.

should read IS NOT LEGAL

FGM is illegal and should be reported if you know of it. Totally wrong, disgusting and ILLEGAL

I don't care if it is 'legal' or not. People who shoot giraffes for fun are despicable and sick in the head. They are the scum of the Earth and if people criticise them on the internet, then good. They deserve everything they get. Maybe it might make them think twice about doing it in future.