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THANKS A LOT BREXITEERS (and good luck when you order items from abroad)!

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customchaos · 20/02/2021 21:21

I recently bought some art through an online website (think, a bit like Etsy, but not that one). So the item was £400, plus £140 delivery, which I did think it was a lot, but it was being shipped from Russia. Anyway, two weeks later, I get an email from the website company, to tell me the item is being held at the depot and I am required to contact Parcelforce to pay a customs tax. I phoned up and the tax is to the tune of £140. For an item costing £400! Apparently this is the new post-Brexit norm. Just to get what you have ordered over the border!

I’ve also ordered more art from Bulgaria which is apparently in its way now and I’m really worried as this was more expensive (just under £3000). Does this mean I going to be charged another ridiculous amount as customs tax?

I’ve been on to HMRC today and they are no help, beyond saying “yes this is because of Brexit,” “No we’re not sure if you’ve been charged the right amount or why,” and “You will need to pay first and them make a claim if you think you’ve been overcharged.”

So basically, is this the end of ordering from abroad? What madness is this?

OP posts:
Jeremyironseverything · 21/02/2021 06:23

Much as I was against brexit, I think it's done us a huge favour vaccine wise. I've almost forgiven leavers.

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow · 21/02/2021 06:24

I’m very confused - when did Russia join the EU?

PracticingPerson · 21/02/2021 06:28

@Jeremyironseverything

Much as I was against brexit, I think it's done us a huge favour vaccine wise. I've almost forgiven leavers.
We could have still done the same thing, we wouldn't have been forced to opt in.
SimonJT · 21/02/2021 06:37

I’m surprised by the number of posters who don’t realise that the EU has trade deals with non-EU countries, the EU is a huge investor in Russia, Russia also exports around €12 billion worth of goods a year to the EU. I think their tarrif is around 8%.

We’ve noticed a difference OP, I order our petfood online, it comes from the EU, not only are there now import charges but delivery is also a lot more expensive now and takes a lot longer from their Dutch warehouses.

The prices my partner now has to pay to send gifts to his little brother in the EU have increased significantly.

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/02/2021 06:40

Frenchfancie
Omg that’s awful. Disgusting.

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/02/2021 06:41

Simon
Exactly. The government were too busy with rhetoric and propaganda to actually address the real issues... including Coronavirus.

RedMarauder · 21/02/2021 06:56

@Mummyoflittledragon they got Brexit done...along the way screwing performing artists who tour and businesses that export to the EU plus people who send presents to people who live in the EU. However we can all buy British.....

AnitaB888 · 21/02/2021 06:57

@customchaos Спасибо за помощь в решении нашего дефицита платежного баланса, любимый Влад x

oakleaffy · 21/02/2021 07:04

@customchaos

Cука блять! Брексит .....

Punching · 21/02/2021 07:05

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GCAcademic · 21/02/2021 07:08

@wonderstuff

A company in say Russia wants to export, they have to be able to fill in lots of paperwork in order to export and pay VAT, the system is the same across 27 of the richest countries in the world so it make absolute sense to put in the time and invest in being able to easily export to the EU. Then the UK leave, they now need you to fill in different paperwork to the EU and potentially change different amounts of VAT, this admin costs money, so you either increase the cost of your product to UK buyers to cover your additional admin, or you decide it isn't worth exporting to the UK.

Disney not currently delivering to the UK from their US site, so it's not just small businesses that are finding exporting to the UK unattractive at the moment.

Yes, I think this must be it. I bought a item from Russia last year and it didn’t incur any additional charges.
oakleaffy · 21/02/2021 07:15

I have bought from Ukraine pre Брексит and never incurred any charges.
BUT.....

Would be very wary now.

Buying from USA was always a ''No No'' for me because I loathed paying the ''Post Office handling fee.

Vat of £1.95, Post Office handling fee of about £8.75

So unless an item comes in at under the VAT threshold of £15 {It might be £18, not sure} I don't buy from USA.

AnitaB888 · 21/02/2021 07:23

@Mummyoflittledragon

"The government were too busy with rhetoric and propaganda to actually address the real issues... including Coronavirus."

You really believe Brexit caused Coronovirus !!!

I've heard it all now Grin

Rowenasemolina · 21/02/2021 07:23

@bubs765

1st world problem or what
Don’t be so pathetic. It is becoming virtually impossible to import, as these fees are unpredictable and uncheckable. So art traders are unable to trade. So are many other traders. My son, for example. A student who has built up a reputation for trading in sports equipment, and us funding himself through university with this. Now can’t pay his rent. This has been the only reliable student work for him and many other students. Now many can’t pay rent. And many international traders are writing off theUK

So students and others who can’t pay their rent, Evictions, homelessness, less trade, less investment, more unemployment.

How is this a trivial problem?

The OP is about importing art, either for personal or business reasons, not stated.

Yet because it’s ART, gets a snooty response.

So what if it’s art, a luxury item. The issue is, this individual cannot trade!

You have to be blind and stupid not to realise the wider implications

Doomsdayiscoming · 21/02/2021 07:24

@Thedogscollar

Do you genuinely believe anyone and I mean anyone gives a f**k?
Exactly.

Brexiteers care for no one beyond themselves.

Anycrispsleft · 21/02/2021 07:29

OP I was going to make a joke about buy some good British art, isn't English painting fancy enough for you etc but I see several posters have made the same point entirely free of irony so I'll not bother Grin

We live in Germany and buy a few British things online (British food, English books, kids' clothes) and virtually all the companies we bought from have stopped supplying to the EU, at least for now. Like everyone else in this situation, we'll find substitutes or order from other places, so when the customs issues are sorted out, we won't bother changing back.

GCAcademic · 21/02/2021 07:29

[quote AnitaB888]@Mummyoflittledragon

"The government were too busy with rhetoric and propaganda to actually address the real issues... including Coronavirus."

You really believe Brexit caused Coronovirus !!!

I've heard it all now Grin[/quote]
Er, that isn’t what she said at all.

She said that the government was too busy spouting rhetoric and propaganda to do their job, whether actually working on the Brexit issues or dealing with Covid.

Seems fair enough to me.

yearinyearout · 21/02/2021 07:30

I've got two perfectly reasonable items stuck in transit. Both paid for, one stuck at a depot in Germany on it's way back to the seller and the replacement stuck at a depot here. It's ridiculous.

AnitaB888 · 21/02/2021 07:31

"Brexiteers care for no one beyond themselves."

Poor hard done by Remoaners, beaten in a democratic referendum by those nasty Brexiteers.

Boo hoo.

Sad
Shrivelled · 21/02/2021 07:32

I’m not a Brexiteer but the thought that it’s going to encourage people to make and buy products locally within the U.K. is great.

itsgettingwierd · 21/02/2021 07:33

I was a remainer.

But I thought the whole point was to make us buy British?

Build our home economy? And I suspect those in EU countries have to also pay for us to send stuff?

I'm hoping it works in the end - but I won't be buying abroad with hexes because I couldn't afford it.

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/02/2021 07:38

[quote AnitaB888]@Mummyoflittledragon

"The government were too busy with rhetoric and propaganda to actually address the real issues... including Coronavirus."

You really believe Brexit caused Coronovirus !!!

I've heard it all now Grin[/quote]
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Um no.

St Boris didn’t bother to attend Sage meetings or even recognise
Coronavirus was an issue until seconds before the first lockdown. Until 31st January last year, we were still in a position to stay in the EU. He didn’t acknowledge let alone care there was a pandemic coming. Too busy organising parties and quaffing champers. And he still doesn’t care how much the double whammy of brexit and coronavirus is having on the population of this country. Now the anti EU fisheries propaganda has started when EU policy was well known : no live exports from outside the EU including shellfish. Deflect. Deflect. Deflect. That’s the material point.

DHdweller · 21/02/2021 07:39

😂😂😂😂

CuntyMcBollocks · 21/02/2021 07:40

I imagine that taxes for EVERYTHING will increase and not just because of Brexit. I think that is being made a scapegoat, although its is very likely partly to blame. Covid has decimated this country, and the government have forked out billions throughout the whole pandemic, and higher taxes are an unfortunately side effect of this. The country needs to get the economy back on track somehow, so I think it unfair to put the whole of the blame on Brexit and all of those who voted 'Leave'.

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 21/02/2021 07:40

Well, who would have thought that So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish would mean so much today!